Wladimir Klitschko is not shot

Bump. Wladimir still beats every HW apart from Tyson Fury.

Yes, I've seen those fights and other Collins fights. He did take more punishment than Eubank. You overrate both Eubank and Benn for some reason. Eubank wasn't shot at age 27, he just was never all that good. He didn't look any different against Collins than he did against Benn. You say Eubank was shot at age 27 while anybody who says Klitschko is shot at age 40 is "stupid". It seems you are making an excuse for Eubank's losses to Collins, who you consider inferior. At the same time, because you are a Fury fan, you deny that Klitschko is a shot fighter so as to elevate Fury. Klitschko has been through 20 years of grueling training camps where he pushes himself to the limit, which included many hundreds of hours of sparring. He had many amateur fights before that. A human body can take only so much. Also, Klitschko was brutally stopped three times. I've watched all of Klitschko's fights, and it's been obvious to me he's slowing down for years. He's come to rely more and more on clinching and fighting at a distance, because he's not nearly as quick anymore. He still has power, but all his other skills have eroded. He's looked old and faded in recent fights, but the first fight he looked completely shot is the Fury fight. Klitschko just can't get the punches off anymore, not even against a big target like Fury. There's actually a big difference in the current shot age 40 version of Klitschko and the faster prime version. Here's the younger Klitschko: He definitely did not. Overrate them? Because I think they were better than Collins? They beat better fighters than Collins in their careers! Far far better! I didn't say he was shot, I said he was over the hill. He was shot against Carl Thompson. Obviously Klitschko isn't shot that's a completely laughable statement. He hasn't taken much punishment in 10 years. He's just not prime. As I've been saying for 3 years. There's a HUGE difference between being shot and being past your prime. Yeah I agree he's looked old and faded. Never didn't agree. Still wasn't shot.

Not shot, but definitely post-prime.

so you didn't read it, yet it was an embarrassing post with nothing worthwhile in it :lol1:? i demolished the idea that carl froch had a better career than andre ward. demolished it. it's a dumb thing to say, and you said it. on a beach in thailand doe was with the hookers doe but nah for real, brih, make sure the prostutites are standing in good light so you can check for an adams apple. some of them have pretty faces. Dude, no one thought you demolished anything :lol1: I saw that you wrote me a 10 paragraph post and the first 90% was centered around Bute - A guy ranked above Ward when Froch took him out. A guy Ward didn't want to fight. he crap doe. Delvin rodrigues doe. Froch has a deeper resume than Andre "tune-up" Ward.

Why is this guy suddenly talking about Eubank and Benn? :lol1: Almost as surreal as when he suggested I was a Johnny Nelson fanboy and then suggested that I was actually Johnny :rofl: Freedom. is seriously the most weird insecure cunt I've ever come across in any walk of life

There's actually a big difference in the current shot age 40 version of Klitschko and the faster prime version. Here's the younger Klitschko: So that's Prime Wlad? The guy who got flattened twice in quick succession :lol1:

Dude, I was on a beach in Thailand for one. Secondly, we were discussing who had the best resume of Ward and Froch, I listed Froch's best wins and asked you to list wards. In typical fashion you spent 6 paragraphs exclusively telling me why Bute was crap before bringing up the greatness of delvin Rodriguez or whatever 'tune up' fight Ward had that year. That's why I didn't read it. It was an embarrassing post. Yes and I responded to that bit - where's your response to mine. Again, you're comparing Wlad from 8-10 years ago to the one we've seen today, discounting everything that happened in between as if it never happened. You kind of alluding to Wlad being injured or being way too old, but he picked up his punch output a lot in the last couple of rounds. Hmm. Doesn't really go with your ideas. What standards exactly? I hear a lot of noise, but the words don't mean anything. Which standards have I changed exactly? I'm looking for it. Only an idiot will say Klitschko is shot. He's not in his prime anymore. We all knew that before the Fury fight :lol1: Only the Klitschko fans said he was the best he's ever been. I said he looked sluggish and slow for the last 2-3 years. But he was definitely not shot. That's the typical fickle mind of a boxing fan :lol1: so you didn't read it, yet it was an embarrassing post with nothing worthwhile in it :lol1:? i demolished the idea that carl froch had a better career than andre ward. demolished it. it's a dumb thing to say, and you said it. on a beach in thailand doe was with the hookers doe but nah for real, brih, make sure the prostutites are standing in good light so you can check for an adams apple. some of them have pretty faces.

