ESPN First Take debaters talk Mayweather/Pacquiao/Golovkin

I've not deleted any posts so don't know where you going there. If I said beating a past prime SSM, and dlh would make you an atg most people would assume I should be in an asdylum. Why don't you assume that as well? Sure, show us a link to the post then.

GGG could've said, "I beat Canelo and everybody saw that I went through that diva demand at 155. I wanted to fight Floyd at 154 because he was going to retire and I wanted to fight the #1 p4p boxer in the world as I've always had respect for Floyd Mayweather Jr. That opportunity never happened so I fight Canelo for lineal you know this is boxing, juss, 154-168 is easy for me jusss this is is boxing you know." -GGG That's funny :lol1:

Stephen A smith says: Floyd Struggles to make 147? Starts @ 5:30 [ So why does he need IV treatment again? I'm lost?:Flush:

Stephen A smith- ' Pac deserves a rematch' Off course he does Stephen. Stephen A Smith. The ultimate Flowmo tribute video. An example of fanboyism to the next level lol An example of an epitome of a delusional fanboy Starts @ 1:10

You're confused dear lad. So you're saying Canelo is naturally heavier and tease another hulk that he can fight at 155 and the other can't? Someone had already mentioned that team GGG didn't even receive an offer from Canelo promotions so therefore ''155'' is just press and industry talk. Meaning Canelo was staying at his comfort zone and had no interest to fight GGG, only to offer another star to come up... Khan is the only logical money maker during Q1 to gain financial revenue for the huge lawsuit from Canelo's previous promoters. You're sounding like a casual fan to even compare GGG's PPV worth to Floyd. lol Yeah, Ward was denifitely interested in GGG's worth the same way every boxer wants to fight Floyd, correct? dude gtfoh. in the trunk you go! You are calling me confused! Try and shut down your stream of conciousness for a second and read my post again. Where did I compare Golovkin's PPV worth to Floyd's? What I'm saying is that Golovkin and Ward would both cut weight for Floyd for the same reasons - he's much smaller than they are and brings big money to the table.

And the fact that Skip thinks Floyd can beat GGG but not Pacquiao, is just as crazy. If anything GGG is a much more dangerous fight, than ANY version of Pacquiao.

I hate how they always get the female commentator, that pretends or acts to know the sport. Carrie Champion was as WORSE as they come, she defended Mike Tyson, known rapist and women beater, and in the same sentence bashed Floyd for it. The women on that show are there to be a face, NOTHING ELSE.

Floyd can barely make 147? I never realized that Floyd is a great comedian.

Maybe after that he can move up to 175 and fight kovalev too? Would you like that? No, I only want Floyd to do what's comparable to what his peers did, like Duran or rjj in recent memory. So Floyd has got something substantial to boast about opponent wise. At the moment its boasting about beating one arm pac coming off loss to jmm.

Floyd knows me. I'm a fan of his, he knows that. I want to see the matchup it would be very interesting to see someone take GGG 12 rounds.....Floyd is the man to do that. I want Floyd to reach his latent potential. If he can last 12 rounds it would be criminal not to show that to the world Maybe after that he can move up to 175 and fight kovalev too? Would you like that?

The only fighter they talk about is floyd lol.

if GGG truly believes he could beat Floyd at 154, then why not steal the lineal from Canelo at 155? Isn't that common sense as the perception that Canelo is inferior to Floyd? Is Canelo not worth the money? Therefore, GGG wouldn't be able to beat Floyd, just wants the exposure and $$$ from listening to Abel and Loeffler. Oh wait a minute, its Abel and Loeffler always talking on GGGs behalf. What weight did Floyd fight De La Hoya? What year was that? What weight did Floyd fight Cotto? personally I don't care about theories of what fighters would rehydrate to on fight night. I mean sure it's interesting, but I prefer circumstances from previous p4p examples. If the fighter is CAPABLE of making the weight, even when A sides is supposedly the diva, more power to them. Nothing more than the politics of the catch. People criticized the Pac vs Cotto or Margo fights and gave Pac those weight division wins as bonafide... Do I agree with the 155 catch for the Middleweight bout against GGG? No. Makes Nelo a super diva. Do I agree with the 155 against Khan. Yes. Actually it would help Khan. I foresee Khan getting KTFO. However, I do have a problem when another star in the same division saying for the past 3 years that 154-168 is easy and doesn't take prize fighting seriously when supposedly you're the high favorite to beat whoever. So GGG can't or won't lose 5 pounds for Canelo but 6 pounds for Floyd? gtfoh. The basically translation is like picking on the smaller man and taking more money. No different than Bhop had wanted Floyd at 160. GGG should've stolen the Lineal already, meaning agreed to 155. Will the mandatory finalization be at 155 upcoming? Nobody knows. Let's see who agrees to what when that time comes. If it's 160, Canelo will have everybody on check. If it's 158 or 159 will people still complain about those two differential pounds pre limit? Forget all that guff you are spouting there. Floyd weighs about 150/155 on fight night, Canelo weighs about 175 and Golovkin weighs about 170. If those stats themselves don't tell you why GGG would go to 154 for Floyd but not 155 for Canelo, then there really is no point me trying to explain it to you. It's the same reason why Ward would have gone to 160 for Floyd but wouldn't do 164 for Golovkin.

