Respect to Fury for actually getting the job done but Wlad had nothing and has always been a one dimensional and limited good fighter. Wilder would have taken more risks and eventually would have connected. Wlad was terrified of Fury, imagine if he had been facing Wilder? I'm not saying Wilder is some great fighter, actually give the edge to Fury to beat him, but it's a style match up thing and he would have KO'd Wlad in dramatic fashion.
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Wilder doesn't have the footwork, feints, head movement, lateral movement, counter punching ability that Fury has.
The fight wasn't pretty, but Fury fought in a way needed to win against Wlad. I don't feel Wilder can fight in such a way.
I don't think anybody thinks that Wilder will try to fight Wlad the way that Fury did. Fury beat Wlad in an ugly, horribly low activity fight where he did the bare minimum to win as Wlad was forced to do virtually nothing. I give full credit to Fury, but this thread isn't solely about him, Wlad has been looking vulnerable for a while but it didn't matter with the sorry fighters he was facing. Wilder would be looking for the kill since opening bell, probably taking damage himself until he gets to Klits who would eventually fold or hold for dear life every round.
As has Fury when you look at his past victories...
Here's Fury chance to put up or shut up, Wilder is willing to go to UK for him does Fury want to risk his first title defense where he could easily lose?
Wilder is PBC's premier fighter. Haymon will not take the risk in letting him go the UK, with his belt.
It's all smoke and mirrors from bum squad as per.
Maybe but no guts no glory, Wilder has been content feasting on bums.
As has Fury when you look at his past victories...
Here's Fury chance to put up or shut up, Wilder is willing to go to UK for him does Fury want to risk his first title defense where he could easily lose?
35 fights 34 KO's, Wilder doesn't coast and If you don't coast and you go to war with a fighter you can get hit and hurt just like Bradley has been cut up and bruised up against lesser fighters.
Wilder goes to war with Fury and KO's him easy.
35 fights, 34 bums. If Wilder decides to go to war with Fury, he'll find that he's a completely different animal to the likes of that French dude and Eric Molina.
Look what that bum did to his face lol.
35 fights 34 KO's, Wilder doesn't coast and If you don't coast and you go to war with a fighter you can get hit and hurt just like Bradley has been cut up and bruised up against lesser fighters.
Wilder goes to war with Fury and KO's him easy.
The guys getting in there, through the endless training, through fight night after fight night, are cowards but some bytch ass geek on a forum is fit to judge their courage.
It's sometimes embarrassing to post here when I realize some of the company I'm amongst...
I won't call him a coward if I was to judge on a human level, but in terms of saying he is a coward vs Wlad, I am happy to say that if he starts shouting his mouth off now. When you had the chance, you didn't even try to make that fight, and when the man you didn't want loses, you talk? That's cowardice.
Respect to Fury for actually getting the job done but Wlad had nothing and has always been a one dimensional and limited good fighter. Wilder would have taken more risks and eventually would have connected. Wlad was terrified of Fury, imagine if he had been facing Wilder? I'm not saying Wilder is some great fighter, actually give the edge to Fury to beat him, but it's a style match up thing and he would have KO'd Wlad in dramatic fashion.
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Wlad was scared of Tyson's reach, height, size and being beaten to the jab. Not his power. Wilder would have got jabbed all night.
Answer me this fuckboy, are Brewster, Purrity, and Sanders ATGs? Absolutely not, yet they stopped Wlad. I'm not saying that Wilder is a future great, the kid is good but highly limited, all l'm saying is he could probably stop this old, gun shy version of Wlad. As l said, it's a style match up discussion, nothing to do with overall careers. Old greats sometimes take bad losses to young opponents who will never be ranked higher than them when their careers are finished, it happens in boxing.
Those guys you named have the distinction of actually having fought Klitschko.
There's no way of saying that Wilder would have done any better than Fury did against Klitschko's negative tactics. For all I know maybe Wilder himself gets knocked out of that one.
Give credit to people that actually went out and accomplished things, not people that refused to try.
Yeah...I suppose...I don't know. Would you call Wilder an ATG if he KO'd Wlad?
Really?
So has Fury's decision over the same Wlad transformed him into an ATG?
Nah, I'm not havin' it.
OP did not claim Wilder is Ali. You are fabricating an implication based on your assessment of Wlad.
Yeah bro, this guy probably hasn't been watching enough boxing to understand that old greats sometimes get taken out by younger guys who won't go on to have a career as great as the guy they whooped. Nobody ranks Tarver over Roy, Norris over Leonard, D. Williams over Tyson, ect. Hell, nobody ranks Sanders and Brewster over Wlad after they both destroyed him lol. This guy just doesn't like the idea of his precious Wlad losing to a loud mouth American.
Wlad is a first-ballot HOF fighter and I'll happily put my money behind that assessment.
OP claimed Wilder would make easy work of Wlad, which is ridiculous overhype. He didn't fight Klitschko, nobody was making threads like this a week ago. Now all of a sudden the heavyweight champ would be easy work for Wilder. That may not be calling him an ATG but it's not that far away from saying that..
Answer me this fuckboy, are Brewster, Purrity, and Sanders ATGs? Absolutely not, yet they stopped Wlad. I'm not saying that Wilder is a future great, the kid is good but highly limited, all l'm saying is he could probably stop this old, gun shy version of Wlad. As l said, it's a style match up discussion, nothing to do with overall careers. Old greats sometimes take bad losses to young opponents who will never be ranked higher than them when their careers are finished, it happens in boxing.
Wlad is a first-ballot HOF fighter and I'll happily put my money behind that assessment.
OP claimed Wilder would make easy work of Wlad, which is ridiculous overhype. He didn't fight Klitschko, nobody was making threads like this a week ago. Now all of a sudden the heavyweight champ would be easy work for Wilder. That may not be calling him an ATG but it's not that far away from saying that.
And as for Fury, a win over Klitschko is HUGE for his career and it could be the first building block in an ATG legacy... so when people then say "oh but this other guy who was too scared of Klitschko (and Fury) to fight them would have actually done an easier job of it," it reeks of overhype, not to mention discrediting the quality of the win for the man that actually went out and got it.
Respect to Fury for actually getting the job done but Wlad had nothing and has always been a one dimensional and limited good fighter. Wilder would have taken more risks and eventually would have connected. Wlad was terrified of Fury, imagine if he had been facing Wilder? I'm not saying Wilder is some great fighter, actually give the edge to Fury to beat him, but it's a style match up thing and he would have KO'd Wlad in dramatic fashion.
We're done here.
Yeah...I suppose...I don't know. Would you call Wilder an ATG if he KO'd Wlad?
Really?
So has Fury's decision over the same Wlad transformed him into an ATG?
Nah, I'm not havin' it.
OP did not claim Wilder is Ali. You are fabricating an implication based on your assessment of Wlad.
Wlad is a first-ballot HOF fighter and I'll happily put my money behind that assessment.
OP claimed Wilder would make easy work of Wlad, which is ridiculous overhype. He didn't fight Klitschko, nobody was making threads like this a week ago. Now all of a sudden the heavyweight champ would be easy work for Wilder. That may not be calling him an ATG but it's not that far away from saying that.
And as for Fury, a win over Klitschko is HUGE for his career and it could be the first building block in an ATG legacy... so when people then say "oh but this other guy who was too scared of Klitschko (and Fury) to fight them would have actually done an easier job of it," it reeks of overhype, not to mention discrediting the quality of the win for the man that actually went out and got it.