The Brits have taken the sport of boxing by storm!

Not really. Fury is THE heavyweight champion. Wilder has a paper belt which really means little. I agree with you, Tyson is The HW champion. He inherited the lineage from Klitschko. But what he isn't is the undisputed HW champion of the world. That not me saying that he isn't the best, because in my opinion he is but he still can't call himself the Undisputed HW champion of the world under the official definition.

If you want to argue over definitions of a concept, sure Tyson Fury isnt the Undisputed Champion (notice the capital letter) But he is the undisputed World Heavyweight Champion Theres no dispute as to who the champion is That's subjective, but if he want's to be The Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the world, he has to go get that belt from Wilder. If you want to be subjective then there's no stopping anyone from calling themselves the undisputed World Heavyweight Champion. John Mcdermott could be calling himself that title for all we know but until someone wins all the belts and makes it official, then it still remains disputed.

Yes there has. His name was Wlad. Neither Wlad or Vitali were EVER the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

Fury is the real Lineal Champion, His name already up on the cyber lineal paper http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/pastchp.htm http://i.imgur.com/VKbbs4T.png

Techliam - So your position is that it's a coincidence that WBC champions earn more money on average than other champions? Or is it because the WBC caters to the biggest stars? You can't seem to make up your mind. But if the WBC caters to the biggest stars, and therefore WBC champions earn the most money, and it's been that way decade after decade for 50 years, how can you deny that the WBC belt is the most prestigious and lucrative? As for the definition of "undisputed champion," the term was invented to mean a champion with recognition from EVERY recognized organization. You're entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts. I'm sorry if you don't like the definition of undisputed champion, but there's nothing either one of us can do about it. No WBC belt, no undisputed status. Doesn't mean Fury isn't the clear #1 fighter in boxing now. Just means he has one belt to go to be the undisputed champion of the world.

The undisputed heavyweight champion of the world is currently a Brit. There are soo many major British world champions and high ranking contenders in every division that they seem to be taking over the entire sport, with momentum! British boxing is flying possibly the highest its ever flown in its history. There are many many fighters in Britain that can sell out a 20,000 seat arena with ease, the sport is literally flying at the minute. The Brits are lit right about now. Can't even front.

Techliam - If there are very few people who recognize the WBC as the most prestigious and lucrative championship in boxing, how do you explain the biggest fights and purses throughout boxing history being for the WBC title far more often than any other? If it's only a few Mexicans that consider the WBC belt the most important of the four, how do you explain Mike Tyson spending $5 million for a step aside fee just to remain WBC champion for one more fight? How do you explain over $12 million being bid for Klitschko-Rahman? How do you explain Lennox Lewis throwing his other belts in the garbage, but keeping his WBC belt? How do you explain Floyd Mayweather devoting his entire career to the WBC, ensuring the WBC belt was being fought for in the most lucrative fights in history? How do you explain GGG, who already had a recognized title, wanting to fight for the WBC's interim championship? And Cotto being willing to spend $925,000 just to remain WBC champion for a couple more weeks? How do you explain Corrie Sanders throwing the WBO heavyweight title in the garbage to fight for the *vacant* WBC title? I'm not saying the WBC is head and shoulders above the others, but facts are facts. A WBC champion, on average, is going to make more money than the champion of another organization. The WBC has done the best job of marketing their "green belt" and has done the best job of trying to make sure they are involved in the biggest fights. . Sorry pal, but you said it yourself with 'historically'. Maybe they were, that's your opinion. But the WBC certainly isn't the most prestigious now. If fighters were vacating other titles left and right to fight for the WBC, you may be right. But they aren't. They are all equal in base value - you can call yourself a 'world champion', but their worth is only an extention of the fighter who holds it... which covers nearly all of your examples. Lets look at them: Mike Tyson paying step aside - why did Mike vacate the WBC to face the WBA champion in Holyfield? Do you think it was perhaps due to him reluctant to face Lewis, opting instead for a bigger payday with Holyfield? Or was the WBC too prestigious for Mike to handle at the time? As long as Mike fought for a title, he didn't seem to care. The WBA/WBC proved to be equally corrupt and easy to manipulate, so it didn't matter. The bid for Klitschko-Rahman doesn't show how prestigious the WBC is. Youll need to explain that one because that makes no sense whatsoever. The bid for Klitschko-Povetkin was well over 20 million and the WBC wasn't involved.. Lewis was paid to drop the other belts. Other promoters didn't see the WBC as prestigious and opted for his other titles, ones which he won after his WBC belt. He kept the IBO title too, so is that prestigious? Floyd has had a cosy relationship with the WBC for a long time. When was the last time Floyd was forced into a WBC mandatory? Btw, Pacquiao had the WBO belt in a lot of lucrative fights, what does that mean? Team GGG have stated they want to unify the division. Or if you don't believe that, they are after a payday against Cotto/now Canelo. Im pretty sure K2 don't sit down and think damn, we need the most important WBC title, these others aren't as prestigious.. The WBO was barely recognised when Corrie Sanders held it. Maybe thats why... if he held the title now, do you think he'd have done it? Correlation does not imply causation. You'll find the WBC have a very cosy relationship with many high earning boxers, bending the rules to their advantage. This is why fighers like Floyd opt for WBC titles, as they don't have to put up with mandatories and other measures (like same day weigh ins) as the IBF may enforce. This in itself does not make it a more prestigious title. Btw, the WBC isn't there to recognise the champion of the world. It's there to recognise a world champion within the WBC. The WBC recognising Wilder as it's own champion does not equal a dispute as to who the World Heavyweight Champion is. There is literally no dispute there

We have a world level fighter in most divisions other than crusier and light-heavyweight though Cleverley is fringe world level but can't really win a world title.

