In reading the latest with Barrera I'm starting to lose patience with Ward. Its time he gets in the ring with a decent opponent if he really intends on fighting Kovalev. If no Barrera who should he fight ?
He should fight a young light heavyweight who is rated by most as being in or near the top 10 in the world. Barrera would be good. He is a little old but he is undefeated and many alphabet groups rate him in their top ten. If not Barrera then another boxer who is just as good and highly rated..
too bad ggg didn't man up and fight Ward
Nobody likes Ward, and those that genuinely do are in a very select group. Most of the people (we all know who they are) who like to give the impression that they like him nowadays only like him in the sense that he's convenient stick to beat Golovkin with.
many may not like him but damn few dispute his talent
4 years of watching him turn down good fights and try to fight bums. the longest benefit of the doubt in the history of benefit of doubts
so ggg is a bum?
It seems to me like Ward wants to play at boxing. Do pretty much nothing for ages, occasionally fight against a complete no hoper and hope to talk his way into a big money fight. He reminds me of David Haye but with a lot more talent -- which makes it all the more disappointing really. Barrera is an ok 'ish' opponent - he's no world beater or anything but he can box a bit and bang a bit -- but I'm guessing ward wants a complete no hoper/punching bag instead while getting the same money.
I don't think Fonfara beats Ward, but if he did Ward would be fucked in career terms. He's made himself very vulnerable with his inactivity. A lot of people are just looking for a reason to dismiss him as irrelevant.
That's a great idea. Fonfara makes an excellent opponent for any light heavyweight, but he also poses a threat. I'd love to see that fight.
That would be a great plan B, I wonder if he's been contacted.
You sound completely retarded. Andre ward has done all this **** to himself thinking he can demand this and that. GTFO!!!!
Is your sarcasm detector broken young fella? LOL
That's a great idea. Fonfara makes an excellent opponent for any light heavyweight, but he also poses a threat. I'd love to see that fight.
It be a good opportunity for Fonfara as well he beats Ward he gets another crack at Asonis or even Kovalev
You sure seem like it. The dude is trying his best here. Now he has some potential opponent looking to get paid money to fight him. The audacity of this new generation. The opponent also wants a signed contract well in advance of the fight. Why should Andre sign it now to give that guy all that extra time to prepare and gain an advantage?
It's just not right! You guys are trying to kill Andre Ward
You sound completely retarded. Andre ward has done all this **** to himself thinking he can demand this and that. GTFO!!!!
like what? goosen got him a 2 million guarantee and got ward on hbo. after ward got that he thought he was allowed to cherry pick and fight bums forever. the thing about that 2 mill guarantee and fighting on hbo is that they thought he was going to keep fighting good or at least solide opponents. edwin rodrigue was the only guy that they both could agree on even though he was weak. if you want to make a comparison it would be like ggg being forced into fighting curtis stevens while wanting to fight someone weaker like wtf!
A friend of Ward's put up money as a co-promoter with Goossen. He hadn't officially received his promoter's license yet so an agreement was reached that the legal formalities would be finalised after that happened. Goossen reneged on the agreement, kept the guys money, and refused to recognise him as Ward's co-promoter. Ward wasn't happy about it.
This is my understanding of the situation. And if it's accurate I can understand where Ward was coming from.
Only getting tired of it now? It was an issue by 2013. By now it's a disaster. Some of his grievances with Goossen were legit, but enough to throw away half your career for? I don't think so.
He's a great fighter but he seems to be oblivious to how pissed off fans are with him. It only takes one big win to get your career back on track, but he has wasted nearly three of his prime years. And if he loses the sad reality is that most fans will celebrate it.
like what? goosen got him a 2 million guarantee and got ward on hbo. after ward got that he thought he was allowed to cherry pick and fight bums forever. the thing about that 2 mill guarantee and fighting on hbo is that they thought he was going to keep fighting good or at least solide opponents. edwin rodrigue was the only guy that they both could agree on even though he was weak. if you want to make a comparison it would be like ggg being forced into fighting curtis stevens while wanting to fight someone weaker like wtf!
Only getting tired of it now? It was an issue by 2013. By now it's a disaster. Some of his grievances with Goossen were legit, but enough to throw away half your career for? I don't think so.
He's a great fighter but he seems to be oblivious to how pissed off fans are with him. It only takes one big win to get your career back on track, but he has wasted nearly three of his prime years. And if he loses the sad reality is that most fans will celebrate it.
I question his team as far as management goes. No disrespect to J.Prince but I do think it is Politics against him which keeps people away from doing business with Ward because J.Prince is his Manager.
What is the difference now compared to when Ward was with Goossen? Same with Rigondeaux to be honest, what is the difference now with Roc Nation compared to before?
Both needed something more ESTABLISHED as a Promotions behind them and somebody more Influential in the boxing world and has the POWER to make moves for their careers not a new Upstart Promotion who is just getting started
absolutely nothing. goosen was trying to get ward fights and found him some. froch, stevenson, and bute. ward simply did not want to take those fights insisting instead that he be allowed to fight saritson, periban, truax, and some others. problem is hbo only wanted the bute, froch, stevenson type fights and not garbage. so ward simply did not fight because he did not want to fight good opponents bottom line. roc nation has more money than goosen so they can buy air time on bet if they really want so i guess that's one difference but i think roc nation is realizing right about now that ward is a super diva who only wants that easy money. they will defend him for awhile but i see them turning on ward soon just like goosen did. some ward fans will probably even blame roc nation for ruining wards career like they blamed goosen simply becauase they didn't understand what was happening.
It feels like Ward has gone into super-careful mode, it doesn't feel like he wants to fight a threat.
The gap in quality of the names Ward has rumored to have been putting to HBO over the last 2-3 years compared to the names he has been turning down is quite marked.
i dont even think its that at all i think he just feels underappraciated and its now killing his career and im a real ward fan not just someone who likes him cause they dont like ggg which i see a lot of around here
I question his team as far as management goes. No disrespect to J.Prince but I do think it is Politics against him which keeps people away from doing business with Ward because J.Prince is his Manager.
What is the difference now compared to when Ward was with Goossen? Same with Rigondeaux to be honest, what is the difference now with Roc Nation compared to before?
Both needed something more ESTABLISHED as a Promotions behind them and somebody more Influential in the boxing world and has the POWER to make moves for their careers not a new Upstart Promotion who is just getting started
Super-careful mode. :lol1: :lol1:
The man is signed to fight Kovalev this year. The scariest fighter in the sport.
You know who is actually in super-careful mode? The coward that ducked Ward and continues to call out retired WWs and blown-up JMWs, Gennady Golovkin.
the game's up man. stop pretending that ggg ducked ward when it was the other way around. years ago ggg tried to fight ward and ward said he wasn't ready. now ward offered ggg a 50-50 split for a fight at the end of 2016. why would ggg lock in a 50-50 split with an unpopular fighter when he knows he's fighting canelo before ward? so after the canelo fight he still has to have a 50-50 split with ward lmao and you take that garbage seriously? honestly please tell me why in the world someone would do that? it would be like floyd signing a 50-50 split with cory spinks before the oscar fight. absurd, and its absurd that you can't comprehend that or maybe you are simply pretending because you are a fanboy.