Are Andre Ward's ticket sales and (forced) inactivity the only critique to his career

Lol @ Ward a HBO fighter ducking Stevenson, a Showtime/Haymon fighter. That's funny they want to use the HBO/Showtime/Haymon angle only when it fits their agenda. DeGale is the only one there he has a case for. DeGale called out Ward twice in interviews after the Dirrell and leading up to the DeGale-Bute fight. I wouldn't say it was ducking, it was just similar to Garcia and Postol, where Garcia already did everything he could have done at 140 so he moved up to 147. Ward moved up and now he is signed to fight two tough fighters in Barrera and Kovalev. Though Ward vs DeGale can still happen at 175 one day, and it will be bigger if they keep winning, hopefully Ward beats Barrera and Kovalev this year, and then DeGale moves up and calls out Ward. I want to see DeGale get Jack and Abraham at 168 and then move up to fight Ward. It would be a big fight, Ward would take it obviously the guy has signed to fight Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Kovalev, Barrera, Bika, he is not afraid of anyone. i never said ducking, i said avoiding. and see my post above for proof. Stevenson became a showtime fighter in 2014, he tried to make the fight with Ward in 2013... good try though. Bute, was an HBO fighter during the super six but after the super six ended he tried to make Ward fight... Ward didn't want none of that... why is it so hard to accept. was a career high payday against the 2nd/3rd best SMW at that time. If Golovkin declined to fight the 2nd 3rd middleweight (for the biggest payday he ever had) you losers would crucify him. you can post your opinion as much as you want but i will own you with facts... with articles, with videos. If you can post proof (not opinion) to the contrary i will gladly take it, until then :wave:

avoided Dirrell?? Dirrell got hurt and pulled out the super 6 avoided Degale?? when? Stevenson?? lol when? Bute??? stop he didnt even want to get in the super 6 lol 1) for Dirrell he used the - "the networks don't want it" and "he is my friend" excuse. (2012) http://www.mlive.com/sports/flint/index.ssf/2012/04/andre_ward_has_little_interest.html 2) Degale has been saying Ward won't fight him, taunting Ward. Ward ever come back on that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf2ywA99PHU http://www.boxingscene.com/james-degale-andre-ward-not-going-fight-me--91432 3) Lucian Bute was never invited to the super six, he was left out on purpose and then after Ward won the tournament Ward didn't want to make the fight, making excuses. http://www.*************.com/columns/will-andre-ward-duck-lucian-bute/http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7372586/andre-ward-lucian-bute-bout-looks-unlikely-time-being 4)Stevenson and his team wanted to fight Ward... Ward said Stevenson didn't deserve to fight him. http://www.*************.com/headlines/andre-ward-is-offered-possibility-of-two-fight-deal-with-stevenson/ http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/11/andre-ward-says-stevenson-doesnt-deserve-to-fight-him Anyways I've literally just schooled you but you will come back with excuses so i don't know why i wasted my time.

I mean, those are literally the only two things that are brought up by Ward detractors. They don't seem to have any other content to attack him with. His ticket sales (which have nothing to do with his fighting ability) and his inactivity to which was forced upon him due to legal stuff. What other bad things can you really say about the man? He's had an illustrious career so far and it's only getting better. After he beats Kovalev he'll be #1 and at the top of the sport once again. Well, he has a terrible resume for one; honestly, who did he really beat? A bunch of euro bums? He's overrated.

I mean, those are literally the only two things that are brought up by Ward detractors. They don't seem to have any other content to attack him with. His ticket sales (which have nothing to do with his fighting ability) and his inactivity to which was forced upon him due to legal stuff. What other bad things can you really say about the man? He's had an illustrious career so far and it's only getting better. After he beats Kovalev he'll be #1 and at the top of the sport once again. He had a damn good argument for being the most unbeatable fighter in boxing after the Super 6. His tactics may not be pleasing to everyone, but he won against some very solid fighters and did it easily. Then nothing. More nothing. More nothing. More nothing. Then tune up. Then nothing...then tune up...then nothing...plus honestly, he sucks to watch fight IMO. I know some people dig it, but I just can't.

If Chad Dawson-level is what you call a relevant fight, well then Gennady Golovkin hasn't had one relevant fight in his entire career. Edwin Rodriguez was the #6 SMW when he fought Ward (http://www.tbrb.org/2013/11/17/12-november-2013/). Sullivan Barrera is the #7 LHW going into the Ward fight (http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12495428/division-division-rankings-light-heavyweight). Paul Smith is the only truly terrible fighter he fought, but even he was coming off back to back world title fights vs. Arthur Abraham. And let's be honest, is Paul Smith really that much worse than bums like Rubio, Monroe, and Wade? I think La Bomba was quite a respectable opponent who Ward deserves some credit for, and he's a big guy - certainly more of a LHW then he ever was a SMW, I also think Barrera looks promising, but Fat Dan's on the juice if he has Sullivan ranked at #7.

