Thought Whyte came across poorly there.
I always think he seems to be trying too hard and likes to act up. This whole 'we can step outside' nonsense is quite embarrassing, you're going to meet in the ring next week.
Yeah, the whole "step outside" thing is a bit weak at this point but Whyte has been saying that for over a year now. Well before the fight was on the radar he was saying that he dislikes Joshua and would "take care of him in the street" even though he's "not usually like that". Whyte has a genuine grudge because Joshua talked badly about him to the press, while Whyte thought they were cool so it stems from that situation. I think he basically feels he got stabbed in the back by Joshua which is why he keeps calling him a fake.
But at this point why risk a streetfight for no money when you're about to get paid to fight the same guy anyway, and you got 3 kids to feed too. I think partly he's just trying to spook Joshua at this point, or his anger about the situation is clouding his judgement.
Whyte dressing up as big purple there.
I might stick a bit on Whyte it is likely he connects with Joshua's chin at one point and he will have the will to put himself there. But Joshua looks the goods. But heavyweights....tough to ever be confident with them.
I don't think Joshua comes across as overly media trained. That documentary about him when he was saying hello and chatting to all the people from his neighbourhood young and old makes me think that he engages with them. This was Watford not Ireland or something. English people would just about speak to a stranger if one of them was on fire. Joshua seems like a good lad albeit one with a past but what is he meant to talk about that? Doubt he is a fake.
I think whyte has the beaten of AJ.
Whyte has slipped under the radar while people have jumped onto the AJ express and hype.
Whyte has a street mentality that can either go for him or against him.
i do believe he dosnt fear AJ one bit and genuinely dislikes him.
i think whyte has been overlooked alot and can shock alot of people on sat night.
"A skinny body builder" haha
Whyte could make it a very close fight, or even beat AJ, I agree. The problem I see with Whyte though is that he leaves his right side open and gets caught too much with his guard down, while plodding foward. It's a bad habit and I'm pretty sure Team Josh is aware of this so they'll train to time that opening. If he doesn't correct that mistake he could get taken out quick because AJ has the speed, timing and power to close the show but if Banks has spotted it and they correct it then it's a close fight IMO. Both fighters could hit the deck in this one!
I want to believe in joshua i really do. But how can you tell he is not just another fraudley harrison. He is built like a frank bruno but his physique worries me. Can you get that muscular without the roids?
Can't see even a prime Audley Harrison beating a past prime Kevin Johnson, especially becoming the first one to KO him. Joshua has a far better inside game than Harrison too, he can throw short shots with KO power which in itself is very rare for a HW his size, it's something both Wladimir and Fury aren't really capable of doing, although the smaller Haye is.
Joshua clearly has heart too and he ironically showed that in the Dillian Whyte amateur fight, he got knocked down multiple times but never quit and even came on strong after the knock downs at times.
Totally different fighter to Harrison, he'll go much further on the world scene IMO, even if Whyte beats him.
Maybe josh didn't give him the pants back that's why he's not too keen on josh.
But dillian getting koed, and once he's ko,ed he will be respectful and submissive and will shake Josh's hand all josh will have to do is give him the stare
I want to believe in joshua i really do. But how can you tell he is not just another fraudley harrison. He is built like a frank bruno but his physique worries me. Can you get that muscular without the roids?
I envision a time in the future when the British press turn on Joshua. Part of the issue for me is the national sentiment and media frenzy that entwined around Team GB's success during the London Olympics. Most of that was centred around the achievements of the female boxers which was read as being progressive for women. Female participation in the sport boomed after that. Nicola Adams and Natasha Jonas in particular set the tone as to what was expected of the whole squad in terms of conduct, back story and beaming smile, ever so appreciative, grateful personality.
But along with that came a level of slightly coy patronising condesention on the part of the press. "Didn't the girls do well!" The fact that they're boxers first and foremost became lost but the upside of that is that it made them more accessible and sellable to the sections of the British public that look down on boxing as largely a brutish pastime.