Most of them, because of his come-forward style. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:4053 http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:6072 Ok you posted two boxrec sources. 2 long fights and what? Did you watch these fights? McCallum was dancing for most of the fight, gave an inexperienced collins a soapy eye, but it was in no way a beat down or a war. So why bring it up? It was a boxing lesson. And Reggie Johnson :lol1: Seriously. That was a cagey affair. So again, I'm asking in which fights Collins took anywhere near the punishment Benn and Eubank took off each other, Eubank in the Watson fights and Benn in one of the biggest wars of all times against McLellan and against Sugarboy Malinga? That just didn't happen, despite Collins having a come forward style.

Remember this post: So Benn was "worn out" and Collins was prime despite them being the same age? And age 27 Eubank was "over the hill" when he fought age 29 Collins (who had actually been in more wars and taken more punishment in his career because of his aggressive come-forward style)? But age 39 (nearly 40) Klitschko is not "worn out" or "over the hill" when he fights age 27 Fury? In which fights did Collins take a lot of punishment? Please elaborate on that. I don't think age has anything to do with it. Eubank had had a string of extremely bad performances where he should have taken losses before his fight with Collins. Benn had been in many wars. It's not all about age. I have said for a long time that Klitschko was past his prime. I have no problem with that - I said that before the Povetkin fight! But he's not shot. He hasn't been in any wars and hasn't taken anywhere near the amount of punishment the likes of Benn or Eubank had at the stages I was mentioning, despite being much younger than Klitschko. But it's just a credit to Klitschko that he managed to stay on top for so long.

are you not teh guy who told me he didn't read one of my posts about froch because it was too detailed? :lol1: i talked quite a bit about boxing in my posts. i typically do. now i'm "only trolling" because i say things based in reality that hurt your feelings? the fact taht you guys change your standards completely for british fighters and don't recognize it is going to become the running joke of NSB. fury fans appear to be the new fanboys. i don't expect it to last long, because fury isn't very good. didn't look great beating klitshcko, or anybody else. you and the brits can go ahead and be the only people who think klitshcko wasn't shot. he's at the very end of his career! you are the new cotto fans. enjoy it :lol1: Dude, I was on a beach in Thailand for one. Secondly, we were discussing who had the best resume of Ward and Froch, I listed Froch's best wins and asked you to list wards. In typical fashion you spent 6 paragraphs exclusively telling me why Bute was crap before bringing up the greatness of delvin Rodriguez or whatever 'tune up' fight Ward had that year. That's why I didn't read it. It was an embarrassing post. Yes and I responded to that bit - where's your response to mine. Again, you're comparing Wlad from 8-10 years ago to the one we've seen today, discounting everything that happened in between as if it never happened. You kind of alluding to Wlad being injured or being way too old, but he picked up his punch output a lot in the last couple of rounds. Hmm. Doesn't really go with your ideas. What standards exactly? I hear a lot of noise, but the words don't mean anything. Which standards have I changed exactly? I'm looking for it. Only an idiot will say Klitschko is shot. He's not in his prime anymore. We all knew that before the Fury fight :lol1: Only the Klitschko fans said he was the best he's ever been. I said he looked sluggish and slow for the last 2-3 years. But he was definitely not shot. That's the typical fickle mind of a boxing fan :lol1:

Unfortunately that image is seared into my soul for eternity..... i'd give you my instagram if i dind't think there was a slight chance you were a psycho. your kind can't get guns, or afford plane tickets, but you'd run an internet smear campaign to rule them all :lol1: how old are you, anyway? i've always been curious. annie is 43. no joke.

floyd mayweather's p4p run was a long, long time ago. how many times a day do you talk about my body? Unfortunately that image is seared into my soul for eternity.....

