Was the Bradley-Rios card the beginning of the end for HBO?

Nah. You're just way too basic to make a weak argument that HBO making a WhOPPING $500k off Golovkin-Lemieux is a reason they are the premier network in boxing. LOL :) You're weak and dumb. EZ work And there you go, you just keep helping me out. Making anything on a low risk Ppv is just gravy, way better than spending 3m for sub Fnf ratings. That's a major loss dumbsh1t. I'm guessing you got nothing better?

Powerful stuff alt. Gotta be honest, you ran out of arguments way bac when,, surprised took you this long to resort to this kind of surrender. Nah. You're just way too basic to make a weak argument that HBO making a WhOPPING $500k off Golovkin-Lemieux is a reason they are the premier network in boxing. LOL :) You're weak and dumb. EZ work

Are you a girl? Facts and numbers tend to count to guys. If you're a girl...I understand that you think more emotionally. Powerful stuff alt. Gotta be honest, you ran out of arguments way bac when,, surprised took you this long to resort to this kind of surrender.

Doesn't matter. Point is, the only time boxing pays for itself is on Ppv, sh1t for brains. Or on premium cable subscriptions by dedicated fans, where HBO probably still comes out ahead unlike their B side rivals Showtime Are you a girl? Facts and numbers tend to count to guys. If you're a girl...I understand that you think more emotionally.

What percentage does HBO make from PPV sales? Doesn't matter. Point is, the only time boxing pays for itself is on Ppv, sh1t for brains. Or on premium cable subscriptions by dedicated fans, where HBO probably still comes out ahead unlike their B side rivals Showtime

Not me, hence "fortunate". Lol retard. The only way boxing is profitable in the US is for major Ppv, and only HBO knows how to make that happen. What percentage does HBO make from PPV sales?

Who says boxing is profitable for HBO? Not me, hence "fortunate". Lol retard. The only way boxing is profitable in the US is for major Ppv, and only HBO knows how to make that happen.

Boxing is fortunate to have the backing of Hbo, dumbsh1t, cause otherwise its a money loser, in the US at least Who says boxing is profitable for HBO?

Fortunate? Who is fortunate? Boxing is fortunate to have the backing of Hbo, dumbsh1t, cause otherwise its a money loser, in the US at least

Lol OK alt. So now your excuse is you're too stupid/ill informed? That'll get you far. Yeah guess what, even declining sports may have premium outlets though not all are that fortunate. Fortunate? Who is fortunate?

What's an alt? That's the second time I've been called that by paranoids lol. I'd hardly call such a clear drop in viewership ans mismatches galore the "premier" outlet for anything. Lol OK alt. So now your excuse is you're too stupid/ill informed? That'll get you far. Yeah guess what, even declining sports may have premium outlets though not all are that fortunate.

I'm not frustrated enough to make an alt and 3 threads a day hoping for downfall of boxing premier outlet lol. Here have a look, numbers went all time low when Haymon had a free reign at HBO: http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-nielsen-media-television-ratings-and-the-pulse-of-us-boxing Now they're doing similar numbers but spending less, while Showtime is really suffering while spending way more. What's an alt? That's the second time I've been called that by paranoids lol. I'd hardly call such a clear drop in viewership ans mismatches galore the "premier" outlet for anything.

I found the number. It's less than 900k. You sound frustrated, are you frustrated? LOL I'm not frustrated enough to make an alt and 3 threads a day hoping for downfall of boxing premier outlet lol. Here have a look, numbers went all time low when Haymon had a free reign at HBO: http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-nielsen-media-television-ratings-and-the-pulse-of-us-boxing Now they're doing similar numbers but spending less, while Showtime is really suffering while spending way more.

HBO and Boxing IN GENERAL is so out of touch it is kinda embarrassing as a Boxing Fan. You see what UFC is doing and how they Promote and is very active on Social Media and then you have boxing in which Promoters are still using Terrestrial Radio Commercials as a Marketing Tool :lol1: That is now how you reach the Masses Boxing, hey boxing you know those little devices that everybody look down at ALL DAY. Ok now figure out a way to market to them, once you figure out how to do that then ratings will go up. Doesn't have Sh1t to do with fighters style, Race or any of that stuff I just think the sport of boxing is out of touch and outdated in the US and it has fallen behind the UFC. While the UFC built up New Stars and they get Jon Jones back soon which will really help them leaving boxing in the Dust :nonono:

When was the last time an American promoter had a big card on a Saturday afternoon in America? There's a reason for that. I just don't think Americans want to watch a fight during the day. I would bet the first part of the PBC experiment to go will be the daytime shows. Or they will be stripped down to FS1 level prospect events. Who cares.... nobody.

What numbers did GGG-Murray do? (Update: 862,000 average) Seriously? You are trying to say an 862,000 average is good? LOL What did Wlad-Fury do? (Update: 1.038M for the heavyweights on HBO is considered a great "upswing"?). When was the last time an American promoter had a big card on a Saturday afternoon in America? There's a reason for that. I just don't think Americans want to watch a fight during the day. I would bet the first part of the PBC experiment to go will be the daytime shows. Or they will be stripped down to FS1 level prospect events.

You can look them up easy. You'll find that afternoon GGG Murray did almost 3x as 2 best US MWs on prime time cable. Again dude, its sad there's a waning interest in boxing all around. So what, now you're sticking it to us boxing fans? You an Mma troll? I found the number. It's less than 900k. You sound frustrated, are you frustrated? LOL

What numbers did GGG-Murray do? What did Wlad-Fury do? I'm curious as to what you consider as "great" viewership because the numbers in 2009 that HBO CEO Bill Nelson was complaining about still seem HIGHER than what HBO has averaged in the past 18 months. You can look them up easy. You'll find that afternoon GGG Murray did almost 3x as 2 best US MWs on prime time cable. Again dude, its sad there's a waning interest in boxing all around. So what, now you're sticking it to us boxing fans? You an Mma troll?

First you had GGG Murray doing best ever overseas afternoon numbers. Then Wlad Jennings best ratings since 2012, then Canelo Kirkland smashing that. Then later Wlad Fury smashing Ggg Murray record. So I guess they haven't lost as much momentum as the rest. It's cause HBO is the home of boxing What numbers did GGG-Murray do? (Update: 862,000 average) Seriously? You are trying to say an 862,000 average is good? LOL What did Wlad-Fury do? (Update: 1.038M for the heavyweights on HBO is considered a great "upswing"?) I'm curious as to what you consider as "great" viewership because the numbers in 2009 that HBO CEO Bill Nelson was complaining about still seem HIGHER than what HBO has averaged in the past 18 months.

What upswing? I know Kirkland-Canelo took place a week AFTER May-Pac. What are these "upswing" events you refer to? First you had GGG Murray doing best ever overseas afternoon numbers. Then Wlad Jennings best ratings since 2012, then Canelo Kirkland smashing that. Then later Wlad Fury smashing Ggg Murray record. So I guess they haven't lost as much momentum as the rest. It's cause HBO is the home of boxing