It's the first time Wladimir has fought someone who was the same size (or bigger) who had very astute boxing skills as well as speed, movement and youth. While Fury isn't necessarily always fluid and smooth with his work, he does have a much more diverse skill set compared to Wlad. Being able to switch from righty to lefty for example, very fast feet for a big guy, upper body and head movement, punch variation, slickness (although "ponderous slickness" might be a better description) etc..
Did Fury expose Wladimir for being the "robotic", "predictable" boxer that many have labelled him in the past - David Haye being probably the most publicly visible critic.
Has Wladimir Klitschko been exposed?
Im giving Fury all the credit in the world...no excuses needed he is almost 40 right?
But you're not though.
The first thing you said was that Klitschko was old. You've been banging on about how easy this was going to be for Klitschko for months. I've seen it.
So don't mention age. Fury just was the better man. Simple as that.
He let others know how clearly Wlad telegraphs his leaping left hook.
People were trying to tell me he doesn't telegraph it when he couldn't miss Pulev with it.
Only difference was that Pulev's Defense is terrible and Fury's isn't. He was clearly telegraphing it against Pulev just as he was last night.
To be fair to wlad he only went to that punch out of desperation, and was actually able to land it a couple times. Fury was far from impressive imo. He looked tense and was expending a lot of energy with his overly twitchy feints, he's lucky wlad didn't have the balls to push the pace. Usually the guy with the shorter straighter punches gets the better of exchanges. If wlad didn't have such a conservative temperament, I'd pick him to win in a rematch. Then again, he woulda probably won the fight in the first place if that wasn't the case.
Jennings is a skilled boxer too, like Fury. I think that just goes further to prove the point. Even Tony Thompson showed certain skills at times which befuddled Wladimir in the first fight back in '08 - not consistently but at times. The difference with Fury though is that he's bigger and stronger than Jennings and younger and fitter than Thompson. He put the skills, size, speed and youth together (for the first time Wladimir ever had to face that combination) and Wladimir just didn't have the skillset to deal with it.
Thompson yes...if he was younger he would beat Vlad imo. Jennings, not so much. He fights in a manner suggesting he has a big punch and he doesn't. He fought to last...He was right on the end of Vlad's jab all night...this works when you have the footwork of a guy like Frazier and can walk in and punch, it does not work when you have to be stationary to punch your opponent.
Thompson is a paid opponent. If he trained really hard, was a few years younger, he would be very good. Odanier Solis is another one who coulda been a contenda!
Both of you claimed Wlad was going to flatten Fury.
Stop making excuses. Pathetic.Im giving Fury all the credit in the world...no excuses needed he is almost 40 right?
No..you don't expose someone how was champ for 10 years. We all know what kind of fighters Wlad is and he was just so used to fighting smaller guys and being able to jab and lean on them to tire them out.
Fury also had a rhythm going which threw Wlad off rhythm. Fury is not a GREAT talent but he maximized his physical abilities and had a great gameplan/rhythm going.
That being said...he would lose to Ortiz, Wilder, and Joshua
Likely not. Lance Armstrong was exposed. People took the new sh*t that came to light, retrospectively assessed his achievements and formed a new opinion on what had gone before.
For me this just affirms what no amount of acumulated statistics can distract from. Wladimir's safety first over cautious mindset stifled any potential that he had to excel at his craft. He held on for dear life with his stunted skill set in the poorest heavyweight era in living memory.
For others he's a dominant top five of all time P4P long standing champion who couldn't outrun Father Time.
I'd say we need a large volume shift of opinion for it to constitute an exposure. What we have here are hard heads continuing to butt up against each other. Same as yesterday.
Just for the fact that he has zero inside game is enough to say that he got exposed badly.
In the last 10 years, nobody could get near him on the inside due to his continual grabbing, hugging and decent jab. As soon as he fights someone who he can't grab, hug and jab, an inside game would have seen him through this fight. He doesn't have one and that's why he got badly exposed for the limited fighter that he is. No Heavyweight champion should be lacking an inside game. It's a crucial tool to wearing out your opponent but due to his glass jaw, Klit grabbed and hugged to protect it instead of going to the body.
4 body punches on Fury in a 12 round fight is a disgusting return for s Heavyweight Champion. All the greats of the past would not let that happen.
To lose to a fighter like Fury just shows how basic a fighter he is and that the Klitlickers overrated him to stupid levels.
Fury exposed Klit.
Did Kovalev "expose" Hopkins?
You take away a lot from both fighters like that.
Kovalev is simply a phenomenal fighter and Hopkins couldn't win forever. Nobody exposed anyone.
"It's the first time Wladimir has fought someone who was the same size (or bigger) who had very astute boxing skills as well as speed, movement and youth."
People are acting like this is a common thing. Maybe 3 guys on planet earth have ever fit that description really. I don't see how that's being exposed.
If he lost to a guy who was "dumb, slow, unable to box, moves poorly and pushing 60" that would be exposed. This is just an aging fighter losing his title after 10 years.
He didn't get exposed, he just lost. You don't go undefeated for 11 years and hold all but one of the major belts and then get exposed. Wlad is old but he got beat fair and square, full credit to Tyson.
No but big John Mcdermott exposed Fury long time ago.
You obviously didn't see the rematch.
Fury not only exposure Wlad as a fighter, but team Fury exposed Team Wlad from the gloves to the canvas debacle.
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Loooooool. That's nothing new here to be fair. Pick a fighter to win, then refuse to give credit to the opponent when he doesn't.
I expected Wlad to win, so there's nothing left to do but give Fury all the credit in the world for pulling it off.
Wlad can't box and just abuses his size on smaller guys, he does more holding then actual boxing. Wilder would have done the same thing to him if not worse if they fought.
Ok - If you could tell that before then fine. Most of the posters on this site didn't give Fury a shot and now they're all experts saying they knew Wlad's limitations etc etc.
So I would strongly say he was exposed for his limitations. Even though a handful might have seen it already.
I don't like this whole 'Wladimir was shot' drivel. Fury performed well - but it was by no means a masterclass.
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It's really messed up that the same people calling Wlad the best heavyweight ever, p4p #1, and still near prime a month ago are quick to say he's shot now. If Wlad had fought some bum like Leapai instead of Fury, he would have gotten a KO and those same people would have said he's still at his best.