He should be banned from this site.......I don't think I have ever seen a quote from him that is not racially driven.....and it's not like I never had hagler 2nd and Whitaker 3rd so I give credit.....but he's a bad person and full of resentment.......I will always give a fighter credit no matter what race as I was a fighter first and a white man second......but I think he's going on ignore in future because I cannot be dealing with people with seperate agendas......I do not know how you can downplay what manny pacquaio has done over all those weight classes and still remained at the top....pacquaio started his career at 106lbs and Whitaker started his 134.....and managed to win a jnr middlweight title which Whitaker didn't but he still started as a lightweight and a 28lb head start .....ridiculous to down play what the great manny pacquaio has achieved
Stop lying. Whitaker beat Julio Cesar Vasquez for a jr middleweight title with no catchweight. That's far more impressive than Pacquiao beating Margarito who did absolutely nothing above 147. There goes your "I always give fighters credit" claim.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Again.
He should be banned from this site.......I don't think I have ever seen a quote from him that is not racially driven.....and it's not like I never had hagler 2nd and Whitaker 3rd so I give credit.....but he's a bad person and full of resentment.......I will always give a fighter credit no matter what race as I was a fighter first and a white man second......but I think he's going on ignore in future because I cannot be dealing with people with seperate agendas......I do not know how you can downplay what manny pacquaio has done over all those weight classes and still remained at the top....pacquaio started his career at 106lbs and Whitaker started his 134.....and managed to win a jnr middlweight title which Whitaker didn't but he still started as a lightweight and a 28lb head start .....ridiculous to down play what the great manny pacquaio has achieved
Stop lying. Whitaker beat Julio Cesar Vasquez for a jr middleweight title with no catchweight. That's far more impressive than Pacquiao beating Margarito who did absolutely nothing above 147. There goes your "I always give fighters "credit" claim.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Do you know much about Lew Tendler IDH? I was watching the Leonard-Tendler 1 the other day and that guy could fight
Of course.
Lew Tendler was a tough cagey southpaw with power. Hard to judge that era because of so many Newspaper Decisions, plus the competition in general as hard to judge. But by all accounts Tendler earned his way to title shots at both Lightweight and Welterweight against Leonard and Walker by beating top guys at the time.
Many felt he did enough to beat Leonard the first time, hurting him in the process. I believe there's footage of that fight.
He lost clearly though to Walker and in the return.
Good fighter for sure but not on the levels of the Pacquaio's and Whitaker's of the world.
Tiger Flowers is another good southpaw.
I wouldn't say so.
Then again the list candidates is quite limited.
He's obviously no where near the upper echelons of southpaws across boxing history.
Do you know much about Lew Tendler IDH? I was watching the Leonard-Tendler 1 the other day and that guy could fight
Does Michael Moorer deserve a mention?
I wouldn't say so.
Then again the list candidates is quite limited.
He's obviously no where near the upper echelons of southpaws across boxing history.
Echo'ing what most have said but for me it's Whitaker or Pacquaio. I lean on Whitaker but both are legends. Would have been an epic fight had they ever fought.
I'll give an honourable mention to Saldivar who I don't believe has been mentioned yet.
If Im the cancer youre the AIDS of this site...d!ckrider...I said nothing to discredit him...just pointed out that after he moved past 130 he fought several guys after bad losses....am i lying...since Im not STFU
Come on man,no need for cancer or aids to be brought up in a thread about boxing!Please keep to the topic.
I had to go to boxrec to get some numbers for these men.
Tiger Flowers 115-14-6 beat Greb for the title and a return bout!
Young Corbett 3 122-12-22
Flash Elorde 89-27-2 beat Champ Sandy Sadler in 10rds. Fought him in 15 for the title and was stopped in 13 on cuts while ahead on all cards!
Pete Whitaker 40-4-1 Olympic Gold Medalists, beat Chavez got a draw BS!
greatest defensive fighter.
Marvelous Marvin Hagler undisputed Middleweight Champ.
Ray
bob foster that left jab will cut u up boy
ask ali
Bob Foster was strictly an orthodox fighter, with a deadly left hand.
Pernell Whitaker deserves the top spot here, slightly edging Hagler.
whats the point of fighting in a lot of weight classes when you dont always fight the best in the divison....also you must be smoking that good ish if you think going from 106 kid to 147 is ground breaking
Oh look a thread about ATG southpaws what an opportunity to derail a thread.
Go suck on a shotgun.
Guys like Real Pugilist are the cancer of this site, can't have a civil discussion without some idiot coming in and trying to discredit certain fighters due to their own insecurities.
And to answer TS question, I have it a tie between Hagler and Manny. Hard for me to chose one over the other. If I was forced to pick I would probably rank Manny first then Hagler.
He should be banned from this site.......I don't think I have ever seen a quote from him that is not racially driven.....and it's not like I never had hagler 2nd and Whitaker 3rd so I give credit.....but he's a bad person and full of resentment.......I will always give a fighter credit no matter what race as I was a fighter first and a white man second......but I think he's going on ignore in future because I cannot be dealing with people with seperate agendas......I do not know how you can downplay what manny pacquaio has done over all those weight classes and still remained at the top....pacquaio started his career at 106lbs and Whitaker started his 134.....and managed to win a jnr middlweight title which Whitaker did but he still started as a lightweight and a 28lb head start .....ridiculous to down play what the great manny pacquaio has achieved
If Im the cancer youre the AIDS of this site...d!ckrider...I said nothing to discredit him...just pointed out that after he moved past 130 he fought several guys after bad losses....am i lying...since Im not STFU
Yes you're lying.
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