You got caught because a couple posters sigged it before you deleted it. Man you have no credibility. You hate Floyd, you are desperate to see him lose, he's beaten everyone you said he needed to, know you latch on to GGG because Floyd retired undefeated. Should he beat GGG, you'll do your usual. GTFOH! Floyd knows me. I'm a fan of his, he knows that. I want to see the matchup it would be very interesting to see someone take GGG 12 rounds.....Floyd is the man to do that. I want Floyd to reach his latent potential. If he can last 12 rounds it would be criminal not to show that to the world

I've not deleted any posts so don't know where you going there. If I said beating a past prime SSM, and dlh would make you an atg most people would assume I should be in an asdylum. Why don't you assume that as well? You got caught because a couple posters sigged it before you deleted it. Man you have no credibility. You hate Floyd, you are desperate to see him lose, he's beaten everyone you said he needed to, know you latch on to GGG because Floyd retired undefeated. Should he beat GGG, you'll do your usual. GTFOH!

you deleted the post well before Pac beat any of them so stop lying. You posted it because you hate Floyd and stupidly assumed he wouldn't fight them. Then when he did and beat them, you switched up. You have no credibility whatsoever. You desperately want Floyd to lose and you get so caught up you allow yourself to act irrationally, like a pre pubescent girl. Floyd did what you asked. Now be a man and do what you posted you would. I've not deleted any posts so don't know where you going there. If I said beating a past prime SSM, and dlh would make you an atg most people would assume I should be in an asdylum. Why don't you assume that as well?

Well I get it wrong. I thought beating SSM, hatton and dlh would be quite good, but then PAC does it even better. So the goalposts have moved I'm afraid, you got a problem with that have you? Hindsight is very beneficial and sSM, has done cuddly squat since his loss to Floyd, dlh lost to BH and hatton, same thing with him. He didn't even look good before Floyd got to him. Floyd knows he has to show people how to deal with straight no special effect fighters like ggg. Just last 12 rounds with him. 49-1 is better than 49-0. A decision loss to GGG is better than anyone has done sdo far you deleted the post well before Pac beat any of them so stop lying. You posted it because you hate Floyd and stupidly assumed he wouldn't fight them. Then when he did and beat them, you switched up. You have no credibility whatsoever. You desperately want Floyd to lose and you get so caught up you allow yourself to act irrationally, like a pre pubescent girl. Floyd did what you asked. Now be a man and do what you posted you would.

This from someone that posted what Floyd needed to do to become an ATG then deleted the post and changed up when he beat who you said he needed to. How about you let Floyd do the same thing you do yourself. Well I get it wrong. I thought beating SSM, hatton and dlh would be quite good, but then PAC does it even better. So the goalposts have moved I'm afraid, you got a problem with that have you? Hindsight is very beneficial and sSM, has done cuddly squat since his loss to Floyd, dlh lost to BH and hatton, same thing with him. He didn't even look good before Floyd got to him. Floyd knows he has to show people how to deal with straight no special effect fighters like ggg. Just last 12 rounds with him. 49-1 is better than 49-0 he will have improverd his resume. A decision loss to GGG is better than anyone has done sdo far

Khan will be bigger and stronger at 155 than he usually is. https://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif

that's not gonna happen... Cotto got SO MUCH SHIT for fighting geale at a catchweight than Canelo gets for fighting khan at mw. The hypocrisy is off the charts. Khan will be bigger and stronger at 155 than he usually is. Geale was drained at 157 and looked like a zombie version of his usual self. Cotto and Roach knew that Geale had to work very hard to make 160 and would be fucked at 157. That's why they picked him.

if GGG truly believes he could beat Floyd at 154, then why not steal the lineal from Canelo at 155? Isn't that common sense as the perception that Canelo is inferior to Floyd? Is Canelo not worth the money? Therefore, GGG wouldn't be able to beat Floyd, just wants the exposure and $$$ from listening to Abel and Loeffler. Oh wait a minute, its Abel and Loeffler always talking on GGGs behalf. True, true... I'm surprised people keep asking this question when the answer is so obvious - Floyd is a natural WW and would enter the ring at around 150lbs, Canelo is a natural MW and would weigh around 175 on fight night.