There's no doubt that Wlad's age is a factor in his performances. He was looking noticeably slower and sloppier as far back as the Pianeta fight, but was still able to box the socks off his opponents with his sharp and punishing jab that no one was really able to take away. When he fought someone who could, in Fury, his whole game fell apart and he was exposed as the limited (albeit brilliant in his narrow style) fighter that I've long suspected he was.
Put him in the ring against someone who can't take away his jab and watch the old Klitschko magically return. That's assuming this loss hasn't messed with his confidence, which I'm sure it has.
Yeah you are probably right i dont know for sure. Its no secret that Wlad used his height and reach advantage as his primary tools to win fights. he wasn't winning based on activity. Personally if i look at the Fury fight, nothing really happened in that fight. Fury just outdid wlad a little bit each round (most of the rounds), these weren't crazy rounds where one guy was doing a lot more than the other guy. The only truly dominant rounds were 11 and 12... (11 for Fury and 12 for Klitschko). Can klistchko come back and just be more aggressive and not worry about taking shots... maybe but i just don't know if he will win if he can't increase his production and at 250 lbs and 40 years of age i just don't see it... good win for Fury, lets see what he does with it.
I'll be honest, i always supported klitschko because he is a standup character but i stopped watching his fights pretty much after the banks fight. He was my favorite fighter but after his transformation he became too boring for me to watch. So even though i always wanted him to win i didn't always watch his fights live, it was more so reading about it that same day or catch highlights.
His style is boring but it seems like his production of punches is extremely low and i dont think it is too do with Fury being this amazing elusive fighter or because fury is bigger, though i am sure a small portion is attributed to that. I think that it is simply just age. Wlad always had stamina issues, you can only imagine how his stamina is now being almost 40 years old.
That being said he was one of the most dominating heavyweight (and even non-heavyweight) champions of all time. His story (i.e come back from pretty much a dead career to go on one of the longest runs as a champion)is truly stuff of legends ... too bed his fights aren't.
If he comes back and beats Fury and retires he is truly top 5 heavyweights of all time (at least in my eyes) but even if he doesn't he had a very strong career and time to move on and enjoy life.
There's no doubt that Wlad's age is a factor in his performances. He was looking noticeably slower and sloppier as far back as the Pianeta fight, but was still able to box the socks off his opponents with his sharp and punishing jab that no one was really able to take away. When he fought someone who could, in Fury, his whole game fell apart and he was exposed as the limited (albeit brilliant in his narrow style) fighter that I've long suspected he was.
Put him in the ring against someone who can't take away his jab and watch the old Klitschko magically return. That's assuming this loss hasn't messed with his confidence, which I'm sure it has.
I'll be honest, i always supported klitschko because he is a standup character but i stopped watching his fights pretty much after the banks fight. He was my favorite fighter but after his transformation he became too boring for me to watch. So even though i always wanted him to win i didn't always watch his fights live, it was more so reading about it that same day or catch highlights.
His style is boring but it seems like his production of punches is extremely low and i dont think it is too do with Fury being this amazing elusive fighter or because fury is bigger, though i am sure a small portion is attributed to that. I think that it is simply just age. Wlad always had stamina issues, you can only imagine how his stamina is now being almost 40 years old.
That being said he was one of the most dominating heavyweight (and even non-heavyweight) champions of all time. His story (i.e come back from pretty much a dead career to go on one of the longest runs as a champion)is truly stuff of legends ... too bed his fights aren't.
If he comes back and beats Fury and retires he is truly top 5 heavyweights of all time (at least in my eyes) but even if he doesn't he had a very strong career and time to move on and enjoy life.
You're too dim to understand what I was saying fanboy. He chose not to because he was too scared of what could come back at him. But there was plenty of chances that another fighter would have taken advantage of. Wlad is just not that type of fighter anymore. Combine that with the difficulties fury presented and you see the result. I'm not diminishing fury's win. Settle down fella.