"Historically" :lol1: Must be hard clinging onto past glories with those dino-arms of yours. floyd mayweather's p4p run was a long, long time ago. how many times a day do you talk about my body?

that's definitely what this is. it's a manifestation of an inferiority complex. boxing in america is inferior to boxing in britain. it always has been! you guys have historically produced the better boxers, and it is no different today. fury was so f#cking good, and wladimir was so f#cking prime, that it's got me scared. i'm afraid. ross purrity and lamon brewster, who beat klitschko in his prime, are american jorneymen, but i've got some kind of inferiority complex because fury beat him when was 39 :lol1: am i insecure because he beat tony thompson and bryant jennings? two guys who started boxing when they were grown men? "Historically" :lol1: Must be hard clinging onto past glories with those dino-arms of yours.

Not only have you never watched Wladimir Klitschko fight but you apparently haven't read any of New England's posts either. The guy has developed an extremely unhealthy obsession with "trolling Brits lolz" over the past few years. disagreeing with people who think carl froch had a better career than andre ward is definitely trolling. are you not the guy who had a dome thread about his coke fueled, 48 hour, midweek tirade against american fighters? dirk....

My rhetoric is that I've watched Wladimir Klitschko for over a decade so I'm familiar with how he fights I know Fat Yanks have the attention span of goldfish and you especially have an inferiority complex when it comes to Brits achieving success in boxing but you're being disingenuous when you claim that Wladimir has dramatically changed. None of your fighters could get the job done so I understand your urge to downplay Fury's victory. Like I said, we'd never have heard the end of how great Beyonce Windmiller was if he'd beaten Wladimir. We still have to read you prattle on about Ward beating Froch. Froch must've been shot that night because he threw and landed far less punches than he did in other fights. Makes sense now. that's definitely what this is. it's a manifestation of an inferiority complex. boxing in america is inferior to boxing in britain. it always has been! you guys have historically produced the better boxers, and it is no different today. fury was so f#cking good, and wladimir was so f#cking prime, that it's got me scared. i'm afraid. ross purrity and lamon brewster, who beat klitschko in his prime, are american jorneymen, but i've got some kind of inferiority complex because fury beat him when was 39 :lol1: am i insecure because he beat tony thompson and bryant jennings? two guys who started boxing when they were grown men?

Obviously Wlad isn't prime, but he's no worse now than he was a year ago, when all the same fans calling him shot now were saying he was at his best because of knocking out a garbage fighter like Pulev.

Be the bigger man Dirk! All joking aside, this is boxing and no sport including boxing has it ever been a sport for the aging (aside from Golf). Klitchko is damn near 40 and to believe a near 40 year old man is the same physically as he was two years ago would be just moronic. What incredible physical feats was Wladimir pulling off two years ago? Leaning all over fat undersized bum Povetkin in one of the most god awful fights in the history of HW boxing?

Not only have you never watched Wladimir Klitschko fight but you apparently haven't read any of New England's posts either. The guy has developed an extremely unhealthy obsession with "trolling Brits lolz" over the past few years. Be the bigger man Dirk! All joking aside, this is boxing and no sport including boxing has it ever been a sport for the aging (aside from Golf). Klitchko is damn near 40 and to believe a near 40 year old man is the same physically as he was two years ago would be just moronic.

Now, you gotta pull Nationalism into the picture. That's pathetic! Not only have you never watched Wladimir Klitschko fight but you apparently haven't read any of New England's posts either. The guy has developed an extremely unhealthy obsession with "trolling Brits lolz" over the past few years.