I've always respected fighters that have gone overseas to win a world title or to defend one.
Fighters like Ali and Robinson use to pretty much have world tours, they had so much belief in their ability, didn't fear losing and would go to an opponents backyard, even when they didn't have to.
Fighting overseas is a risk, that's why I give extra credit that have done that and it's also detracts from a fighter for me, if they have not fought for a title or defended outside of their home country. Definitely adds to a fighters resume.
The thing is a fighter like Sven Ottke is always critisised for never fighting outside of Germany but Floyd Mayweather never left the US and didn't even fight outside of Vegas for over a decade.
The home advantage both fighters had throughout their careers was easy to see too. I wasn't putting Ottke on the same level as Floyd, just mentioning this particular similarity.
The U.S. is like the major leagues though, if a fighter really wants to make a name and some money and prove greatness they gotta go to vegas, I see what you mean though, the biggest issue now is fighters from both sides are so worried about getting robbed that they don't want to do it.
When a fighter does go overseas and wins a huge fight, the magnitude of the fighters win will be rewarded by boxing fans, but as of now no one seems to want to do it at all. Floyd was just lucky in the sense that he was so good he didn't have to do stuff like that and sadly for him most of the American fans don't like him anyway. if Floyd would have fought Hatton in the UK I bet he would have made more than he did with manny if he got gate and ppv money on top of his purse. So this wasn't about dickriding Floyd but more just a point that because he was so great and was in a position to dictate his terms he was able to fight where he wanted.
Yet Floyd is known world wide and that guy i just some guy who fights in Germany, the difference is very easy to see.
The home advantage both fighters had throughout their careers was easy to see too. I wasn't putting Ottke on the same level as Floyd, just mentioning this particular similarity.
The thing is a fighter like Sven Ottke is always critisised for never fighting outside of Germany but Floyd Mayweather never left the US and didn't even fight outside of Vegas for over a decade.
Yet Floyd is known world wide and that guy i just some guy who fights in Germany, the difference is very easy to see.
The thing is a fighter like Sven Ottke is always critisised for never fighting outside of Germany but Floyd Mayweather never left the US and didn't even fight outside of Vegas for over a decade.
No it really doesn't, but that's your opinion, cool. For me it's who you beat. It could have been 50 fights live from your basement, if you beat worthy opponents you're good in my book.I agree with this. Fans know when a boxer has been robbed. Many champions don't want to fight in certain countries for fear of being robbed and I can't blame them for that. If a champion defends his title against top competition in his own country then he is a good champion. The challenger can have a neutral referee and judges and usually get a fair fight.
I've always respected fighters that have gone overseas to win a world title or to defend one.
Fighters like Ali and Robinson use to pretty much have world tours, they had so much belief in their ability, didn't fear losing and would go to an opponents backyard, even when they didn't have to.
Fighting overseas is a risk, that's why I give extra credit that have done that and it's also detracts from a fighter for me, if they have not fought for a title or defended outside of their home country. Definitely adds to a fighters resume.
If something is "extra credit", then it isn't something you can penalize when it isn't done. Otherwise, it's just an expectation. Not to take away from your original point though, as I do have more respect for the "road warriors" who travel to other countries and build their name that way. It definitely isn't easy, because if it was, more fighters would do it. I'm also wondering when Braehmer will come over and get his ass kicked by Kovalev lol
Absolutely. Fighting in an opponents backyard, several timezones away, with a hostile crowd and a language you dont know. Big difference and is definetely a major obstacle.
That's exactly right. I respect any fighter willing to walk in to the lions den.
No it really doesn't, but that's your opinion, cool. For me it's who you beat. It could have been 50 fights live from your basement, if you beat worthy opponents you're good in my book.
But you have a nice little advantage when fighting at home, especially these days where you have fighters in bed with the casinos, hotels, officials....you have fighters choosing there opponents gloves and ring canvas'
Shows real character to take yourself out of your comfort zone.
I've always respected fighters that have gone overseas to win a world title or to defend one.
Fighters like Ali and Robinson use to pretty much have world tours, they had so much belief in their ability, didn't fear losing and would go to an opponents backyard, even when they didn't have to.
Fighting overseas is a risk, that's why I give extra credit that have done that and it's also detracts from a fighter for me, if they have not fought for a title or defended outside of their home country. Definitely adds to a fighters resume.
Absolutely. Fighting in an opponents backyard, several timezones away, with a hostile crowd and a language you dont know. Big difference and is definetely a major obstacle.
No it really doesn't, but that's your opinion, cool. For me it's who you beat. It could have been 50 fights live from your basement, if you beat worthy opponents you're good in my book.