What mystique did a espn fighter who can't punch, who got a razor thin decision against ruslan have?
Algeiri had no buisness in the ring with pacquiao.
Especially not after 1 fight on hbo and barely winning it. The actual fight proved that.
and nobody picked rios to beat manny. Nobody. That's not hindsight. We saw that the minute the fight was announced. Especially after rios just got outboxed by alvarado. Now he was gon beat Pacquiao in his first fight at 147?
I disagree with you bro
I'm not going to waste a lot of time trying to get you to remember it differently but I think you're playing 20/20 hindsight. It's not about how we look at it now, it's about how people saw it then. There was a LOT of doubt on Manny and he was not expected to be the same fighter he was before the KO.
I think he is just outside of the Top 10, maybe 10-15 Range
Beat Postol and Broner and unify 140 and he is Top 5 EASILY!
Totally agree sicko. Dude hasn't earned the Pac fight yet. It is just because he is a Top Rank fighter. Pac should n't be even in his vocabulary right now. Let him beat Provodnikov , and Postol. Garcia would be good too. Plus Peterson fights everyone around that weight Let him earn it.
I was just about to post the same thing. You really can't have position vacant on a list. It just means the guy you put as number 2 is number 1.
Somebody has to claim that spot.
Kovalev vs Ward or canelo vs golovkin will determine my number 1 spot.
Whichever fight happens first
While I agree with your point, your reasoning is flawed, IMO. Pac had just suffered a brutal KO and many wondered if his career was over. You can't look at it with 20/20 hindsight and pretend it wasn't a legit matchup at the time.
The Algeri fight was less compelling but, at the time, Chris had a mystique around him and Pac still had a lot of questions surrounding him. It wasn't horribly underserved.
But, I wholeheartedly agree that Pac/Crawford is a fantastic fight though and Crawford has done enough to earn it. I even think Crawford takes it, though I'd be rooting for Manny. I want Crawford and Postol to marinate as it both these guys are huge talents and should be built up before they meet.
What mystique did a espn fighter who can't punch, who got a razor thin decision against ruslan have?
Algeiri had no buisness in the ring with pacquiao.
Especially not after 1 fight on hbo and barely winning it. The actual fight proved that.
and nobody picked rios to beat manny. Nobody. That's not hindsight. We saw that the minute the fight was announced. Especially after rios just got outboxed by alvarado. Now he was gon beat Pacquiao in his first fight at 147?
I disagree with you bro
1st place is taken they don't leave these places vacant so in otherwords your number 1 is Kovalev, just say it and don't beat about the bush just because Floyd retired.
I was just about to post the same thing. You really can't have position vacant on a list. It just means the guy you put as number 2 is number 1.
What did algeiri do to earn a pacquiao fight? Win a debatable decision against ruslan?
What did rios do to earn a pacquiao fight? Lose to alvarado?
So save that earn a shot bs.
Crawford vs pacquiao is a better and bigger fight than crawford vs postol.
that's a fact
While I agree with your point, your reasoning is flawed, IMO. Pac had just suffered a brutal KO and many wondered if his career was over. You can't look at it with 20/20 hindsight and pretend it wasn't a legit matchup at the time.
The Algeri fight was less compelling but, at the time, Chris had a mystique around him and Pac still had a lot of questions surrounding him. It wasn't horribly underserved.
But, I wholeheartedly agree that Pac/Crawford is a fantastic fight though and Crawford has done enough to earn it. I even think Crawford takes it, though I'd be rooting for Manny. I want Crawford and Postol to marinate as it both these guys are huge talents and should be built up before they meet.
Maybe he needs to earn that fight. His best win was Gamboa who is a featherweight . He beat glorified sparring partner Dierry Jena and Ricky Burns . Give me a break. Dude can fight Postol, provodnikov and Broner as well as Peterson to prove he could be on Pac, Floyd etc level. He reminds me of a small Holyfield , he is there to get hit that is for sure. He is a good combo puncher with some saize and power, but like everyone else said Bluebeam, he has fought guys smaller than him. He is probably a welterweight who is squeezing down to jr welter. Right now it isn't really hurting him because he has fought small guys and weaker comp. Lets see him in with a couple of top guys at 140 first.
What did algeiri do to earn a pacquiao fight? Win a debatable decision against ruslan?
What did rios do to earn a pacquiao fight? Lose to alvarado?
So save that earn a shot bs.
Crawford vs pacquiao is a better and bigger fight than crawford vs postol.
that's a fact
1st place is taken they don't leave these places vacant so in otherwords your number 1 is Kovalev, just say it and don't beat about the bush just because Floyd retired.
I left it vacant because nobody is worthy of outright being called the best fighter in the world at this moment.
Ward vs Kovalev winner is my p4p number 1.
Gonzalez beats Estrada again he could be.
Golovkin destroys canelo he could be
Canelo beats golovkin he could be.
Whichever happens first
How highly do you think of TC ? Will he one day become the p4p king?
I think he is the best fighter in the world, right now. He has a lot to prove to be recognized as such, but I think the kid beats anyone from 135-147.
Big no. He hasn't beaten a guy his own size except Dierry Jean.
He beat the cuban who was a blown up featherweight and one other guy who was marginal. Let him beat Postol, Broner, and /or Provodnikov. Actually i would like to see him fight Peterson too. He is not top 10 p4p yet but in top 15 maybe. This calling out Pacquaio is rdiculous.
Agree 100%. Beating up on smaller guys doesn't make you top 10 P4P.