why do even the most mediocre fights take so long to get made at pbc?

After Mayweather vs Pacquiao :lol1: Next we have K2 bringing us Triple Step Aside vs Tureano Johnson, the step aside king stepping aside for a third time :lol1: yeah, or ward vs tba (just kidding, muh knee hurts doe). :lol1:

yea, or mayweather vs berto. :lol1: After Mayweather vs Pacquiao :lol1: Next we have K2 bringing us Triple Step Aside vs Tureano Johnson, the step aside king stepping aside for a third time :lol1:

Yes. Luckily we've had the saviors of boxing, K2 bringing us fights like Golovkin vs Willie Monroe Jr. yea, or mayweather vs berto. :lol1:

the majority of these fights are the definition of mediocre considering the talent pool that haymon possesses. you're just too much of a pbc slave puppet to understand. why even make fights like thurman-collazo or garcia-judah or the bum of the month club jacobs and quillin fought before facing each other? haymon will typically put one of his "name" guys against some gatekeeper and you all claim it's a 'great' fight. Yes. Luckily we've had the saviors of boxing, K2 bringing us fights like Golovkin vs Willie Monroe Jr.

They're still in year 1 as we speak. They launched in April 2015, April 2016 will be 12 months of PBC. They wasted year one: Thurman-Guerrero Broner-Molina Stevenson-Bika Lee-Quillin Garcia-Peterson Dirrell-Jack Figueroa-Burns Kameda-McDonell Dirrell-DeGale Khan-Algieri Fortuna-Vasquez Broner-Porter Barthelemey-DeMarco Thurman-Collazo Frampton-Gonzalez Payano-Warren Huck-Glowacki Santa Cruz-Mares McDonell-Kameda Bundrage-Charlo Fonfora-Cleverly Kono-Kameda Figueroa-Demarco Arreola-Kauffman ^8 months of boxing via PBC, plus other lesser fights I did not mention. If PBC wasted year one, imagine what the rest of boxing did to the year. the majority of these fights are the definition of mediocre considering the talent pool that haymon possesses. you're just too much of a pbc slave puppet to understand. why even make fights like thurman-collazo or garcia-judah or the bum of the month club jacobs and quillin fought before facing each other? haymon will typically put one of his "name" guys against some gatekeeper and you all claim it's a 'great' fight.

Just off the top of my head thinking -- it's like PBC is feeding Danny Garcia the same guys Thurman just fought. What is it? Guerrero and Luis Collazo. Collazo is being passed around more than a 5 dollar Tijuana hooker. Getting paid doe. I guess it beats driving cabs or mopping up bar messes. PBC: "Building gatekeepers one fight at a time"

The winner of Thurman vs Porter automatically becomes the new 147 king. That's why a lot of us are making a big deal out of this fight. Look at the 147 landscape, the supposed 147 top guys been fighting trash basically. Kell Brook did win his belt against Shawn Porter and i give him props for that but he's been fighting pure garbage ever since. I can't even remember the names of the guys he's been fighting. Personally i do not consider Tim Bradley an elite 147er but a lot of people do for some reason. I do not believe that one should become a welterterweight champion by defeating fckin trash bag jesse vergas. I do not belive one becomes an elite welterweight by defeating fckin bum bum rios, jesse vergas and diego chaves. Oh and losing to #48 twice. No matter wich way you slice it, the winner of Thurman-Porter becomes THE guy. :usa2: Sure, beating phucking 42 year old Bundu, washed up Collazo, washed up Julio Diaz, slow as molasses Karass and the guy you just discredited in your post Chaves makes you the man? You have to be kidding or something because Bradley's resume is 10 times better than Thurman's is. It's like pulling teeth to get Thurman to confirm his fight with an actual legit welterweight because the guy has had so many soft touches, he doesn't know what it means to face a threat.

