Manny Pacquaio vs Juan Manuel Marquez 3 Appreciation thread: Did JMM get robbed?

Well sh.t, do Martinez vs Williams 1 then! That's had enough time to marinate and that was razor thin posted it..there is a thread....that was an awesome choice....thanks man...gonna shot you out in the thread

Gotta say I'm loving these threads. It'd be nice if some losers didn't try to ruin em. comes with the territory on NSB....Non-Stop B!tching just posted Martinez vs williams....check it out

Gotta say I'm loving these threads. It'd be nice if some losers didn't try to ruin em.

you're more of an idiot if you think pac-jmm3 is more of a robbery than floyd-castillo 1 :lol1: it was watched both fights live and scored them numerous times.....ive scored the fight in castillos favor and floyds...its a toss..I never scored pAC-jmm 3 in Manny's favor....scored it a draw giving manny the close rounds....we can agree to disagree...i dont take anyone serious who comments on fights but dont have any analysis.....hollatcha later :usa2:

That was the first one I did genius and all the idiots claiming JLC was robbed didnt even bother to score the fight and just trolled fight was no robbery couldve gone either way, if you think it was a robbery you need to learn how to score fights you're more of an idiot if you think pac-jmm3 is more of a robbery than floyd-castillo 1 :lol1:

Well sh.t, do Martinez vs Williams 1 then! That's had enough time to marinate and that was razor thin great idea...and it was a fight of the year calibre fight...definitely will be doing that fight and havent watched it since it was live on HBO

Thats a good shout...looking for fights that have kinda marinated in our heads...that Lara fight may be next, I watched it, but didnt score it....looked like a draw but I'll have to sit down and score it one day Well sh.t, do Martinez vs Williams 1 then! That's had enough time to marinate and that was razor thin

Good stuff Pugilist. You should do Canelo-Trout or Lara next. Thats a good shout...looking for fights that have kinda marinated in our heads...that Lara fight may be next, I watched it, but didnt score it....looked like a draw but I'll have to sit down and score it one day

Good stuff Pugilist. You should do Canelo-Trout or Lara next.

well usually if you score a fight one way its very hard to score it a different way upon second viewing so having 2 scorecards is kinda pointless. you yourself said there were 5 even rounds so someone else might think differently then you and give even rouns to pac and thats why it's not a clear win for either guy. definition of a close fight. floyd-pac was much more decisive in pac's favor than this fight. he was the one landing the much cleaner punches in the close rounds in that fight while floyd's were grazing/not clean. pac marquez was more even with both guys landing cleanly. blah blah blah...im not reading all of that...anybody with a brain knows their were rounds that depended on the viewer how they were scored Marquez won in my opinion...case closed...we can agree to disagree....Floyd clearly beat Manny, Marquez did, as did Morales it just opinion, no need to get all emo about scorecards fights are scored round by round and I gave my reasoning for who got the rounds...i only scored two rounds even....even when I didnt Marquez won

kinda was the point of the thread to compare scorecards....not bicker I cant see manny winning this fight, each round I gave to each fighter is explained Sorry man, Im not one of those posters who rides with one fighter or the other, I just score the fights. I dont gain anything or add to the forum being biased I respect your opinion :boxing: well usually if you score a fight one way its very hard to score it a different way upon second viewing so having 2 scorecards is kinda pointless. you yourself said there were 5 even rounds so someone else might think differently then you and give even rouns to pac and thats why it's not a clear win for either guy. definition of a close fight. floyd-pac was much more decisive in pac's favor than this fight. he was the one landing the much cleaner punches in the close rounds in that fight while floyd's were grazing/not clean. pac marquez was more even with both guys landing cleanly.

marquez won on both your scorecards? i'm shocked! pac won on 3 of my scorecards so i guess he really really won! kinda was the point of the thread to compare scorecards....not bicker I cant see manny winning this fight, each round I gave to each fighter is explained Sorry man, Im not one of those posters who rides with one fighter or the other, I just score the fights. I dont gain anything or add to the forum being biased I respect your opinion :boxing:

if you go through the thread I scored each round seperately and gave the reasons why there were rounds that were not clearly won but the fight was clearly won...Marquez won by a noticeable margin..me pointing out that there were several close rounds doesnt change the fact that win scores were tallied, Marquez won on both my scorecards the fight is 12 rounds....there were rounds close enough that one would have trouble scoring unless they WATCHED CLOSELY No matter how you slice it, dice it, try to remix my words....There were close rounds....Marquez clearly won....DEAL WITH IT Look at the other posts...i dont think I saw anyone score it for Manny at all marquez won on both your scorecards? i'm shocked! pac won on 3 of my scorecards so i guess he really really won!