Luke Campbell, with the disarming features of a twelve year old paperboy readily fit into this emasculated soft lense vision that was being trained on the sport. Joshua seems to have done what was asked of him to fit in with that but dispite his best efforts has always looked like a square peg being forced into a round hole.
As long as he toes the line and jumps through hoops for the press he'll be tolerated. As soon as he doesn't those stories from his youth that they're sitting on will start to be written up as exposes. He doesn't strike me as the kind of man who suffers fools gladly. That doesn't bode well when dealing with the tabloid press.
On a side note, sometimes you have to wonder what goes through Johnny Nelson's head that prompts him to ask a young, physically powerful black man from the streets of London who his paymasters are trying to promote to the wider public as a PPV attraction whether he used to knock people out in the streets!?! . . He needed his arse handed to him for that.
I think AJs been pretty open about his past misdemeanors. It's not really a secret.
But I agree, the media will turn on him as soon as he starts to be more himself and less of the choir boy, as will the people. The public is fickle. yet if he keeps bringing the KOs, people will keep tuning in and buying future PPVs. I like how we the "civilised" people look down on boxing yet are drawn to it's darkest attractions.
London has rarely seen crowds the way we saw them when Tyson arrived, he was bigger than the pope. Yet we all loved bringing up his crimes and character defects (while lining our pockets with the millions he brought to the table).
That's just the way of western society.
Anthony Joshua says security stopped a physical confrontation with Dillian Whyte
Anthony Joshua has admitted that he had to be separated from bitter rival Dillian Whyte as tensions boiled over during the 'Gloves Are Off'.
The feuding heavyweights came face-to-face on Sky Sports ahead of their eagerly awaited grudge fight on December 12, live on Sky Sports Box Office.
Joshua and Whyte could not contain their emotions as Johnny Nelson chaired an intense interview and security were forced to prevent a physical confrontation, bringing a dramatic halt to filming.
oshua told Sky Sports News HQ: "Quite intense. There couldn't be a part two, because I don't think all of it was aired out and the beef between me and Dillian - so there couldn't be a part two.
"But it was good, it got people interested and now they have got to tune into the fight to see what that's about."
"There is a fight when you have got to stay cool, calm and relaxed and then you have to sit across the table with someone that you don't really get along with and that's where you are really going to see that animosity and that atmosphere is going to be bad energy. There was bad energy in the air and that's what the 'Gloves Are Off' was about.
"I was expecting there to be a dust-up in the Sky Sports courtyard. Shout out to the security, they did a job and kept us apart. We did have a bit of a square off, a few words off camera as we were leaving. We had a few words to say to each other.
Asked who intervened, Joshua said: "Security and friends. Not majorly but just woah woah, be easy. You've got a fight scheduled and that's what you've got to focus on."
Promoter Eddie Hearn admitted that Joshua was stopped from having an altercation with Whyte, but expects him to keep his composure when the first bell rings.
"People ask if he lost his rag on Gloves Are Off. I think he was ready to fight but other than that I've not noticed any emotion in this camp - it's been the same as other camps," said Hearn.
"It's a dangerous fight as it is so to bring emotion into it would make it a very dangerous fight.
"It was heated. They had to be separated in the corridor afterwards. It was personal - this fight is personal. It was an intense environment, sitting so close for an hour. It was as close to boiling point as you're going to get."
Whyte has also shed light on the highly charged encounter with Joshua and believes a bad-tempered clash was inevitable.
He holds an amateur victory over Joshua and has suggested this defeat still irritates the Olympic gold medallist.
"We had a very good, heated conversation," Whyte told Sky Sports. "It was relaxed at times and at times it was heated.
"Clearly we don't like each other and when you put two men in a room that genuinely don't like each other, it's always going to get heated.
"Since we fought as amateurs in 2009, I've always been under his skin. If somebody had beaten me, they'd always be under my skin until I got revenge."
Dillian's wrong here, I have known AJ for quite some time, we've hung out .Yes he isn't as...I dunno, I guess the word would be polished away from the cameras as he in front of the cameras BUT we're all different in professional environments i.e. I'm very different in lectures than I am with my mates. AJs just the same But he isn't "fake" as Dillian eluded too.
