If HBO pays the license fee that covers the figher purses, there is no financial risk for the promoter.
So basically all the promoter does is rent a venue (or a site fee), do public relations, and organize travel/lodging.
What are they actually doing that is that valuable?
If HBO turns down a fight, it seems like the promoter really has no ability to do anything to make the fight happen.
I wouldnt work for/with Haymon because #1 Im not a prostitute willing to rent out my promoters license, and #2 the fact that I retired 4 years before he ever did his first show would have made "working with him" a bit difficult.
I know you are no big thinker, but even you should be able to figure that one out........
Edit: and as for Nate, Im actually pretty proud of what I was able to accomplish on his behalf. After one of your Haymon lackey heroes (Dibella) threw Nate on the scrap heap after the 2nd Peden loss, I was able to move Nate to #1 not once (lost to Lorenzo), not twice (lost to Hlatshwayo), but 3 times, which resulted in the Diaz fight, Funeka, Bradley, Ortiz, etc, etc and 7 figures worth of money.
Yeah, I failed big time lol
These idiots don't know much about boxing.
They probably don't even know about Nate's career. They stated following boxing just recently.
I wouldnt work for/with Haymon because #1 Im not a prostitute willing to rent out my promoters license, and #2 the fact that I retired 4 years before he ever did his first show would have made "working with him" a bit difficult.
I know you are no big thinker, but even you should be able to figure that one out........you are giving that dummy too much credit.
OnePunch is jealous that he'll never get to work with Haymon. That's why he spends all day diminishing his accomplishments in the sport as well as PBC. That's too bad that you couldn't cut it out as a decent promoter, maybe if you had tried harder things would have worked out for the better. All you have to show for it is an ancient .net email address from 1999. :lol1:
Nate Campbell, doe.
I wouldnt work for/with Haymon because #1 Im not a prostitute willing to rent out my promoters license, and #2 the fact that I retired 4 years before he ever did his first show would have made "working with him" a bit difficult.
I know you are no big thinker, but even you should be able to figure that one out........
Edit: and as for Nate, Im actually pretty proud of what I was able to accomplish on his behalf. After one of your Haymon lackey heroes (Dibella) threw Nate on the scrap heap after the 2nd Peden loss, I was able to move Nate to #1 not once (lost to Lorenzo), not twice (lost to Hlatshwayo), but 3 times, which resulted in the Diaz fight, Funeka, Bradley, Ortiz, etc, etc and 7 figures worth of money.
Yeah, I failed big time lol
OnePunch is jealous that he'll never get to work with Haymon. That's why he spends all day diminishing his accomplishments in the sport as well as PBC. That's too bad that you couldn't cut it out as a decent promoter, maybe if you had tried harder things would have worked out for the better. All you have to show for it is an ancient .net email address from 1999. :lol1:
Nate Campbell, doe.
If you are Top Rank, you get $50k range for Solo Boxeo + any tiny international TV money.
Then ticket sales & sponsorship.
The Solo Boxeo shows can see from $80k to $100k in revenue on average.
Thanks again
Tickets and sponsors are really it. Some promoters sell slots to other promoters. I did that occasionally as a favor, but I didnt like doing it much because since they are paying for it they usually only want to put their guy in with a dummy, and alot of times those kinds of fights can stink up a show.
As for budget, I could usually get a club show done for anywhere between $35k-40k in my usual venue. If I had to book it elsewhere, add another $5-7k.
purses at that level usually represented somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the overall budget.
Sweet , Thanks man
Ahahahahaha! And NOBODY cares or cared about your crap events obviously.
You sit around crying while having made ZERO innivations in boxing in all those yearsSo retard, how many "innivations" in boxing have you made? maybe you should learn how to spell the word first dumbass.
It's a little pathetic that you spent TWELVE years of your life with nothing to show for it.
Will "OnePunch" be in the boxing history books for anything at all?
NOPE
He doesn't have to, the guy still obviously knows more than you. Also a PBC fanboy should not be criticizing anyone's business model they aren't exactly thriving.
It's a little pathetic that you spent TWELVE years of your life with nothing to show for it.
Will "OnePunch" be in the boxing history books for anything al all?
NOPE
thats where you are wrong. I have PLENTY to show for it. The experiences I had, the relationships I developed, everything I got over those years an idiot like you could never understand. Boxing gave me a helluva lot more than I gave it.
I already had money, so that wasnt the important part for me, and in the end I doubt I spent over $500k over the course of a decade, which as it turns out was worth every penny, and probably alot more. I wouldnt trade it for 10 times that.........
