Canelo was 175 against Cotto. 175 POUNDS FFS!
And he's asking for a cw:?? what is this insanity, he's bigger than GGG for gods sake!
Has this ever happened before, where the bigger fighter is asking for a catch weight?
The middleweight championship should be fought at the 160 pound limit.
Simple enough for you?
Exactly. I do not understand why some people don't get it. Some catchweights make sense, and it they are agreed on from time to time by both camps then whatever...But this type of catchweight?? No...Just no, man.
The middleweight division has a limit of 160lbs. The guy with the titles is bigger than 160lbs. He asks the proposed opponent for a catchweight below the divisions limit because he claims not to be a natural part of said division? Why? If you can't/won't fight at the limit of 154, then you get in at middleweight. You fight over the limit of 154lbs? Then get in the next division that is capped at 160lbs. You don't need to contend for that divisions title at a weight that you desire, you should fight for/defend that divisions title within the boundaries of that division. End of story.
The idea of weight divisions is NOT so guys can chose to have title fights and defences at whatever weight they want. Canelo, being as big as he is, demanding a 155lb catchweight to defend the lineal 160lb title is stupid, and I don't see how anyone can defend it in all honesty.
LOL, I have a great idea. If Canelo is comfortable coming in at 155, then make the fight at 160. GGG can weigh his usual, and Canelo can come in at 155.
Ofcourse Team Canelo won't see it that way lol.
Canelo started his career at 147 and GGG started his at 160 and I'm pretty sure he fought at 168 in the amatures & Olympics....
look at the ages of the two guys when they started their careers
and GGG fought at 147 in the amateurs
They didn't show fight night weights but wouldn't be surprising at all. He was 172 for Trout, 174 vs Angulo, and looked really beefy vs Cotto
That is his best fighting weight he said his trainer said it, He is the star now so can dictate to GGG if it is 155 or 160 he is now the champion who made the concession to be champion, if Cotto said 160 he would have still fought.
Anyway he has not said he is ducking GGG
They didn't show fight night weights but wouldn't be surprising at all. He was 172 for Trout, 174 vs Angulo, and looked really beefy vs Cotto
He looked smaller than usual to me vs Cotto.
Canelo was 175 against Cotto. 175 POUNDS FFS!
And he's asking for a cw:?? what is this insanity, he's bigger than GGG for gods sake!
Has this ever happened before, where the bigger fighter is asking for a catch weight?
Canelo is all of 25 years old and still feel physically comfortable getting down to 155/154, as the weight doesn't seem to affect his performance.
The more interesting thing is that the smaller guy is adamantly refusing to give up less weight.
Canelo turned pro at 15 compared to GGG at 24, so yeah, Canelo was smaller. Duh. Maybe we should find out what GGG weighed at age 15, lol. Also, EVERYONE fights heavier in the amateurs, as it is same day weigh ins.
Kinda hard to find GGG fighting weight when he was 15 but there is a record when he was 18.
GGG was 18 yrs old in 2000. He won the Light Welterweight Gold Medalist at the World Junior Championships in Budapest, Hungary
Canelo was 18 yrs old in 2008. In that year, he fought from 147lbs to 150lbs. He weight 139lbs on his pro debut (2005, 15 years old)
(Both from BoxRec)
Let us just say Canelo is unfortunate to stand only 5'9" and now belongs at the MW division. remember DLH and Tito are 5'11" welterweights. DLH started at 130lbs, a very tall one. Hopkins was 6"1" Middleweight.
But Canelo should not worry about the size of GGG because GGG is 5'10" only. It will be GGG's skill which worries him, IMO.
Canelo turned pro at 15 compared to GGG at 24, so yeah, Canelo was smaller. Duh. Maybe we should find out what GGG weighed at age 15, lol. Also, EVERYONE fights heavier in the amateurs, as it is same day weigh ins.
As to the thread question, the only one I can think of is Pac-Algeri, when Pac actually imposed a catchweight on the smaller Algeri who was moving up from 140.
We'll your right, but I was talking about when he started fighting for GBP and HBO.... He started at 147.