"there were 5 even/swing rounds" "marquez clearly won" these 2 statements don't go together yet you just made them. if you go through the thread I scored each round seperately and gave the reasons why there were rounds that were not clearly won but the fight was clearly won...Marquez won by a noticeable margin..me pointing out that there were several close rounds doesnt change the fact that win scores were tallied, Marquez won on both my scorecards the fight is 12 rounds....there were rounds close enough that one would have trouble scoring unless they WATCHED CLOSELY No matter how you slice it, dice it, try to remix my words....There were close rounds....Marquez clearly won....DEAL WITH IT Look at the other posts...i dont think I saw anyone score it for Manny at all

there were only 2 rounds I scored 10-10 Marquez clearly won....there were 4-5 close rounds but it depends on who scores them how they will go....JMM won his rounds on clean punching and ring generalship, Manny was busier and landed in clusters the final talley was 117-113.....i gave manny the close rounds he still would have lost by 2 points I had a second scorecard and Marquez won by 2 points He lost this fight, he thought he lost this fight, and so did roach who was reminding him he was falling behind as early as round 7-8 it was a good fight but in no way did Manny win this fight "there were 5 even/swing rounds" "marquez clearly won" these 2 statements don't go together yet you just made them.

you scored 2 even rounds. if you give them to manny it would have been a draw so how is that clearly winning? clearly winning is kovalev vs hopkins. he won in your mind ok thats fine but it obviously wasn't that clear if you are scoring even roudns. there were only 2 rounds I scored 10-10 Marquez clearly won....there were 4-5 close rounds but it depends on who scores them how they will go....JMM won his rounds on clean punching and ring generalship, Manny was busier and landed in clusters the final talley was 117-113.....i gave manny the close rounds he still would have lost by 2 points I had a second scorecard and Marquez won by 2 points He lost this fight, he thought he lost this fight, and so did roach who was reminding him he was falling behind as early as round 7-8 it was a good fight but in no way did Manny win this fight

i had it 8-4 or at a push 7-5 to Marquez no way pacquiao won, he was controlled and countered all night, think it was first time Pacquiao tried to box with Marquez and didnt go too well imho. Everytime i score it i can never give Pacquiao more than 5 rounds and I thought Marquez ring generalship showed that night. about the way I saw it....scoring it live I had it 7-5.....this time it was a little wider....the competitiveness of 4-5 rounds could really swing the scores though

rounds 11 JMM and 12 go to Pac..he was busier and winning most of the exchanges effective aggression final score card 117-113 some rounds were very close....if I give manny the close rounds I scored 10-10 He still wouldve have lost by 2 points....there are 4-5 rounds that can arguably be scored even Manny came on late in the fight and JMM kinda started to cruise. He let manny back in the fight It wasnt a robbery in my book but I think Juan Manuel Marquez clearly won you scored 2 even rounds. if you give them to manny it would have been a draw so how is that clearly winning? clearly winning is kovalev vs hopkins. he won in your mind ok thats fine but it obviously wasn't that clear if you are scoring even roudns.

ROUND 10 too damn close.....even 98-94 jmm rounds 11 JMM and 12 go to Pac..he was busier and winning most of the exchanges effective aggression final score card 117-113 some rounds were very close....if I give manny the close rounds I scored 10-10 He still wouldve have lost by 2 points....there are 4-5 rounds that can arguably be scored even Manny came on late in the fight and JMM kinda started to cruise. He let manny back in the fight It wasnt a robbery in my book but I think Juan Manuel Marquez clearly won I also had a second scorecard where I gave the even rounds to a definitive winner and the score was 116-114 Marquez Manny Pacquaio didnt win this fight...because of the close rounds, depending on how it was scored the closest it could be is a draw but even that is reaching

pac clearly won the last 2 unless you go insane and somehow give any of them to marquez so you are going to have a 116-114 scorecard and claim robbery lol. i had a guy winning by 2 points in a fight with a ton of close rounds robbery!