However, Dillian stole the show here. He was so damn funny, with his Jamaican twang and calling AJ for a street fight lol. I've really started to like him over the last few months.
I envision a time in the future when the British press turn on Joshua. Part of the issue for me is the national sentiment and media frenzy that entwined around Team GB's success during the London Olympics. Most of that was centred around the achievements of the female boxers which was read as being progressive for women. Female participation in the sport boomed after that. Nicola Adams and Natasha Jonas in particular set the tone as to what was expected of the whole squad in terms of conduct, back story and beaming smile, ever so appreciative, grateful personality.
But along with that came a level of slightly coy patronising condesention on the part of the press. "Didn't the girls do well!" The fact that they're boxers first and foremost became lost but the upside of that is that it made them more accessible and sellable to the sections of the British public that look down on boxing as largely a brutish pastime.
Luke Campbell, with the disarming features of a twelve year old paperboy readily fit into this emasculated soft lense vision that was being trained on the sport. Joshua seems to have done what was asked of him to fit in with that but dispite his best efforts has always looked like a square peg being forced into a round hole.
As long as he toes the line and jumps through hoops for the press he'll be tolerated. As soon as he doesn't those stories from his youth that they're sitting on will start to be written up as exposes. He doesn't strike me as the kind of man who suffers fools gladly. That doesn't bode well when dealing with the tabloid press.
On a side note, sometimes you have to wonder what goes through Johnny Nelson's head that prompts him to ask a young, physically powerful black man from the streets of London who his paymasters are trying to promote to the wider public as a PPV attraction whether he used to knock people out in the streets!?! . . He needed his arse handed to him for that.
Yeah, actually Whyte's main problem with this is when Joshua was called out on what he said, he blamed the reporter instead of admitting what he said. Probably to keep his image of the nice guy rather than talking negatively about people. So Whyte said he's a coward for blaming someone else for what he said.
He is very media trained. I believe Whyte when he says Joshua is nothing like he shows.
I do think Joshua is somewhat different in real life to his media personality, but most people including and especially the guy who was interviewing them, Johnny Nelson, are very different in person to their media persona.
I've seen a few interviews with Johnny Nelson on IFL TV Youtube channel where he's swearing, joking about, chilling, and he's totally different to how he appears as a commentator/interviewer on Sky Sports (although he's good at his job no doubt).
I think you're right, Dillian doesn't understand why Joshua is presenting himself that way to the public, he just thinks he's "faking" when really he's trying to maximize his appeal and ultimately maximize his income, doing what a prizefighter is supposed to do I guess.
Whyte has a small head...he's getting KOd.
Just what I was thinking and a thin neck, but shouldn't judge a book by its cover
The whole beef stems from Joshua talking negatively about Whyte to a reporter. Whyte got offended because they must have at least been friends of some sort if Joshua has borrowed his trousers to go clubbing one night n the past. That's why Whyte keeps calling him a fake because Joshua spoke badly to the press about him. Regardless of whether you like or dislike Whyte, it was actually Joshua who cast the first stone (other than Whyte beating him in the ams).
Where is that interview with AJ talking badly that might explain it better than Dillian can?
But Dillian was just a name to me, now he is a gangata with a name. But I was wondering what I lent him my trousers was all about? I didn't know they went partying together I thought they just fought each other as amatuers.
agree with everything thats been said so far
dillian is just weird with the whole "lets take this outside, lets do this now, just me and you" act he's got going on. you're fighting next week you pleb
joshua is boring as fk. bores me to sleep listening to him
they're no tyson fury that's for sure
tyson can entertain without coming across like a hoodrat
After finishing watching this,
AJ is shook a bit by dillian i think,
i think its his house he has to watch if he wins haha
seems like whyte will send someone or himself to burn the place hahaha
I think whyte has the beaten of AJ.
Whyte has slipped under the radar while people have jumped onto the AJ express and hype.
Whyte has a street mentality that can either go for him or against him.
i do believe he dosnt fear AJ one bit and genuinely dislikes him.
i think whyte has been overlooked alot and can shock alot of people on sat night.
"A skinny body builder" haha