Is Tyson Fury a better fighter than Wladimir Klitschko?

Mayweather's not better than Pacquiao now that he beat him. They're just on an even playing field. :lol1: I'm going to start using that a lot. It's awesome. Pacquiao is actually a better fighter than Mayweather, because he beat Hatton and Cotto in more impressive fashion.

How are they on an even playing field right now when Fury just nearly won every round in their fight? :lol1: That makes zero sense. Mayweather's not better than Pacquiao now that he beat him. They're just on an even playing field. :lol1: I'm going to start using that a lot. It's awesome.

The question is "Is Tyson Fury a better fighter than Wladimir"? There is no time frame being put into it. Don't be stupid. You know he isn't. Your posts just get worse by the day. Don't call me stupid because you haven't caught up on grammar lately. "third person singular present of be." - Check it out on your own time. I'm right. Anyways, I'd be hard pressed to say someone who just lost 11-1 or close to it in my book is better than his conqueror. Well there were like 12 punches thrown in the fight. It's not like Fury walked Wlad down and outclassed him. He just threw 8 instead of 4. So in your own words he was double as good as Wladimir. Thanks for clearing that up.

How are they on an even playing field right now when Fury just nearly won every round in their fight? :lol1: That makes zero sense. Well there were like 12 punches thrown in the fight. It's not like Fury walked Wlad down and outclassed him. He just threw 8 instead of 4.

It definitely does not. 'is' implies current. As in: "who is the best fighter (right now)? You should have worded it differently if you wanted everyone to jump on the klitschko bandwagon. Wlad has proven credentials. Yes. His career is more successful than Fury's right now. But who is the better fighter? Fury obviously since he just took Wlad to school. That wasn't the question, hence totally irrelevant to this conversation. The question is "Is Tyson Fury a better fighter than Wladimir"? There is no time frame being put into it. Don't be stupid. You know he isn't. Your posts just get worse by the day.

If Fury's is smart, he'll go out and do exactly what he did in the first couple of rounds of the first fight. Make Wlad remember. After that, the fight is won. Yep like the Marquez effect on Pacquiao. Wlad will need to be more aggressive to change the pattern.

Sigged :beerchug: Alright, good luck mate

Ill tell you guys what Wladimir's best quality is in terms of this match up and in general in a historical sense. He carries the knockout power to take out any heavyweight in history in my opinion, or at least the power to turn the fight in his direction at any stage. To me that is one of his best qualities, it makes him dangerous and a problem for any heavyweight in history, including Fury. But for me Fury is just a bad style match up for him at any stage of his career you would see him struggle like he did in their first fight. Lets see how the rematch goes. If Fury's is smart, he'll go out and do exactly what he did in the first couple of rounds of the first fight. Make Wlad remember. After that, the fight is won.

Ill tell you guys what Wladimir's best quality is in terms of this match up and in general in a historical sense. He carries the knockout power to take out any heavyweight in history in my opinion, or at least the power to turn the fight in his direction at any stage. To me that is one of his best qualities, it makes him dangerous and a problem for any heavyweight in history, including Fury. But for me Fury is just a bad style match up for him at any stage of his career you would see him struggle like he did in their first fight. Lets see how the rematch goes.

Yes, he proved it in the ring against Klitschko head to head.

Of course size mattered a great deal. Mariusz Wach is a complete stiff idiot. It's stupid to even compare him to Fury. I hate when people (Klitschko fans) bring up Wach. He is C class on a good day, and he still wobbled Wlad at one stage. He is not a good fighter, and there is a thread on here where all the Klitschko fans were insinuating that Wach was actually better than Fury thus it would be an easy fight. You have to laugh at this ****.

Done - Let's do it. Double up if KO either way? Sigged :beerchug:

100 Quad? ..... Done - Let's do it. Double up if KO either way?

Sure thing. Evens - I take Fury, you take Klitschko. How much? 100 Quad? .....

Care for a solid bet with me on the rematch? Sure thing. Evens - I take Fury, you take Klitschko. How much?

Ok but if you meant incl. career and prime vs prime or Klitschko in his prime vs Fury now, then I think that's what you should have wrote. I think plenty of people agree Klitschko was taken to school. He landed 1 or 2 blows the entire night and was cut up and beat up over 12 rounds. What we know is right now Fury is a much better fighter than Klitschko, since their fight wasn't even close or debatable in the slightest. I'm not sure I said those words, but I definitely don't believe Klitschko is in his prime. He showed signs of slowing down in the past couple of years. But he was still better than anyone else, and I still don't think anyone other than Fury beats him right now. He's definitely not shot as some people have been saying. Care for a solid bet with me on the rematch?

It doesn't necessarily mean current, that's you interpretation. And nobody seriously thinks 'Fury took Vlad to school', that's silly. I think you described it yourself prior to the fight that Fury was catching him at the right time, which is exactly what happened. Ok but if you meant incl. career and prime vs prime or Klitschko in his prime vs Fury now, then I think that's what you should have wrote. I think plenty of people agree Klitschko was taken to school. He landed 1 or 2 blows the entire night and was cut up and beat up over 12 rounds. What we know is right now Fury is a much better fighter than Klitschko, since their fight wasn't even close or debatable in the slightest. I'm not sure I said those words, but I definitely don't believe Klitschko is in his prime. He showed signs of slowing down in the past couple of years. But he was still better than anyone else, and I still don't think anyone other than Fury beats him right now. He's definitely not shot as some people have been saying.

It definitely does not. 'is' implies current. As in: "who is the best fighter (right now)? You should have worded it differently if you wanted everyone to jump on the klitschko bandwagon. Wlad has proven credentials. Yes. His career is more successful than Fury's right now. But who is the better fighter? Fury obviously since he just took Wlad to school. It doesn't necessarily mean current, that's you interpretation. And nobody seriously thinks 'Fury took Vlad to school', that's silly. I think you described it yourself prior to the fight that Fury was catching him at the right time, which is exactly what happened.

I think Wladimir's style is harder to beat. He will basically never lose to a smaller fighter unless he was dynamic like Mike Tyson, or skilled and strong like Evander. Those are the only types of smaller guys that could have beaten him, elite guys. But when you put him in with a fighter his own size then you see what time it is. I see that he can't deal with it, and Fury is only a good fighter, he is not a great one to me. He has good ability, ok puncher, pretty good speed. People who are blaming the loss on Wladimir being shot are deluded and haven't followed his career very closely or they have and are fan boys. I can assure everyone that he is not shot, over the hill maybe, but definitely not shot, I think he loses to Fury last year, the year before, and 5 years before that. He can't deal with a guy that can touch him and make him miss. He is an upright fighter who has no defence for incoming fire apart from to move his feet or clinch, thing is he can't wear a fighter like Fury down with his clinching and he couldn't reach him without putting himself in Fury's punching range which made him extremely uncomfortable because he doesn't trust his chin in the pocket. It's a shame because now people can blame it on age and that excuse is there but really the guy never fought anyone his own size with good ability until Fury. Having said that I think Wladimir is the better fighter between the two basically because he would do better and beat more styles. Fury won't clinch and nullify like Wlad, and will exchange and fight so I think he will lose some fights at championship level. Wladimir is better technically and has better fundamentals. I totally agree.

PRime vs prime it's not even close, Klitschko is better than Fury in every possible way. Every way, period. Right now though? They're on a pretty even playing field. Wlad looks horrible. How are they on an even playing field right now when Fury just nearly won every round in their fight? :lol1: That makes zero sense.