Not definitely better than Rigondeaux. A great craftsman of the sport in the mold of Hopkins, but Rigondeaux has all the same tools but power and greater athleticism and footwork. I wouldn't call his inactivity forced either. He has been free of his promotional disputes for how long? How many times have we seen him fight? Ward isn't inactive in the gym either. He stays training and sparring. He is ready, he is just waiting of his own will. Right, the amount of times Rigondeax was dropped compared to Ward Rigo is utterly boring as well

avoided Dirrell?? Dirrell got hurt and pulled out the super 6 avoided Degale?? when? Stevenson?? lol when? Bute??? stop he didnt even want to get in the super 6 Lol @ Ward a HBO fighter ducking Stevenson, a Showtime/Haymon fighter. That's funny they want to use the HBO/Showtime/Haymon angle only when it fits their agenda. DeGale is the only one there he has a case for. DeGale called out Ward twice in interviews after the Dirrell and leading up to the DeGale-Bute fight. I wouldn't say it was ducking, it was just similar to Garcia and Postol, where Garcia already did everything he could have done at 140 so he moved up to 147. Ward moved up and now he is signed to fight two tough fighters in Barrera and Kovalev. Though Ward vs DeGale can still happen at 175 one day, and it will be bigger if they keep winning, hopefully Ward beats Barrera and Kovalev this year, and then DeGale moves up and calls out Ward. I want to see DeGale get Jack and Abraham at 168 and then move up to fight Ward. It would be a big fight, Ward would take it obviously the guy has signed to fight Kessler, Froch, Abraham, Kovalev, Barrera, Bika, he is not afraid of anyone.

I mean, those are literally the only two things that are brought up by Ward detractors. They don't seem to have any other content to attack him with. His ticket sales (which have nothing to do with his fighting ability) and his inactivity to which was forced upon him due to legal stuff. What other bad things can you really say about the man? He's had an illustrious career so far and it's only getting better. After he beats Kovalev he'll be #1 and at the top of the sport once again. That's not true, his style is ugly which is why it does not generate crowds or attention. There are other critiques as well, one is called Paul Smith (9 rounds lol) and the other Rodriguez. Not to mention talk of weight (sshhh, it never happened). So, you know, there's more than just fighting once a millennium and/or being boring and ugly. But hey, if the Kovalev fight happens after 18 months worth of tune ups and if Ward wins, it's impressive no doubt.

So you watch sport to see a winner and not for entertainment? That seems weird to me. I think those who boxed at least, appreciate guys like Mayweather, Ward, Wlad because they find ways to win in dominating fashion with high skill level. If a fan who boxes, likes Mayweather and Ward because they find what they do very difficult and are in awe about it, then that's their preference. Just like people love blood and guts fights, and when they are not seeing that anymore, they want to watch UFC for their blood and KO fix. It's okay to like boxing for different reasons, whether you never sparred/boxed before and are just here to watch two guys trade punches and KD's, or you have sparred/boxed before and watch boxing maybe to learn or to watch how the highly skilled pros win fights, both are okay. What is not okay is when fans separate styles as sort of religion, like when a fan is not interested in fire fights, basically ISIS comes out of nowhere asking why you don't believe in our god/style. It's like a religion, I don't care about fire fights, but I don't tell anyone they suck for watching boxing because of that. I expect fans to also respect I watch boxing to see highly skilled fighters, but hey they don't respect that for the most part, but like I said it's like a religion.

Personally i dont dislike him but i dont like him either. The following he can be criticized form 1) Poor ticket sales 2) somewhat forced, and some what not forced inactivity... you can't deny that the inactivity was partially his own doing 3) Avoiding certain fights for one reason or another (Bute, Dirrell, Degale, Stevenson) 4) spoiler style - while very good fighter he has a somewhat boring style and at times fouls a lot. that's my take on it. avoided Dirrell?? Dirrell got hurt and pulled out the super 6 avoided Degale?? when? Stevenson?? lol when? Bute??? stop he didnt even want to get in the super 6

What???? He avoided Direll....cuda sworn he pulled put of the super 6 BUTE??? Lmao

We know why Ward is hated. Hate Floyd = hate skilled defensively responsible boxers = hate Ward Every time a fighter gets criticized by the usual suspects ask yourself... How does he relate to Floyd. You will find your answers. That.... and probably cuz he beat their previous favorite fighters.

I must have missed that fight. When was it? He agreed to fight him later this year....save that BS for guys like Kell Brook who pulls ouy of.fights left and right

Personally i dont dislike him but i dont like him either. The following he can be criticized form 1) Poor ticket sales 2) somewhat forced, and some what not forced inactivity... you can't deny that the inactivity was partially his own doing 3) Avoiding certain fights for one reason or another (Bute, Dirrell, Degale, Stevenson) 4) spoiler style - while very good fighter he has a somewhat boring style and at times fouls a lot. that's my take on it.

We know why Ward is hated. Hate Floyd = hate skilled defensively responsible boxers = hate Ward Every time a fighter gets criticized by the usual suspects ask yourself... How does he relate to Floyd. You will find your answers.

Ward didnt have to move up.and agree to fight Sergey....but he did I must have missed that fight. When was it?

Ward didnt have to move up.and agree to fight Sergey....but he did That fight hasn't happened yet. I'll prop Ward on fight night.

Ward didnt have to move up.and agree to fight Sergey....but he did

Smfh.....these dudes on here have mental problems I get he has a ugly style imo....but bringing up ticket sales?? And business decisions??? Then saying he ducked people? I guess he ducked that.Miranda rematch.too lol Yea Ward hasnt ducked anyone and to say so is down right reaching....

ducked Bute???lol Smfh.....these dudes on here have mental problems I get he has a ugly style imo....but bringing up ticket sales?? And business decisions??? Then saying he ducked people? I guess he ducked that.Miranda rematch.too lol