Nobody who legitimately wins a world amateur championship, and an olympic medal is a terrible fighter.
Some of them end up not being durable enough or having the power to cut it without headgear, but to accomplish that you have to be supremely skilled.
If Floyd beat GGG, it would be the best win of his career by a huge margin. I still don't understand how people **** on GGG when he cleaned out the division, emphatically, including both of the fighters that gave Sergio Martinez fits and did so while making it look easy. He already has the 2nd most Middleweight title defenses in the history of the sport against arguably better opponents than Hopkins faces for most of his middleweight reign.
So tell me, how would Floyd beating the consensus Middleweight Champion of the World, who has the 2nd highest number of title defenses in middleweight history, who also won both a world amateur championship, and a silver medal in the olympics, not say anything about how great Floyd is?
LOL this big time.
Not to mention with the possible exception of james degale....GGG would probably be favored over pretty much everyone 154-168(ward is now @175 with a kov contract in place).......how in the world would this not be his nicest win.....lol I can't believe you guys are pushing back on this one......lol
Depends on how Pac looks against Bradley. If he is shot to pieces we can say GGG is a bigger win and Floyd picked Pac at the right moment. It also depends on whether Floyd fights him at 160 or uses some catch weight.
If Mayweather hasn't convinced people by now that he's the best ever, I doubt he'll ever be able to convince them by beating GGG.
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I would straight up call Mayweather the best ever if he came out of retirement and beat any version of Golovkin that wasn't drained or something. That would be f*cking crazy.
It would be something else indeed
Most of Floyd's biggest fans on here have trashed GGG and his resume, so I imagine they would want/expect very little credit.
Personally I think that, unless GGG looks like a skeleton on the scales, it would be his most impressive victory.
That's what they said about Floyd fighting Martinez though, don't act like you don't remember...
Most of Floyd's biggest fans on here have trashed GGG and his resume, so I imagine they would want/expect very little credit.
Personally I think that, unless GGG looks like a skeleton on the scales, it would be his most impressive victory.
Big risk! -IF- they was to engage it would certainly be the hottest fork in the fireplace at the moment! FM wouldn't have to "answer" any-more-questions ever ha ha! It -SEEM- nearly "staged/set-up" that way with how he "wrapped"/don't it though?
BUT COULD HE WIN? Would it be a 50-50 fight?
ONE THING... if such does come to fruit......I advise Floy.May to force the "Ibo" off the table. I don't care how much ring "talent" anyone has. They "deal" with the admin of the Sport "wrong"......they are "only stupid".
I would straight up call Mayweather the best ever if he came out of retirement and beat any version of Golovkin that wasn't drained or something. That would be f*cking crazy.
He's FORTY fucking years old man. He's not coming back. You're just asking to get knocked out at 40.
He's 39. And people make too big a deal over age sometimes.
The only simpletons are the ones who actually think he's 100% retired, like your big, dumb-ass.
He's FORTY fucking years old man. He's not coming back. You're just asking to get knocked out at 40.
They should just start issuing out bans for people who make Mayweather vs GGG threads. He's not coming back simpletons. He's retired.
The only simpletons are the ones who actually think he's 100% retired, like your big, dumb-ass.
Nobody who legitimately wins a world amateur championship, and an olympic medal is a terrible fighter.
Some of them end up not being durable enough or having the power to cut it without headgear, but to accomplish that you have to be supremely skilled.
If Floyd beat GGG, it would be the best win of his career by a huge margin. I still don't understand how people **** on GGG when he cleaned out the division, emphatically, including both of the fighters that gave Sergio Martinez fits and did so while making it look easy. He already has the 2nd most Middleweight title defenses in the history of the sport against arguably better opponents than Hopkins faces for most of his middleweight reign.
So tell me, how would Floyd beating the consensus Middleweight Champion of the World, who has the 2nd highest number of title defenses in middleweight history, who also won both a world amateur championship, and a silver medal in the olympics, not say anything about how great Floyd is?
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Obviously Oscar got it his way when they fought.
Floyd got things his way when he fought Cotto, and despite Cotto's brief comeback manufactured through excellent matchmaking. Cotto was faded when Floyd fought him. He was not the same fighter that Pacquiao faced.
The public was clamoring for Floyd vs Cotto after Cotto beat Judah, what did we get? Floyd fought Ricky Hatton, who looked ooooooh so great vs Luis Collazo at his only attempt at 147 that he moved back down to 140, until Floyd dragged him up to 147 for a "super fight".