2 nobodies who never did anything in the sport sitting around taking shots at those who actually have. lol what a surprise.......
You must spread some reputation around before giving it to OnePunch again.
2 nobodies who never did anything in the sport sitting around taking shots at those who actually have. lol what a surprise.......
It's a little pathetic that you spent TWELVE years of your life with nothing to show for it.
Will "OnePunch" be in the boxing history books for anything at all?
NOPE
They give advances all the time.
Not to mention the money spend on actually promoting the fight. Generating interest in fighters, etc. Not just covering the fighters purse. There is a lot more that goes on but your 17 year old head obviously can't comprehend.
If it was so easy why don't you do it?
Advances does not = Salary you nitwit. They are garnered from future wages.
Top Rank spends ZERO promoting Solo Boxeo cards. You STILL haven't explained how Top Rank "loses millions"... stooooopid
Stop what?
Abusing this whiny two-bit former boxing promoter who moans incessantly about Haymon "over-investing" in boxing while at the same time crying about how "money losing" the prospect building game is?
Dude is pathetic
2 nobodies who never did anything in the sport sitting around taking shots at those who actually have. lol what a surprise.......
The KO % makes sense but The height thing is crazy never would have thought that.
Thanks
Thanks for the replies.
For the club shows, Are your only sources of revenue from ticket sales and whatever sponsorships you can get for the event?
And what was the avg budget of your club shows and usually what % is going towards the fighters purses.
Tickets and sponsors are really it. Some promoters sell slots to other promoters. I did that occasionally as a favor, but I didnt like doing it much because since they are paying for it they usually only want to put their guy in with a dummy, and alot of times those kinds of fights can stink up a show.
As for budget, I could usually get a club show done for anywhere between $35k-40k in my usual venue. If I had to book it elsewhere, add another $5-7k.
purses at that level usually represented somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the overall budget.
You're an idiot... Top Rank might give a fighter an advance but a monthly stipend ain't gonna happen.
A manager like Cameron Dunkin would take care of the monthly stipend, NOT Top Rank.
SMH at these rookie idiots.
They give advances all the time.
Not to mention the money spend on actually promoting the fight. Generating interest in fighters, etc. Not just covering the fighters purse. There is a lot more that goes on but your 17 year old head obviously can't comprehend.
If it was so easy why don't you do it?
Thanks for the replies.
For the club shows, Are your only sources of revenue from ticket sales and whatever sponsorships you can get for the event?
And what was the avg budget of your club shows and usually what % is going towards the fighters purses.
If you are Top Rank, you get $50k range for Solo Boxeo + any tiny international TV money.
Then ticket sales & sponsorship.
The Solo Boxeo shows can see from $80k to $100k in revenue on average.
I know he's pathetic, but you're gonna worsen his depression. :lol1:
He should get off this forum then.
Saying you were a boxing promoter for 12 years is like saying you were a shoe cobbler for 12 years.
It's pretty irrelevant and more a historical novelty than anything.
opponents want more money to fight a 10-0 9KO guy than they do a 10-0 guy with 3 KOs.
Also, sometimes even height can cost you more money. Its more expensive to match a 6 foot welterweight than it is a 5'7" welter......
The KO % makes sense but The height thing is crazy never would have thought that.
Yeah you have to offer what the market dictates and the network will approve.
The Solo Boxeo and Estrella TV series are break even shows... maybe make $5k or lose $5k.
Thanks
next to impossible to turn a profit on an off-tv show. 99% of club shows lose money. There are only a few reasons to do small club shows:
1. You enjoy it, and you have the money to spare
2. You have fighters you are trying to develop
3. You have other business interests you are promoting via the shows, like a law practice or dentist, or whatever......
4. You believe all the lies other promoters tell about how much money they make on club shows. (so then you do one, lose $10k or $20k, and are done lol)
Thanks for the replies.
For the club shows, Are your only sources of revenue from ticket sales and whatever sponsorships you can get for the event?
And what was the avg budget of your club shows and usually what % is going towards the fighters purses.
Stop what?
Abusing this whiny two-bit former boxing promoter who moans incessantly about Haymon "over-investing" in boxing while at the same time crying about how "money losing" the prospect building game is?
Dude is pathetic
I know he's pathetic, but you're gonna worsen his depression. :lol1:
:lol1: :lol1:
Bro stop.
Stop what?
Abusing this whiny two-bit former boxing promoter who moans incessantly about Haymon "over-investing" in boxing while at the same time crying about how "money losing" the prospect building game is?
Dude is pathetic