Where Do You Stand On These Controversies?

Have you seen the videos? They should suffice. In terms of Wilder-Scott, who cares, that was a bs fight anyway. Margy v Cotto is a tough one as a lot of the headlines were sensationalised, proclaiming that plaster had been found inside the gloves or there slabs inside etc etc etc. But the actual report states, and this is from memory so I may be wrong, but trace amounts of substances found in plaster of paris were found in Marg's gloves. Maybe it was blown out of proportion, may be not but why were such substances in there in the first place? hand lotion has the same substances, the amount of the substances was never relaesed...which is why the investigation and suspension was a joke, and it was in the Mosley fight...0 proof of it being used in the Cotto fight.

You don't have to answer all of them but feel free to and also add some other controversies if you can think of any. Simple answers.... 1. Ali-Liston II Legit win or phantom punch? Or other? 2. Pryor-Arguello I Legit win or illegal drinking substance? Or other? 3. Margarito-Cotto I Legit win or loaded hand wraps? Or other? 4. Wilder-Scott Legit win or a dive? Or other? 5. Tunney-Dempsey II Legit win or long count? Or other? 1. Legit Win 2. illegal drinking substance 3. Loaded hand wraps 4. Legit win (Wilder slapped molina, made his eyes rolls back & got a kd) 5. A REEEEAAALLLLYYYYY long 14-15 count

Liston threw the fight (both times). Panama Lewis gave him the bottle that he mixed, his own words. Cotto got beat by Tony, too many people watching the hand wrapping in Vegas to have cheated. Tony could throw over 100 punched per round, his pressure would have been bad for Cotto (or anyone). Wilder fight looked suspect (funny it was in Puerto Rico, so no US investigation, like Liston/Clay,Ali fights. Count was not long, Dempsey didn't go to his corner. When Dempsey was dropped, the ref started counting immediately. That made the count under more question. Why wasnt his pressure bad for a older mosley? Or anyone after he fought cotto? Also the same substance that was found in the first fight was also found in the Mosley fight he cheated bro

Liston threw the fight (both times). Panama Lewis gave him the bottle that he mixed, his own words. Cotto got beat by Tony, too many people watching the hand wrapping in Vegas to have cheated. Tony could throw over 100 punched per round, his pressure would have been bad for Cotto (or anyone). Wilder fight looked suspect (funny it was in Puerto Rico, so no US investigation, like Liston/Clay,Ali fights. Count was not long, Dempsey didn't go to his corner. When Dempsey was dropped, the ref started counting immediately. That made the count under more question.

I think you can always speculate when a guy is caught with PEDs or in this case loaded wraps that they weren't caught the first time they used those means to give them an edge, but you can't convict someone on speculation so until proven otherwise I think you gotta give Margarito the Cotto win legitimately. This looked sketchy as f#ck to me for sure. Idk if its for sure a dive, but definitely a sketchy performance by Scott. So Floyd has been doing this IV thing since when the Luster De la Hoya win ?

You don't have to answer all of them but feel free to and also add some other controversies if you can think of any. Simple answers.... 1. Ali-Liston II Legit win or phantom punch? Or other? 2. Pryor-Arguello I Legit win or illegal drinking substance? Or other? 3. Margarito-Cotto I Legit win or loaded hand wraps? Or other? 4. Wilder-Scott Legit win or a dive? Or other? 5. Tunney-Dempsey II Legit win or long count? Or other? Liston took a dive Panama brown would throw crush asthma medicine to open the lungs Luis Resto is on YouTube stating that Scott took a dive

Pryor was beating the hell out of Arguello. I don't care what was in his bottle.

#1 The punch landed, but Liston purposely dived IMO. #4 Scott definitely took a dive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4 @1:10 Look at Scott's eyes. He's still looking directly and perfectly at Wilder. Never once does his eyes wonder around after that shot. Just watch his facial expression all the way until 1:19.

Interesting. Some divided opinions here,

You don't have to answer all of them but feel free to and also add some other controversies if you can think of any. Simple answers.... 1. Ali-Liston II Legit win or phantom punch? Or other? 2. Pryor-Arguello I Legit win or illegal drinking substance? Or other? 3. Margarito-Cotto I Legit win or loaded hand wraps? Or other? 4. Wilder-Scott Legit win or a dive? Or other? 5. Tunney-Dempsey II Legit win or long count? Or other? Legit punch...Liston could have got up but didn't want the trouble it would bring Legit...Unless he literally had 80% cocaine in the water nothing would act that fast, greatness just exists in some people Fanboy in me points to the blood on his wraps, the Mosley fight and Margs complete lack of a career after he was found out ...But still those uppercuts in the early rounds didn't help none( it's just kinda hard to see Cotto quit like that after coming through the Hell Torres unleashed on him) Shameless Dive...disgusting Long Count And also had Bradley over Manny in the first fight...Chaves over Bradley in their fight .... Trout and Lara beating Canelo...

You don't have to answer all of them but feel free to and also add some other controversies if you can think of any. Simple answers.... 1. Ali-Liston II Legit win or phantom punch? Or other? 2. Pryor-Arguello I Legit win or illegal drinking substance? Or other? 3. Margarito-Cotto I Legit win or loaded hand wraps? Or other? 4. Wilder-Scott Legit win or a dive? Or other? 5. Tunney-Dempsey II Legit win or long count? Or other? Have you seen the videos? They should suffice. In terms of Wilder-Scott, who cares, that was a bs fight anyway. Margy v Cotto is a tough one as a lot of the headlines were sensationalised, proclaiming that plaster had been found inside the gloves or there slabs inside etc etc etc. But the actual report states, and this is from memory so I may be wrong, but trace amounts of substances found in plaster of paris were found in Marg's gloves. Maybe it was blown out of proportion, may be not but why were such substances in there in the first place?

1. Video proof it was a legit punch. Anyone who denies that is blind. You can argue all day whether Liston threw the fight or whatever but you can never deny the punch landed. 2. Hard to argue it wasn't something illegal. 3. I have no idea, but Margarito was busted once, and I'm not going to feel bad for him if people think he was doing that in every fight. That's the consequence of being caught cheating, your whole career is questioned. 4. Obvious dive. The "KD" punch didn't even land. Maybe it wasn't supposed to be a dive and Scott just gave up, but that dude clearly faked it. 5. It was a long count, but Dempsey should have gone back to a neutral corner.

You don't have to answer all of them but feel free to and also add some other controversies if you can think of any. Simple answers.... 1. Ali-Liston II Legit win or phantom punch? Or other? 2. Pryor-Arguello I Legit win or illegal drinking substance? Or other? 3. Margarito-Cotto I Legit win or loaded hand wraps? Or other? 4. Wilder-Scott Legit win or a dive? Or other? 5. Tunney-Dempsey II Legit win or long count? Or other? I can give my take on all but add in Chavez sr vs Meldrick Taylor! Tyson Douglas long count!

You don't have to answer all of them but feel free to and also add some other controversies if you can think of any. Simple answers.... 1. Ali-Liston II Legit win or phantom punch? Or other? 2. Pryor-Arguello I Legit win or illegal drinking substance? Or other? 3. Margarito-Cotto I Legit win or loaded hand wraps? Or other? 4. Wilder-Scott Legit win or a dive? Or other? 5. Tunney-Dempsey II Legit win or long count? Or other? 1. Phantom punch. 2. Illegal drinking substance. 3. Legit...just don't see enough evidence. 4. Clear dive.