Oh... he then decided to "retire" after Cotto beat Mosley a month later and the public were demanding a fight with Cotto...
After Cotto was beaten by Antonio Plasterito.
Mayweather then waits for negotiations between Cotto and Pacquiao to start before retiring to bring Marquez up from 135.
Once against Mayweather fights Marquez within months of Pacquiao vs Cotto, this time Cotto getting a severe beating from Pacquiao effectively ending his prime.
This was of course when Manny Pacquiao was now at his absolute best. The whole world wanted Pacquiao vs Mayweather. Instead... we get Mosley a year and a half off his upset win over Margarito, and 3 years from from his last meaningful fight against a skilled opponent which was 2007 Cotto. Then we get the joke that was Victor Ortiz... then 3 years after his peak ended, and 5 years after the public wanted it, we finally got Miguel Cotto, the same year Pacquiao lost to Bradley and Marquez back to back.
Credit to Floyd though, after going through another soft touch in a 135lber he moved up to 147 in Robert Guerrero, he took a risk with Canelo.
After that, he went right back to the Maidana's of the world, and after two much more difficult than they should have been fights, he finally realized that he better cash out his Pacquiao chip before he is the one slipping.
a full 6 years after Pacquiao was at his best, and once again3 years after he had obviously faded from his former glory, Floyd finally fights Pacquiao.
Brilliantly managed career path Haymon laid out for him. But its very very clear just looking at the timing and dates of fights and announcements that they were all scheduled soft touches to be in conflict with the possibility of fighting someone in their prime, planned retirements, and careful avoidance of risky fighters at their best.
It's hard to argue that guys......
Is this real life?? He said the odds were in Floyd favor really so the cotton fight and de LA Hoya fights at 154??
Obviously Oscar got it his way when they fought.
Floyd got things his way when he fought Cotto, and despite Cotto's brief comeback manufactured through excellent matchmaking. Cotto was faded when Floyd fought him. He was not the same fighter that Pacquiao faced.
The public was clamoring for Floyd vs Cotto after Cotto beat Judah, what did we get? Floyd fought Ricky Hatton, who looked ooooooh so great vs Luis Collazo at his only attempt at 147 that he moved back down to 140, until Floyd dragged him up to 147 for a "super fight".
Oh... he then decided to "retire" after Cotto beat Mosley a month later and the public were demanding a fight with Cotto...
After Cotto was beaten by Antonio Plasterito.
Mayweather then waits for negotiations between Cotto and Pacquiao to start before retiring to bring Marquez up from 135.
Once against Mayweather fights Marquez within months of Pacquiao vs Cotto, this time Cotto getting a severe beating from Pacquiao effectively ending his prime.
This was of course when Manny Pacquiao was now at his absolute best. The whole world wanted Pacquiao vs Mayweather. Instead... we get Mosley a year and a half off his upset win over Margarito, and 3 years from from his last meaningful fight against a skilled opponent which was 2007 Cotto. Then we get the joke that was Victor Ortiz... then 3 years after his peak ended, and 5 years after the public wanted it, we finally got Miguel Cotto, the same year Pacquiao lost to Bradley and Marquez back to back.
Credit to Floyd though, after going through another soft touch in a 135lber he moved up to 147 in Robert Guerrero, he took a risk with Canelo.
After that, he went right back to the Maidana's of the world, and after two much more difficult than they should have been fights, he finally realized that he better cash out his Pacquiao chip before he is the one slipping.
a full 6 years after Pacquiao was at his best, and once again3 years after he had obviously faded from his former glory, Floyd finally fights Pacquiao.
Brilliantly managed career path Haymon laid out for him. But its very very clear just looking at the timing and dates of fights and announcements that they were all scheduled soft touches to be in conflict with the possibility of fighting someone in their prime, planned retirements, and careful avoidance of risky fighters at their best.
At 160 it would be Floyds best win and would be comparable to some of the greats wins, Floyd so wants to emulate.
Floyd has never beat a middleweight and GGG beats middleweights for fun. Only people who dont think Floyd will gain much are people who dont want Floyd to be great.
I love to see the fight at the full limit, 160, as I said many times. It's not a prerequisite for Floyd to fight a middleweight. He's a welterweight.
I'm a hardcore Floyd fan, but he's not a middleweight. Used to be Canelo fan, but fvck him. I wanna see these fights.
But I'm not sure the middleweight boogeyman will fight Floyd at '54.