If Floyd Had Lost To Manny On May 2nd Of Last Year...

That's your only criteria on resume? I asked you only about resume to begin with, nothing else. Body of work is also resume + titles. Pacquiao surpasses him in that regard but if you think he doesn't outside of the undefeated aspect (Marciano was undefeated at HW but is not superior to Ali for example) what else about Mayweathers resume is superior? You have failed to answer that question on 4 attempts. Has he not defeated the most world champions in history? (23.) Did he not do so despite winning titles in three less weight classes? Did he not defeat most of the very same foes that Manny has? What impressive opponent(s) has Pacquiao beaten that Mayweather hasn't that makes Manny's resume so much more impressive?

I just told you, you dense ****: -One loss (the hypothetical one to Manny) versus five -Didn't take as many hits throughout his career -Is arguably a "better" offensive fighter than even Pac is if you watched "Pretty Boy" Floyd in his prime -Beat more world champions -Never knocked down -Completely outclassed the guy that knocked Pac out cold (and yes, I know Pac beat Marquez two or three times already before that, but still.) :dance::dance::dance: That's your only criteria on resume? I asked you only about resume to begin with, nothing else. Body of work is also resume + titles. Pacquiao surpasses him in that regard but if you think he doesn't outside of the undefeated aspect (Marciano was undefeated at HW but is not superior to Ali for example) what else about Mayweathers resume is superior? You have failed to answer that question on 4 attempts.

We'll go at it one step at a time, since you're slow. How is Mayweather's resume better than Pacquiaos? And are you saying the resume supports my argument? You've just argued against yourself :blackeye: I just told you, you dense ****: -One loss (the hypothetical one to Manny) versus five -Didn't take as many hits throughout his career -Is arguably a "better" offensive fighter than even Pac is if you watched "Pretty Boy" Floyd in his prime -Beat more world champions -Never knocked down -Completely outclassed the guy that knocked Pac out cold (and yes, I know Pac beat Marquez two or three times already before that, but still.) :dance::dance::dance:

I haven't "gone off on a tangent." I mentioned "resume and overall body of work" in my original post. That includes to me all of the things that you just quoted. Can't ignore them just 'cause they don't support your argument. We'll go at it one step at a time, since you're slow. How is Mayweather's resume better than Pacquiaos? And are you saying the resume supports my argument? You've just argued against yourself :blackeye:

Wait, you have gone off on a tangent, realising your initial post was an absolute joke. Let's stick to resume, how is Mayweather's resume better than Pacquiaos? Keep everything else out of the way for now, that's not what this discussion is. I haven't "gone off on a tangent." I mentioned "resume and overall body of work" in my original post. That includes to me all of the things that you just quoted. Can't ignore them just 'cause they don't support your argument.

If manny was the fighter certain people hyped him up to be then he'd be close to Floyd's but I think Floyd has always had a more impressive resume and end result for a career. But Manny screwed up by listening to Arum. I don't know what the past 4 years was for his career but it went way down hill. My personal opinion is that it had a lot to do with everything after Cotto. Manny physically changed and it just didn't look like the guy who was running circles around Oscar just a a few years before. Alex Ariza is now an important figure in boxing as far as Manny's legacy is concerned.

...Would it have been accurate to say he was still the best P4P boxer of this era due to the fact that his overall resume and body of work would have still been better/more impressive than Manny's? According to the judges' scorecards...the red corner won on all three cards.

...Would it have been accurate to say he was still the best P4P boxer of this era due to the fact that his overall resume and body of work would have still been better/more impressive than Manny's? It's 2016 mayweather won.

This is a bait thread because pa even with his loss to Floyd is p4p the best of this era. PAC beat asll common opponents more impressively than Floyd apart from jmm, his kryptonite. We know with Floyd he always tries to get advantages and avoids his bogeyman. So however you look at it PAC is greater People tend to forget Mayweather doesn't have a single prime great on the level of Barrera on his resume or a slightly past it Morales or even beating the best available versions of JMM twice (people forget that Pacquiao was robbed in the first fight when a judge couldn't count to 10 lol). You know **** is getting bad when OP describes Floyd has a better offensive fighter than Pacquiao. SMH. :poke:

-One loss (the hypothetical one to Manny) versus five -Didn't take as many hits throughout his career -Is arguably a "better" offensive fighter than even Pac is if you watched "Pretty Boy" Floyd in his prime -Beat more world champions -Never knocked down -Completely outclassed the guy that knocked Pac out cold (and yes, I know Pac beat Marquez two or three times already before that, but still.) Wait, you have gone off on a tangent, realising your initial post was an absolute joke. Let's stick to resume, how is Mayweather's resume better than Pacquiaos? Keep everything else out of the way for now, that's not what this discussion is.

ehhhh be hard to argue that, they both had solid as can be careers just different names on their resume. its hard to say, one thing i know for sure had pacquaio won he definately would ahve been called the fighter of this era over mayweather. but if we being honest they both had solid careers and if you want to nitpick at it and dig deeper you can write off xyz victories on both side and downplay them etc that bout was the very deciding factor for alot of people . And understandably so. Mayweather had a hell of a run from the time he came back from retirement, in my mind putting him ahead of Pacquiao before they fought. But if Pacquiao had won that fight, what win of Mayweather's would even come close to that? He'd have beaten the consensus #1 P4P fighter, that's not just some feather in your cap kind of accomplishment. In my opinion the fight settled who should be rated higher, even if it wasn't quite as significant a fight as it could have been in ~2010.

Then Manny would say he dreamed a night ago he would be victorious, and then probably you guys would make a deity out of him. Infact Floyd did good for Manny fans by beating him.

oh wait red corner won may 2nd fight was that floyd's corner? so what do you mean "if" ? gang bang in 3 2 1....

It would've been hard to. Either rightly or wrongly, that fight was for all the marbles. People try to downplay it now, probably because it didn't go the way they wanted, but it was a very significant fight.

manny's got a better resume. he's a much smaller fighter. won a world title at 112 lbs, FFS, and had a hall of fame career before he left 130. floyd's a better fighter. he'd beat manny at any weight. he's also significantly bigger. 1-3 weight classes for much of their careers.

-One loss (the hypothetical one to Manny) versus five -Didn't take as many hits throughout his career -Is arguably a "better" offensive fighter than even Pac is if you watched "Pretty Boy" Floyd in his prime -Beat more world champions -Never knocked down -Completely outclassed the guy that knocked Pac out cold (and yes, I know Pac beat Marquez two or three times already before that, but still.) oh boy. somebody got his card pulled :D

Nah. Their careers were too close before that, that fight was the decider. Plus, if Pacquaio was the first and only guy to beat Mayweather it would have been an astronomical feat to add to an already amazing career. So the answers no.

This is a bait thread because pa even with his loss to Floyd is p4p the best of this era. PAC beat asll common opponents more impressively than Floyd apart from jmm, his kryptonite. We know with Floyd he always tries to get advantages and avoids his bogeyman. So however you look at it PAC is greater

In slow motion Floyd still didn't lose. PAC knocked himself out against Marquez in the 4th fight. Some Filipinos committed suicide after PAC lost to Floyd. I am glad Rath & Spoon didn't take themselves out. Floyd & Juan are the least popular names in the Philippines. I am sure there are a million Manny, & lots of Mohammed's in Mindanao. Manny is more exciting, Floyd is the better boxer by far.

never gonna happen. if it does some people will die of "natural causes" or would just disappear all together.