How can PBC become self-sufficient?

The problem is PBC is always going to be competing against something. I am sick of guys say, "but they were up against the NFL or up against college football. Making excuses as to why the viewers are not there. The truth is the PBC is always going to be against something. Whether it be the NFL, college football, baseball, basketball. So that excuse is not worth a damn. 15 year old COPS reruns get better numbers. Maybe THATS the competitor they should be worried about lol......

There is always an excuse with you guys, always, at some point you just have to look at the falling ratings and be real. The first fight you mentioned is confirmed, every other one while great matchups are not confirmed. And if those fights were to be made it would be a great comeback for PBC, but knowing their matchmaking they probably won't. The problem is PBC is always going to be competing against something. I am sick of guys say, "but they were up against the NFL or up against college football. Making excuses as to why the viewers are not there. The truth is the PBC is always going to be against something. Whether it be the NFL, college football, baseball, basketball. So that excuse is not worth a damn.

So in your opinion, PBC will do better ratings than the NBA in most markets. We'll see in a month. No; I have no idea what ratings the NBA draws for it's regular season games, let alone anything else. I'm simply saying that Garcia-Guerrero, primetime on FOX, will do a number that is more in line with the numbers for Thurman-Guerrero, Garcia-Peterson, and Broner-Porter .

PBC is only due to be on Fox for three broadcasts in 2016, the first of which being the Jan 23rd show; to that, you can add the Tuesday Night Fights cards on FS1. January 23, 2016: Fox: Garcia-Guerrero, Vasquez-Martinez ABC: Cleveland Cavaliers vs Chicago Bulls For a casual sports fan in the New York media market (or any media market not Chicago, Cleveland, or the general Ohio markets), I sincerely doubt that, if given the option, they'd rather watch a middling NBA matchup, 30 games into the NBA season, over two quality (and generally well-matched) fights. So in your opinion, PBC will do better ratings than the NBA in most markets. We'll see in a month.

All the name fighters and big fights are on ShowTime. I feel like PBC is just a temporary plan to market fighters to fight on ShowTime at some point. LOL, they came back after spending time on PBC/free tv and look what happened? Lowest number for the network in years... like astronomically bad... I don't even know why NSB hasn't posted numbers like they do for every other broadcast. Degale/Bute less than 300k AVG and the big Battle for Brooklyn...380k AVG. These are the worst number for the network after having these guys "build up" On PBC to be showcased back on Showtime

Things change. PBC is now on FOX, and the NBA is putting prime time games on Saturday nights. Both will be on January 23rd. PBC is only due to be on Fox for three broadcasts in 2016, the first of which being the Jan 23rd show; to that, you can add the Tuesday Night Fights cards on FS1. January 23, 2016: Fox: Garcia-Guerrero, Vasquez-Martinez ABC: Cleveland Cavaliers vs Chicago Bulls For a casual sports fan in the New York media market (or any media market not Chicago, Cleveland, or the general Ohio markets), I sincerely doubt that, if given the option, they'd rather watch a middling NBA matchup, 30 games into the NBA season, over two quality (and generally well-matched) fights.

March Madness didn't impact things Yr 1, and the NBA didn't affect much Yr 1 either. Things change. PBC is now on FOX, and the NBA is putting prime time games on Saturday nights. Both will be on January 23rd.

You say this now, but when the NBA starts with prime time games on Saturday nights on ABC and then March Madness comes, and then the NBA playoffs start, you'll be talking about the conflicts with basketball. March Madness didn't impact things Yr 1, and the NBA didn't affect much Yr 1 either.

All the name fighters and big fights are on ShowTime. I feel like PBC is just a temporary plan to market fighters to fight on ShowTime at some point.

3 out of 4 PBC broadcasts are hard to watch. I mean...they're like Gotham bad. Cringeworthy commentary combined with mismatches make for sh1te television.

PBC was competing against the football seasons (NFL/NCAAF), which sops up the sports audience from everyone. Both sports basically wrap things up by the end of January, leaving the general sports calendar free from then into August. Garcia-Guerrero in January, Thurman-Porter in February, Jack-Chavez Jr in March, Wilder-Povetkin in April, Brook-Khan in May/June, and so on (filled in with a ton of other fight cards). January-August will likely be PBC season going forward. You say this now, but when the NBA starts with prime time games on Saturday nights on ABC and then March Madness comes, and then the NBA playoffs start, you'll be talking about the conflicts with basketball.

An increase interest in boxing from the general public or drown out the competition with better quality fights. Right now boxing is really a niche market, so it's either total dominance, or an increase in the market size.

There is always an excuse with you guys, always, at some point you just have to look at the falling ratings and be real. The first fight you mentioned is confirmed, every other one while great matchups are not confirmed. And if those fights were to be made it would be a great comeback for PBC, but knowing their matchmaking they probably won't. exactly. PBC debuted in March. Im not sure what football games they were competing against in April, May, June, July, and August lol

There is always an excuse with you guys, always, at some point you just have to look at the falling ratings and be real. The first fight you mentioned is confirmed, every other one while great matchups are not confirmed. And if those fights were to be made it would be a great comeback for PBC, but knowing their matchmaking they probably won't. when the numbers play out the way that most logical folks expect, I'd hope you'd have the confidence to still stand by your words here.