My apologies. I didn't mean to insult your intelligence and actually thought about editing the post to remove that bit. It's just that this is the third time in about ten minutes I've read something along these lines and I'm getting a bit sick of it. Fury boxed beautifully and didn't give Wlad an inch of breathing room. The "plenty of chances" Wlad could have taken advantage of were few and far between, virtually nonexistent. Fury was in control the whole time, even when he was clowning, hands down. Wlad knew that which was why he didn't fall for the easy traps.
Sure he could have bulled forward at any time and maybe caught Fury with something wild, but he might just as likely have exposed himself and got knocked out. In fact, given how good Fury is at counter puncher it was far more likely he would have got caught. He took a tactical decision to remain safe in the hopes of turning the tide and opening Fury up to power punches later on.
When that didn't manifest itself he did go a bit wild and got clocked for his trouble. Had that happened earlier in the fight it would have spelled bad news for him. Wlad's professionalism lost him the fight. He was so reticent to throw wild shots that he ended up not throwing any. Put him in the ring with someone who can't take away his jab and watch the same Wlad who's dominated over the division for a decade.
I don't think he means that first sentence literally.
If you look at the full context while keeping the second sentence in mind, you will see that he's expressing his inability to admit his loss. i.e; he knows that he lost but he hasn't been able to process it.
He seems mentally destroyed...
Boxing isn't easy. To be a good fighter, a champ, you have to put your ego in the sport. And when you lose, when you lose your titles (what defines you), it can be devastating.
Wlad needs a good support system around him, otherwise he will go deep in depression (Kelly Pavlik...)
Urgh, no he didn't. Why are boxing fans so dim?
You're too dim to understand what I was saying fanboy. He chose not to because he was too scared of what could come back at him. But there was plenty of chances that another fighter would have taken advantage of. Wlad is just not that type of fighter anymore. Combine that with the difficulties fury presented and you see the result. I'm not diminishing fury's win. Settle down fella.
Pretty honest reflection you rarely hear from athletes. There was plenty of opportunities for him to throw punches and clock fury, he just chose not to.
Urgh, no he didn't. Why are boxing fans so dim?
i don't think wladimir is going to take the rematch. i think he's done fighting.
he doesn't need money. he's got avenues for a fulfilling life after boxing. i hope he gets out. dude couldn't keep himself from clinching. he's done.
It was a dreadful offensive showing from Wlad. As usual he was hard to hit but that's not quite enough. I always like seeing the tables turned on negative fighters. When someone forces them to lead and initiate offence their dominance goes up in smoke.
Fair play for his honesty. I do expect him to be better in the rematch but stylistically I really struggle to see how he wins this fight, he'd have to change how he's fought for the last 10 years and open up and take risks which it just doesn't feel like he wants to do vs someone as awkward and tall as Fury.
If wlad tries to go back to the way he fought (pre brewster), and I feel this is his only chance, then I think he stands a good chance. BUT... Fury showed he can keep a high tempo with good head and foot movement for at least the first 4/5 rounds.
Fury will prove too elusive in the rematch and the outcome will be the same, possibly even a stoppage, whatever wlads game plan.
He shouldn't feel too bad, someone send him the footage of Holm vs Rousey. He will see what a real devastating upset looks like. You won't be seeing any gifs of Wlad getting pummeled or TKO, cause that's not what happened. The gifs are just of Fury doing Roy Jones and some Ali impersonations, and I don't mean punches, just dancing around :lol1:
Wlad really should not feel too bad, it was a terrible fight where no one got even the slightest bit hurt. Maybe momentarily shook in one round and that's it, nothing gif worthy like the Ronda fight.
Brewster was so shot for the rematch. Blind in one eye, Brewster took the rematch for retirement money because he could no longer get a license in America.
so why was not Klit shot from the KO from Brewster? could it be Klit was a lot better and more durable