Anthony Joshua vs Charles Martin

I've watched all the fights I could dig up on Martin, I've also watched Joshua's last 5 fights and a couple others. I can't really make a call on this but I can make a case for both fighters winning. Martin has went the distance a few times and has a good % of ko's in the later rounds, I haven't seen him lose many rounds in any of the fights I've seen and he looks sharp in the later rounds, doesn't appear to tire at any point in his fights. He seems to work on reflexes and counter punch, he just reads guys well and tries to throw sharp and accurate punches with both hands. I think Martin is a bigger, slower David Haye in style at distance but that is where the similarity ends. Joshua has rushed out and pummelled guys and hasn't really sharpened any boxing skills or learned to pace himself like Martin has. His sheer size and power have been enough to get the job done very much like Wilder in most of his fights. After landing a stiff jab he just closes in and opens up, most of the guys haven't been good enough or big enough to cope with this and have been finished early. Joshua has very plodding footwork and no head or lateral movement, he doesn't box on his toes like Martin or Klitschko either or hasn't shown it as of yet, his reflexes and timing are not as good as a result, he doesn't look as sharp. I think if Martin can use his size and lateral movement as a defence, and time Joshua whenever he is in distance, he can outbox him in the early rounds and take Joshua into deep water. I believe him when he said he gets stronger as I've seen him still looking good or better in the later rounds. If it goes past 6 I think Martin will Ko him in the later rounds. If Joshua catches him and backs Martin up into the corner or the ropes then we know what will happen, Joshua will let go and could finish him, Martin needs to survive these exchanges and counter to stop Joshua trying this, preferably not get caught or hurt to begin with. Joshua's best chance is to finish him early because he won't beat Martin with the jab or relying on boxing from distance. I heard David Haye saying that he was told from trusted sources that Martin doesn't lose rounds in sparring, I don't think Joshua will outbox him and win rounds from what I've seen. I'm going to go for Martin by Ko around round 9.....But I'll hold my hands up if joshua does manage to Ko him early. It's his only chance and 1 punch could turn it around at any tiime Love your predictions son......your Gonna lose big money against me ....scoured ur posts and I see you picked Martin to beat Joshua lol....wise words save your money ur gonna lose it

I can't wait!!!!! Martin will beat AJ. Mark my words!!!! WAR MARTIN!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang: Yeah sure he will bongo lol.....better to be silent in future as Martin got starched in 2 rounds

Martin didn't beat the count, end of story.

Using Latin for no reason and being condescending to me by asking if I just started watching boxing doesn't change the fact that what I said was correct. Joshua did not "smash" Martin. He flash knocked him down twice and the ref called the ten count too early. Watch golovkin vs Monroe Jr to see a ref give a fighter a proper chance when the fighter gets up at ten. It leaves no doubt. The ref of Joshua vs Martin has left doubt because he called the fight too early. He should have told Martin he barely beat the count and don't do it again. His 10 count lasted over 12 seconds. Martin refused to make eye contact with the ref as he got up, galcing down to the right. They were not flash knockdowns, Martin was down on the canvas with his limbs all over the place. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2016/04/09/anthony-joshua-vs-charles-martin-world-heavyweight-title-fight-l/

He knocked him down with every connection to his chin. He flopped to the floor like a bag of spuds. As for the count. Martin refused to look the ref in the eye after a count. The ref needs to see in the eyes to see if he is compus mentus (mind my latin spelling). Even if you get up on 6, if you don't make eye contact with the ref they wave it off. Did you start watching this sport last week? Using Latin for no reason and being condescending to me by asking if I just started watching boxing doesn't change the fact that what I said was correct. Joshua did not "smash" Martin. He flash knocked him down twice and the ref called the ten count too early. Watch golovkin vs Monroe Jr to see a ref give a fighter a proper chance when the fighter gets up at ten. It leaves no doubt. The ref of Joshua vs Martin has left doubt because he called the fight too early. He should have told Martin he barely beat the count and don't do it again.