Fury4daWin - Off and on for a decade, the WBC recognized Vitali Klitschko as their world heavyweight champion. During that time, Wladimir was not the clear recognized #1 as many (if not most) experts would have favorited Vitali had he fought Wladimir. Once Vitali retired, I think most experts regarded Wladimir as the clear #1 fighter in the world, but that doesn't suddenly mean that the belt held by Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Spinks, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis is no longer required to become "undisputed" champion.

Tyson Fury is the undisputed HW champion of the world, anyone who claims otherwise is a spastic. or someone that doesn't lie about what words mean...

Deontay Wilder is an absolute bellend. I still remember that "parade" when about 10 people turned up to watch him bring home his paper belt. Tyson Fury is the undisputed HW champion of the world, anyone who claims otherwise is a spastic. Beyonce is a useless hooker strangling glas jawed disgrace. I hope Fury stalls the fight for ages and Wilder gets whipped by Dustin "the Worm" Nichols in a stay busy fight.

But there is clearly a dispute. The WBC did not agree that Wladimir was the champion. For years, they said Vitali was the champion (who would have been favored against Wladimir btw). You don't get to invent your own definition of what "undisputed champion" means. Until the recognized organizations agree, there is a dispute. Welcome to boxing. When does a definition become meaningless? The WBC can say what they want, but they don't get to hold an entire sport's fanbase to ransom by refusing to accept what was blindingly obvious for years. Wlad was the clear recognised number one. Every boxing fan knew it, every boxing journalist, historian and analyst knew it, every fighter knew it (even if they didn't want to accept it). The fact that the WBC didn't recognise him was irrelevant. The fact that they don't recognise Fury as clear number 1 is also irrelevant. In fact the WBC as a whole is irrelevant until they get in line with boxing mainstream. They're tired and delusional old men in a bubble with a power complex and they deserve to be treated to the same respect that every meaningless thing is given.

Theres very few people who recognise the WBC as the most 'prestigious' Namely, a few mexicans, you and the WBC. The champion makes the belt. Therefore the the WBC belt at HW reflects a top 5 contender at HW. Welcome to the modern day sport of boxing. lol what a stupid post regardless of the conversation.

Deontay Wilder is an absolute bellend. I still remember that "parade" when about 10 people turned up to watch him bring home his paper belt. Tyson Fury is the undisputed HW champion of the world, anyone who claims otherwise is a spastic.

Yes there has. His name was Wlad. But there is clearly a dispute. The WBC did not agree that Wladimir was the champion. For years, they said Vitali was the champion (who would have been favored against Wladimir btw). You don't get to invent your own definition of what "undisputed champion" means. Until the recognized organizations agree, there is a dispute. Welcome to boxing.

No he isn't. There hasn't been an undisputed hw champion for 15 years. Yes there has. His name was Wlad.

Laced Up - Is there any disputing the fact that historically, the WBC belt has been the most lucrative in boxing? You can say "ok whatever dude" all you want, but if the facts support my position, "ok whatever dude" is simply sour grapes on your part. Wladimir was recognized by most as the #1 fighter on the planet. Now Tyson will be recognized as the #1 fighter on the planet, as he should be. But nobody has held all of the recognized titles in the heavyweight division since Lennox Lewis in the late 90s. If Fury wants to be universally recognized as the champion, he needs to win the most prestigious and lucrative belt in the sport. A magazine owned by a promoter is irrelevant. Wilder is the WBC World Heavyweight Champion. So yes, he is a champion. You are not entitled to your own facts, only your own opinions.

Being the undisputed champion means you have all of the recognized championships. Wladimir was never the undisputed champion. He won three of the four recognized titles, but was missing the most important one. Saying that he was the undisputed champion "to you" is like me saying that "to me," the sky is red. We are entitled to our own opinions, but we are not entitled to our own facts. The word means what it means. You don't get to create your own definition. "the most important one". :lol1: Ok whatever dude. Everyone knows Wladimir was THE champ. Deontay Wilder just fought for a belt that Stiverne had picked up. It's like he's the champion of the second division. league two. Actually, more like sunday league. but whatever. Tyson is the #1. He's the ring mag champ and universally recognized heavyweight champion. Wilder is what he is. A title holder and a contender. Not a champion.

yeah right. the #3 beats the #1 and somehow the #2 gets elevated without lifting a finger? Beyonce wasn't the real #2 anyway. There's like 4-5 guys I'd pick to smack him.

I'M OFFICIALLY THE BEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP OF THE WORLD! Haters can acknowledge it or look foolish trying to deny it. pic.twitter.com/5XpjDf4o8P— Deontay Wilder (@BronzeBomber) November 29, 2015 He's so damn cringey.