Why isn't Tyson Fury on the Ring P4P list?

Including the bias that people have mentioned against Fury, my assumption is that people are waiting on the rematch. If Wlad comes back strong and wins they can call it an off night for him. If Fury does a repeat then there's no reason to doubt him. Politics... I think there'll always be reason to doubt Fury. He's never a fighter people can just recognise for what he is.

Including the bias that people have mentioned against Fury, my assumption is that people are waiting on the rematch. If Wlad comes back strong and wins they can call it an off night for him. If Fury does a repeat then there's no reason to doubt him. Politics...

I bet you if it was Wilder, he'd be up there real quick.

Fury himself said P4P is bollocks, so why care. True. If Andre Ward were the same weight as Fury he wouldn't last two rounds.

Fury should be on any p4p list but this is not the only case of p4p lists being stupid. Remember when Broner and Maidana were ranked...or Guerrero? LOL Maidana was correctly listed, and still is on my list. You don't come close to a draw with the p4p champ and not skyrocket the p4p list, you just did something no one else on that list could do.

Look i've been repping fury on here since day one, (i wrote this in 2012) And i've been dealing with idiots bashing on him since day one and it ain't gonna stop anytime soon but fury himself knows this, he doesn't care and neither do I, it's hilarious watching him prove people wrong over and over again Great post. I have been on the Fury bandwagon for just about as long. Credible boxing minds around the world, like myself for example, have Fury in our top 10 p4p rankings. "real recognize real".

Fury should be on any p4p list but this is not the only case of p4p lists being stupid. Remember when Broner and Maidana were ranked...or Guerrero? LOL

Don't get so worked up about it. Ring has no credibility their pfp is always wack

Fury himself said P4P is bollocks, so why care. This. The p4p rankings are flawed. Wlad had recently dropped to no.6 I think behind some guys who weren't even champion of their respective division. Upon his loss he exited and Fury with the manner of his victory seemingly unimpressive to a lot wasn't deserbing of being entered. I can agree somewhat, but their are guys Fury deserves to be ahead of and so does Wlad too IMO.

Fury himself said P4P is bollocks, so why care.

Sorry, but Fury doesn't deserve it and it's not even close. Wlad was on some people's P4P lists, and not on others. He was there because he dominated the division for 10 years, with the biggest knock on him being that he doesn't have any 'signature' wins. You can't bash a fighter because his opposition has 'sucked', yet try to prop up Fury for beating him. Plus Wlad is 40 and their fight was absolutely atrocious. I give Fury props for executing a good game plan, but he proved absolutely nothing in my eyes. I would still be very hesitant to favor him over any of the other elite HWs out there.

Difficult to say with Wladimir. My gut feeling is that the rematch will happen, too much $$ involved for it not to. Wladimir has recently signed another big TV contract, and is obliged to fight. If he retires, i imagine he'd have to repay them a lot of money. I suspect he rematches Fury, loses, and then fights one last time as a goodbye fight for his fans. Maybe he could get a sick note from Dr Eisenfaust? :lol1:

No probs mate. What do you think the chances are that Wlad doesn't go through with the rematch? I wouldn't be surprised if he gets another injury in training and decides to call it a day and retire. Fury has lost so much time and money training for fights that never happened. I hope Uncle Pete and Hennessy get a good alternative opponent lined up and ready to step in, just in case. Difficult to say with Wladimir. My gut feeling is that the rematch will happen, too much $$ involved for it not to. Wladimir has recently signed another big TV contract, and is obliged to fight. If he retires, i imagine he'd have to repay them a lot of money. I suspect he rematches Fury, loses, and then fights one last time as a goodbye fight for his fans.

The ring magazine has been letting down lately and I'm very disappointed. The Ring stripped Adonis Stevensson of their light heavyweight Championship. I know Stevensson hasn't been setting the world on fire lately but he never lost his title in the Ring also I'm not a fan of Stevensson. I didn't think anything was wrong with the old championship policy. The Ring's new ratings policy is a joke The problem with the Ring's old policy was that a title you can keep hold of till you are too old to climb into a ring, without ever fighting a top contender, has no value at all.

Hype job was the wrong term, apologies, i actually think he's the real deal. I just meant that as of yet, and i'm not saying it's his own fault, i know it's difficult to get people in the ring with him, he's not defeated any highly rated fighters. No probs mate. What do you think the chances are that Wlad doesn't go through with the rematch? I wouldn't be surprised if he gets another injury in training and decides to call it a day and retire. Fury has lost so much time and money training for fights that never happened. I hope Uncle Pete and Hennessy get a good alternative opponent lined up and ready to step in, just in case.

Because the p4p #1 Wlad Klitschko was actually shot. Who knew? Certainly not the people on NSB who said he should have been p4p #1 and are now calling him shot.

The ring magazine has been letting down lately and I'm very disappointed. The Ring stripped Adonis Stevensson of their light heavyweight Championship. I know Stevensson hasn't been setting the world on fire lately but he never lost his title in the Ring also I'm not a fan of Stevensson. I didn't think anything was wrong with the old championship policy. The Ring's new ratings policy is a joke

I agree with everything you say here, except the part about GGG. As an amateur, 345 wins out 350 fights, world championship gold and olympic silver medal winner. As a pro, undefeated unified world champion, KO'd 6 top 10 ranked opponents in the last 3 years. Trust me, Golovkin is no hype job. Back to Fury, I too get annoyed and frustrated reading all this "Wlad got old" bull**** over and over again. On the other hand, if the bookies believe it, they'll carry on making Tyson the underdog when he defends his titles and I'll carry on winning money backing him! Hype job was the wrong term, apologies, i actually think he's the real deal. I just meant that as of yet, and i'm not saying it's his own fault, i know it's difficult to get people in the ring with him, he's not defeated any highly rated fighters.

Look i've been repping fury on here since day one, (i wrote this in 2012) And i've been dealing with idiots bashing on him since day one and it ain't gonna stop anytime soon but fury himself knows this, he doesn't care and neither do I, it's hilarious watching him prove people wrong over and over again Good analysis! Written before I joined this site so I didn't read it back then.

Because they're biased. Wladimir was number 1 on Dan Rafael's p4p list. I bet Fury isn't on his current list though. Now everyone is claiming that Wladimir is shot & trying to downplay Fury's win. It's disgusting, but it was always going to happen. As Big John Fury correctly predicted, Fury could win 50 titles and he still wouldn't get the credit. He's not even getting FOTY ffs, they're awarding it to guys like Mayweather who barely beat an injured Manny, who had been brutally KO'd a couple of fights before, and Canelo, a guy making a career from beating up midgets, or GGG, a hype job with no legit wins. Fury can't win i'm afraid. He beats Povetkin, Povetkin is too small, he beats Wilder, he beat a hypejob, same with AJ/Ortiz etc. He beats Wladimir Klitschko, he's beaten an old, shot champion. Personally i feel a lot of these so called boxing "experts", including on this site, are embarrassed about how they predicted the fight would pan out, and thus are trying to downplay and discredit Fury's performance. I agree with everything you say here, except the part about GGG. As an amateur, 345 wins out 350 fights, world championship gold and olympic silver medal winner. As a pro, undefeated unified world champion, KO'd 6 top 10 ranked opponents in the last 3 years. Trust me, Golovkin is no hype job. Back to Fury, I too get annoyed and frustrated reading all this "Wlad got old" bull**** over and over again. On the other hand, if the bookies believe it, they'll carry on making Tyson the underdog when he defends his titles and I'll carry on winning money backing him!