In his recent statement about the match between Scott & Frampton on 27th feb, he was well on the side of the man from whom he looses two times in the past. Here is the story & what do you think about this?
http://combatsportsnews.tumblr.com/post/139531646478/kiko-martinez-backs-frampton-to-knockout-quigg-on
Anybody been paying much attention to the buildup? Seems to me Quigg has the mental edge. Also I reckon he's tougher, more fierce, though Frampton's tough too, just not as. Quigg is more thick-headed in general, the insults just bounce off his big skull, Frampton's the more intelligent, and admits to being the sensitive type as a child. He's been more easily riled by the back and forth and it could cost him, I see him channelling some of that rage though and catching Quigg on the way in, round 11. Would love to see a definitive finish, Quigg flat on his back!
Fantastic post mate, pretty much covered it to a tee.
My whole thing here is to go by what I've seen and not let the hype cloud my judgment. What I've seen points in the direction of Frampton by wide UD or even stoppage.
The Kiko knockout has got many a little over estimating Quigg IMO.
Just looking at the Kiko fights, I saw Quigg look troubled before landing a perfect shot, which Kiko got up from, and finishing the job. I saw Frampton box circles around Kiko in one fight and one punch stop him in the other.
Frampton has been on the end of flash knockdowns at world level in which he wasn't remotely buzzed, Quigg has been on his back at domestic level...the idea that he's got the better chin is flawed.
Quigg's only chance is through his size. Frampton is more skilled, faster, more intelligent, more varied and can win in a multitude of ways.
Thanks - yeah Quigg is bigger and longer and that makes it dangerous for Frampton. Quigg actually carries power on his long shots as well as short compact shots, and he has some timing.
Frampton will have to be clever and cut the distance in a smart cautious way and avoid jumping in too much, whilst also staying concentrated on the outside. The fight does present danger for Frampton, but if you consider the possible scenarios as you said Frampton can win a few different ways so the odds have to be with him.
You don't want to see the guy who whipped your bum the worst get whipped himself. That means you got another guy who by the magic of association you are his b*tch.
Kiko just thinks Quigg got lucky against him and that he made a mistake of his own. Quigg however recently said that he basically set up a trap for Kiko earlier than he originally planned to, just to see how he would react, and he fell for it straight away which, if true, means that Quigg's boxing ability and gameplanning may be underrated going into this fight. He may have shown signs of improvement in the Kiko fight which he could carry through to the Frampton fight.
What do you predict? I have gotten really interested in this fight.
I started reading into the hype recently with a lot of people jumping on the Quigg bandwagon. The general pro Quigg theme is that Frampton is chinny and Quigg has devastating power, and if you watch Quigg-Kiko and some of the other fights where Quigg looks impressive ie. Monroe 2, then you can see why people have this opinion. He has genuine KO power, and can also grind you down to the body and when he gains momentum it is hard to slow him down...BUT
I didn't just watch those fights, last night I watched Arthur, Salinas, and some other earlier fights and that was pretty revealing and put me very much back in the path of Frampton by stoppage, which was actually my instinctive reaction when the fight was made.
Quigg has been down against non-punchers and he actually got steadied by a jab from Salinas in the first round, his legs wobbled, its not massively noticeable but I saw it. The whole fight Jim Watt is imploring Quigg to get his workrate up and start attacking Salinas, and you can see that Salinas is there for the taking, I think the reason he doesn't is because of that jab in the first round and his general ability to take a punch. I actually think Quigg is the chinny one, and Frampton hits very hard, he might not be as concussive as Quigg but he has KO power himself.
My conclusion is that whilst Quigg is dangerous as long as he's there, after what I saw last night Quigg won't be able to take the stick. Neither guy has an airtight defence especially at this kind of level, I just found last night quite alarming and even though both have vulnerable whiskers I think Quigg getting dropped at domestic level multiple times is a warning sign. I think its a bold prediction, my logic tells me that Frampton will stop him within 5 rounds.
Fantastic post mate, pretty much covered it to a tee.
My whole thing here is to go by what I've seen and not let the hype cloud my judgment. What I've seen points in the direction of Frampton by wide UD or even stoppage.
The Kiko knockout has got many a little over estimating Quigg IMO.
Just looking at the Kiko fights, I saw Quigg look troubled before landing a perfect shot, which Kiko got up from, and finishing the job. I saw Frampton box circles around Kiko in one fight and one punch stop him in the other.
Frampton has been on the end of flash knockdowns at world level in which he wasn't remotely buzzed, Quigg has been on his back at domestic level...the idea that he's got the better chin is flawed.
Quigg's only chance is through his size. Frampton is more skilled, faster, more intelligent, more varied and can win in a multitude of ways.
Well, he lost to Frampton both by KO and by being comprehensively outboxed. He saw more of him.
In the first round with Quigg, he made him look extremely uncomfortable and a little lost. He then came out and walked into a great shot but his best round against either guy was round 1 vs Quigg.
I agree Kiko looked like he was on the way to a victory in the first round.
I think if Quigg didn't land that great shot it would have been a tough night for him but who knows.
Yep, KO'd him first time and outboxed him comfortably (119-109 for me) second time.
What do you predict? I have gotten really interested in this fight.
I started reading into the hype recently with a lot of people jumping on the Quigg bandwagon. The general pro Quigg theme is that Frampton is chinny and Quigg has devastating power, and if you watch Quigg-Kiko and some of the other fights where Quigg looks impressive ie. Monroe 2, then you can see why people have this opinion. He has genuine KO power, and can also grind you down to the body and when he gains momentum it is hard to slow him down...BUT
I didn't just watch those fights, last night I watched Arthur, Salinas, and some other earlier fights and that was pretty revealing and put me very much back in the path of Frampton by stoppage, which was actually my instinctive reaction when the fight was made.
Quigg has been down against non-punchers and he actually got steadied by a jab from Salinas in the first round, his legs wobbled, its not massively noticeable but I saw it. The whole fight Jim Watt is imploring Quigg to get his workrate up and start attacking Salinas, and you can see that Salinas is there for the taking, I think the reason he doesn't is because of that jab in the first round and his general ability to take a punch. I actually think Quigg is the chinny one, and Frampton hits very hard, he might not be as concussive as Quigg but he has KO power himself.
My conclusion is that whilst Quigg is dangerous as long as he's there, after what I saw last night Quigg won't be able to take the stick. Neither guy has an airtight defence especially at this kind of level, I just found last night quite alarming and even though both have vulnerable whiskers I think Quigg getting dropped at domestic level multiple times is a warning sign. I think its a bold prediction, my logic tells me that Frampton will stop him within 5 rounds.
Well, he lost to Frampton both by KO and by being comprehensively outboxed. He saw more of him.
In the first round with Quigg, he made him look extremely uncomfortable and a little lost. He then came out and walked into a great shot but his best round against either guy was round 1 vs Quigg.
Second Frampton fight was a decision wasn't it?
Well, he lost to Frampton both by KO and by being comprehensively outboxed. He saw more of him.
In the first round with Quigg, he made him look extremely uncomfortable and a little lost. He then came out and walked into a great shot but his best round against either guy was round 1 vs Quigg.
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