They're still in year 1 as we speak. They launched in April 2015, April 2016 will be 12 months of PBC. They wasted year one: Thurman-Guerrero Broner-Molina Stevenson-Bika Lee-Quillin Garcia-Peterson Dirrell-Jack Figueroa-Burns Kameda-McDonell Dirrell-DeGale Khan-Algieri Fortuna-Vasquez Broner-Porter Barthelemey-DeMarco Thurman-Collazo Frampton-Gonzalez Payano-Warren Huck-Glowacki Santa Cruz-Mares McDonell-Kameda Bundrage-Charlo Fonfora-Cleverly Kono-Kameda Figueroa-Demarco Arreola-Kauffman ^8 months of boxing via PBC, plus other lesser fights I did not mention. If PBC wasted year one, imagine what the rest of boxing did to the year. They put on a bunch of good fights,but unfortunately they haven't built an audience, because they are on a million different channels and times.. And the ratings reflect that... And after every big win a pbc fighter has, it won't be followed up with a big fight, and they will lose all momentum,,, Pbc should have already had Russell jr vs Santa cruz... No brainer of a fight and winner would really become a star., instead they will fight every 7 months vs some cherrypick.. At the rate PBC is going, no network is going to give them 100+ million like ufc gets from fox... PBC may get a smaller TV deal, but it won't be big enough to deliver fights like thurman-ghost or Santa cruz-mares, and we will get nothing but espn FnF caliber fights...

When did those become mediocre fights?

Pbc is lacking long term vision... Basically wasted year 1... Had some good fights but leads to nowhere.. What has Santa cruz, Thurman, porter, Garcia etc done to capitalize on big wins they had... Nothing They're still in year 1 as we speak. They launched in April 2015, April 2016 will be 12 months of PBC. They wasted year one: Thurman-Guerrero Broner-Molina Stevenson-Bika Lee-Quillin Garcia-Peterson Dirrell-Jack Figueroa-Burns Kameda-McDonell Dirrell-DeGale Khan-Algieri Fortuna-Vasquez Broner-Porter Barthelemey-DeMarco Thurman-Collazo Frampton-Gonzalez Payano-Warren Huck-Glowacki Santa Cruz-Mares McDonell-Kameda Bundrage-Charlo Fonfora-Cleverly Kono-Kameda Figueroa-Demarco Arreola-Kauffman ^8 months of boxing via PBC, plus other lesser fights I did not mention. If PBC wasted year one, imagine what the rest of boxing did to the year.

Same could be said of everyone over at HBO as well. Where the hell is Ward? Kovalev is fighting who? Golovkin doesn't even have a single fight lined up. Roman Gonzalez has done **** since being with HBO. Bradley vs Pac??? Again??? Crawford? What about him? And let's not even mention Lomachenko. This isn't just one group. All of boxing is in the same position right now. Why is it everyone focuses on just one group. I'm so confused. Hbo is just showcasing talent,,, and they have the best talent in the world and the biggest fights.. Golovkin is lined up with canelo, Ward is fighting kovolev.. Roman-Estrada 2 will happen.. All in the next 12 months PBC has a ton of fighters, but they waste away in meaningless fights with no long term payoff..

Because they did three years of time buys and most of PBC's most vocal dissenters interest in the sport ends when Manny retires and/or GGG takes an L....

Pbc is lacking long term vision... Basically wasted year 1... Had some good fights but leads to nowhere.. What has Santa cruz, Thurman, porter, Garcia etc done to capitalize on big wins they had... Nothing Same could be said of everyone over at HBO as well. Where the hell is Ward? Kovalev is fighting who? Golovkin doesn't even have a single fight lined up. Roman Gonzalez has done **** since being with HBO. Bradley vs Pac??? Again??? Crawford? What about him? And let's not even mention Lomachenko. This isn't just one group. All of boxing is in the same position right now. Why is it everyone focuses on just one group. I'm so confused.

What great fights do everyone else have on the horizon? Wtf is wrong with u dudes???

Ward, Kovalev, GGG, Cotto, Canelo, Lomachenko, Walters, Crawford, Pacquiao are all with HBO but we gotta wait over a year for those fights? All the fights you mentioned have been made in less than a year. What's your complaint? His complaint is the same one they all have. Haymon and afraid of change. They are "pee-ons" in life and all these people do is complain

Pbc is lacking long term vision... Basically wasted year 1... Had some good fights but leads to nowhere.. What has Santa cruz, Thurman, porter, Garcia etc done to capitalize on big wins they had... Nothing

Meanwhile, Bob Arum is letting Juanma-Gamboa marinate a little longer...

If this isn't an alt IDK what is.

Didn't take long for freedom to make an alt lol.............

I was saying this two years ago on this forum all this overpaying guys is going to be a problem because when they do step up those guy will be asking for crazy money