PBC failed miserably by not having Jacobs-Quillen on free tv.

That's my biggest issue with them. I love watching the free fights but they have the wackiest match making. One fight should lead to another but it seems some guys take one step forward and then 2 back fighting stiffs. No rhyme or reason sometimes... Haymon has consistently had that problem with matchmaking for his fighters. It's something he needs to figure out because you can see how it hurts his fighters. They don't have the constant progression that someone like Crawford has, or Alvarez.

it does seem weird considering the push for both on PBC, but whatevs. I assume there is still some obligation to Showtime to fulfill.

Yea, I absolutely agree about the PBC build-up strategy being a mess. They need to think about the storyline factor. That's my biggest issue with them. I love watching the free fights but they have the wackiest match making. One fight should lead to another but it seems some guys take one step forward and then 2 back fighting stiffs. No rhyme or reason sometimes...

I actually prefer that fight to be on Showtime. They can have their smaller fights and tune ups on regular TV, but when it comes to paid TV I want big fights. If not what's the point of paying the monthly fee for Showtime? Shameless and Homeland. The boxing is just a bonus

This is another problem with Haymon boxing at the moment. The promotion, whatever there is of it, is extremely ineffective. You have to really follow boxing to even have any idea when the fights are and what channel they're on. I will say that the All Access they did for this fight was terrific. I hear ya but I mean in the grand scheme of things. It's just weird to show Jacobs-Mora and Quillen against Lee and Zefara and talk about them meeting non stop then ship the fight over to showtime and not NBC. I'm not sure how many watched, has there been a number released yet? They promoted the hell out of it though, probably saw more promos for it then any other fight, even more then Mares-LSC. Yea, I absolutely agree about the PBC build-up strategy being a mess. They need to think about the storyline factor.

As do I because I'm not into the presentation on PBC and Showtime has a great crew of commentators. I cancelled my showtime late last year after they had no good fights. I don't think PBC presentation is too bad, but I do prefer the Showtime and HBO presentation, and as is I prefer bigger fights on the networks. I hope it's something that not only PBC, but GBP, TR, RN, and others adopt. Your fighters can have tune ups all they want on free TV, but when it comes to Showtime or HBO only big fights should take up that budget.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda! HBO should have put GGG/Lemeiux on regular HBO but didnt. Who cares the channel? It was a good matchup and like always i dont care if im the only one watching. Im sure if we use the power of hindsight we can say this about many many fights Don't get your Haymon thong in a bunch dude. If GGG and Lemieux had been showcased on Free tv all year then they took the fight to HBO I'd be wondering why just the same. i guess I just don't get the whole idea of building brands to casual fans then when they have "big" fights, shipping them off to pay tv.

Haymon prefers for bigger fights to be on network television when it won't conflict with football and for bigger fights to be on premium cable when it will conflict with football. Hardcore fight fans will watch whether it conflicts with a big college football game or not. But the ability to get mainstream sports fan, with a casual boxing interest, to tune in head to head with a big football game is very difficult, not to mention it being much more difficult to garner media attention.

I didn't exactly see the masses chattering about this one before it took place. I say a few stupid comments here about "hope they both KO each other", and that was it. We can look back and say it was significant but very few of us were actually looking forward to this one. I think it got whatever rating it did because it had no competition that night. I hear ya but I mean in the grand scheme of things. It's just weird to show Jacobs-Mora and Quillen against Lee and Zefara and talk about them meeting non stop then ship the fight over to showtime and not NBC. I'm not sure how many watched, has there been a number released yet? They promoted the hell out of it though, probably saw more promos for it then any other fight, even more then Mares-LSC.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda! HBO should have put GGG/Lemeiux on regular HBO but didnt. Who cares the channel? It was a good matchup and like always i dont care if im the only one watching. Im sure if we use the power of hindsight we can say this about many many fights

I didn't exactly see the masses chattering about this one before it took place. I say a few stupid comments here about "hope they both KO each other", and that was it. We can look back and say it was significant but very few of us were actually looking forward to this one. I think it got whatever rating it did because it had no competition that night. This is another problem with Haymon boxing at the moment. The promotion, whatever there is of it, is extremely ineffective. You have to really follow boxing to even have any idea when the fights are and what channel they're on. I will say that the All Access they did for this fight was terrific.

I actually prefer that fight to be on Showtime. They can have their smaller fights and tune ups on regular TV, but when it comes to paid TV I want big fights. If not what's the point of paying the monthly fee for Showtime? As do I because I'm not into the presentation on PBC and Showtime has a great crew of commentators. I cancelled my showtime late last year after they had no good fights.

I didn't exactly see the masses chattering about this one before it took place. I say a few stupid comments here about "hope they both KO each other", and that was it. We can look back and say it was significant but very few of us were actually looking forward to this one. I think it got whatever rating it did because it had no competition that night.

ah its is what it is, you have obligations etc you have to fullfill. He has to provide showtime with x amount of championship fights per year and blah blah blah what is he supposed to do renig on that. I dont care about the general public anymore when it comes to boxing, just give me the true boxing fan who been shelling out my money year after year for this sport (hbo,showtime,boxnation,skysports subscriptions and ppv etc) just give me some damn good fights doesnt matter where you put them I will find them! This is exactly how I feel. Those of us who actually pay for all this should be rewarded with good fights or good fighters. The tune ups can be put on the weather channel for all I care.

PBC is a total failure. Showtime was the best in 2013; they had stacked cards all the time. Apparently whomever it was that knew what the f*** they were doing is no longer working with Al. Now it's just about getting his guys the biggest paychecks for the littlest risk. We only get a decent fight here and there in order to keep us quiet for the next wave of embarrassing fights.

I actually prefer that fight to be on Showtime. They can have their smaller fights and tune ups on regular TV, but when it comes to paid TV I want big fights. If not what's the point of paying the monthly fee for Showtime?

All of it is attached to Showtime so its all the same thing