PBC was competing against the football seasons (NFL/NCAAF), which sops up the sports audience from everyone. Both sports basically wrap things up by the end of January, leaving the general sports calendar free from then into August. Garcia-Guerrero in January, Thurman-Porter in February, Jack-Chavez Jr in March, Wilder-Povetkin in April, Brook-Khan in May/June, and so on (filled in with a ton of other fight cards). January-August will likely be PBC season going forward. There is always an excuse with you guys, always, at some point you just have to look at the falling ratings and be real. The first fight you mentioned is confirmed, every other one while great matchups are not confirmed. And if those fights were to be made it would be a great comeback for PBC, but knowing their matchmaking they probably won't.

Somebody already said it. The key is consistency. One channel, one time slot every week or bi weekly. That allows the casual fans to tune into a channel weekly watch a fight but get to know he other fighters as they're promoted. Also keep your guys active. Danny Garcia doesn't have to fight big competition every time but he can stay active in between fights. Two big fights a year and 2 stay busy fights in between.

The plan for PBC is such a joke, the company doesn't even have a face to go with it. All that money and you Have no stars, no Dana White, nothing and no one to sell it to the masses. The only thing I associate PBC with, is overpaid black fighters who deliver crappy ratings. I can't for the life of me figure out how Haymon fooled these investors to give him the $, but IMO the guy who worked for the hedge fund and now works for PBC probably has a lot to do it. PBC was a scam from the beginning.

The audience is not growing though, ratings are declining. The Guerrero vs Garcia card is going to be important, but they need to be consistent. PBC was competing against the football seasons (NFL/NCAAF), which sops up the sports audience from everyone. Both sports basically wrap things up by the end of January, leaving the general sports calendar free from then into August. Garcia-Guerrero in January, Thurman-Porter in February, Jack-Chavez Jr in March, Wilder-Povetkin in April, Brook-Khan in May/June, and so on (filled in with a ton of other fight cards). January-August will likely be PBC season going forward.

The simple answer is continue to sell the ad spots during the broadcasts (Corona being the title sponsor for PBC likely skews the ad numbers a bit). Since that initial ~2 month stretch (where every PBC broadcast was filled largely with fighter profiles and PBC commercials), PBC has actually done a pretty bang up job at pushing product. As long as the audience continues to grow, PBC will be able to sell their ad spots at higher rates (PBC ad revenue ceiling, as far as I can tell, is generally the $300k per 30-second spot that NCAAF gets for primetime football). 60 30-second spots per show, $100k per spot, and you're looking at $6m in ad revenue to work around for a show. Note: the activity question fluctuates fighter to fighter, regardless of how you seem to feel about fighters like Danny Garcia (140 kingpin, budding NY/Puerto Rican star, etc). There have been plenty of PBC fighters who have been put in 4-7 fights this year. The audience is not growing though, ratings are declining. The Guerrero vs Garcia card is going to be important, but they need to be consistent.

What do we see now? 1. Most of the PBC fighters don't try to jump on the wave of popularity after successfull and action-packed fight. Like, Gary Russel Jr. for example had a noticeble knockout win over Gonzales. And whom did he fight next? The same TBAs! And this is the case for the most Haymon boxers. 2. Most boxers fight too seldom - 2 times a year. I can understand if such stars as Manny Pacquiao or Miguel Cotto fight 2 times a year, but even Danny Garcia isn't that popular to fight so seldom. 3. Many fighters are overpayed. How can undercard fighter Peter Quillin receive 1.5 million dollars? It's ridicuilos! On the one hand Haymon doesn't try to increase a popularity of his fighters, on the ther hand he is constantly overpaying them. And most fights are broadcasted by free TV. I can't see PBC becoming as popular, as UFC, and UFC consumes roughly 10 times less money. So, the question is, how can PBC become self-sufficient? What do you think? The simple answer is continue to sell the ad spots during the broadcasts (Corona being the title sponsor for PBC likely skews the ad numbers a bit). Since that initial ~2 month stretch (where every PBC broadcast was filled largely with fighter profiles and PBC commercials), PBC has actually done a pretty bang up job at pushing product. As long as the audience continues to grow, PBC will be able to sell their ad spots at higher rates (PBC ad revenue ceiling, as far as I can tell, is generally the $300k per 30-second spot that NCAAF gets for primetime football). 60 30-second spots per show, $100k per spot, and you're looking at $6m in ad revenue to work around for a show. Note: the activity question fluctuates fighter to fighter, regardless of how you seem to feel about fighters like Danny Garcia (140 kingpin, budding NY/Puerto Rican star, etc). There have been plenty of PBC fighters who have been put in 4-7 fights this year.