You were joking right? Fury is ****e, but is stylistically matched with Wlad very well. Joshua would smash both Fury and Wlad on the same night. Wilder is a threat to AJ, with Parker and Ortiz also in the mix. He wrote 50+ posts saying Martin was miles better than Joshua. The ones comparing him to Mayweather were my favourites. When I resurrected that thread he deleted it the spoil sport.

What's all this talk from Eddie Hearn about 50/50 split????????? for the Fury vs Joshua fight. Eddie, stay off the drug's mate. Tyson Fury gets at least 60% of the purse when it comes to ££££$$$$$$. 50/50 LOL Fury would struggle to fill his pants let alone a stadium. Joshua brings all the money. By the time they fight Fury will probably only in possession of the WBO title. You know how boxing is.

What's all this talk from Eddie Hearn about 50/50 split????????? for the Fury vs Joshua fight. Eddie, stay off the drug's mate. Tyson Fury gets at least 60% of the purse when it comes to ££££$$$$$$. 50/50 LOL

Joshua has no change, martin is levels above, martin will brutalize him You were joking right? Fury is ****e, but is stylistically matched with Wlad very well. Joshua would smash both Fury and Wlad on the same night. Wilder is a threat to AJ, with Parker and Ortiz also in the mix.

I wouldn't say Joshua smashed him. He flash knocked him down twice and the ref called the ten count too early. The ref counted to 10. Martin didn't start getting up until the count was at 9 and a half, he knew what he was doing. Guys are getting good at quitting and doing it in a way that lets them blame someone else.

I wouldn't say Joshua smashed him. He flash knocked him down twice and the ref called the ten count too early. He knocked him down with every connection to his chin. He flopped to the floor like a bag of spuds. As for the count. Martin refused to look the ref in the eye after a count. The ref needs to see in the eyes to see if he is compus mentus (mind my latin spelling). Even if you get up on 6, if you don't make eye contact with the ref they wave it off. Did you start watching this sport last week?

If anyone wants a good laugh read pages one to 7. Everyone saying it would be a 50/50 fight or a Martin KO. Now AJ has smashed him with ease without Martin laying a glove on him. The next person will smash him because he is stiff with no head movement and over rated power. I wouldn't say Joshua smashed him. He flash knocked him down twice and the ref called the ten count too early.

If anyone wants a good laugh read pages one to 7. Everyone saying it would be a 50/50 fight or a Martin KO. Now AJ has smashed him with ease without Martin laying a glove on him. The next person will smash him because he is stiff with no head movement and over rated power.

Martin sux. We need to see Joshua against someone solid, who can punch. Why not Chisora - Pulev winner?

Martin will win via KO

Martin is one of the worst world champions I have ever had the misfortune to watch. Fury will clown Joshua and win every round.

If they are a step up from Martin is debatable and they are minimum risk. I have two big problems with Hearn making these type fights. He wants Joshua on ppv and Joshua is now IBF champ. Sink or swim time now that he has the IBF belt. The safe fight days are over or atleast should be Martin is very poor. All those fighters are better.

Called it, Martin was a step down from Whyte. I still dont think Joshua is great though, big and strong and clearly has power but is very stiff. He's probably the best of a bad bunch. I could see him doing something very similar to Wilder if they fought (another hype job). But he needs to stay away from Haye - someone with power and speed like Haye is all wrong for him. Joshua is better than wilder. Wilder has a very poor skill set. Not saying Wilder can't KO Joshua, he can bang.

Called it, Martin was a step down from Whyte. I still dont think Joshua is great though, big and strong and clearly has power but is very stiff. He's probably the best of a bad bunch. I could see him doing something very similar to Wilder if they fought (another hype job). But he needs to stay away from Haye - someone with power and speed like Haye is all wrong for him. Haye takes Joshua... For now! But the fight won't happen for now, so Joshua will keep building.

Called it, Martin was a step down from Whyte. I still dont think Joshua is great though, big and strong and clearly has power but is very stiff. He's probably the best of a bad bunch. I could see him doing something very similar to Wilder if they fought (another hype job). But he needs to stay away from Haye - someone with power and speed like Haye is all wrong for him.