Don't understand people hating on guys who blow up after making weight. I mean, if they made the weight, then what is the problem? There's benefits and disbenefits to fighting close to division weight, or blowing up on day of fight. Bigger guys might feel sluggish, slow, tire quickly. Just don't really understand what the deal with that is? My mindset on the issue is that if the guy is truly that big, then he left something behind trying to make weight...meaning you struggled to make weight and it will show in the fight. But, the guys who can comfortably make weight and then blow up, I mean its not hard to gain alot of weight after the weighin, since you are dry during weigh in, no food in stomach, etc.
For me its because its using something (weight), that has nothing to do with the fighters skillset, to an unfair advantage.
And this is a pretty new phenomenon. Back when every State did same day weigh-ins, there was very little of this nonsense. But now, when fighters have sometimes up to 36 hours to re-hydrate, it makes the idea of even having a weigh in somewhat silly. Whats the point? Its pretty much just a photo-op these days....
Fcuk Flip Homansky
don't understand people hating on guys who blow up after making weight. I mean, if they made the weight, then what is the problem? There's benefits and disbenefits to fighting close to division weight, or blowing up on day of fight. Bigger guys might feel sluggish, slow, tire quickly. Just don't really understand what the deal with that is? My mindset on the issue is that if the guy is truly that big, then he left something behind trying to make weight...meaning you struggled to make weight and it will show in the fight. But, the guys who can comfortably make weight and then blow up, i mean its not hard to gain alot of weight after the weighin, since you are dry during weigh in, no food in stomach, etc.
shut the **** up ******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *kicks in the head*
time to just strip canelo, he won't fight at 160 he loses the 160 title
If he's bigger then GGG, then why can't GGG come down and make 155 lbs. I don't buy the whole "Canelo is bigger argument." When he rehydrates to 175, that includes meals that he ate the day of fight, and water weight. If Canelo is bigger, then he would be struggling to make 155 and GGG wouldnt have trouble coming down to 155. Don't think Canelo is a middleweight yet, and I think GGG has not fought good opposition and is only calling out smaller fighters.
"come down" to what you ****ing imbecile? 155 lbs isn't a division, they both hold middleweight titles and canelo is heavier, there's nothing to move down to
god damn i wanna kick you in the face for even typing that
Don't understand people hating on guys who blow up after making weight. I mean, if they made the weight, then what is the problem? There's benefits and disbenefits to fighting close to division weight, or blowing up on day of fight. Bigger guys might feel sluggish, slow, tire quickly. Just don't really understand what the deal with that is? My mindset on the issue is that if the guy is truly that big, then he left something behind trying to make weight...meaning you struggled to make weight and it will show in the fight. But, the guys who can comfortably make weight and then blow up, I mean its not hard to gain alot of weight after the weighin, since you are dry during weigh in, no food in stomach, etc.
Canelo was 175 against Cotto. 175 POUNDS FFS!
And he's asking for a cw:?? what is this insanity, he's bigger than GGG for gods sake!
Has this ever happened before, where the bigger fighter is asking for a catch weight?
If he's bigger then GGG, then why can't GGG come down and make 155 lbs. I don't buy the whole "Canelo is bigger argument." When he rehydrates to 175, that includes meals that he ate the day of fight, and water weight. If Canelo is bigger, then he would be struggling to make 155 and GGG wouldnt have trouble coming down to 155. Don't think Canelo is a middleweight yet, and I think GGG has not fought good opposition and is only calling out smaller fighters.
Canelo started his career at 147 and GGG started his at 160 and I'm pretty sure he fought at 168 in the amatures & Olympics....
Canelo turned pro at 15 compared to GGG at 24, so yeah, Canelo was smaller. Duh. Maybe we should find out what GGG weighed at age 15, lol. Also, EVERYONE fights heavier in the amateurs, as it is same day weigh ins.
As to the thread question, the only one I can think of is Pac-Algeri, when Pac actually imposed a catchweight on the smaller Algeri who was moving up from 140.
There is no evidence of that since he didn't step on a scale.
But it doesn't seem very hard to believe either.
There's no evidence so we are going to just make some up the other way and declare it fact. :rofl:
If GGG is the smaller man then the catchweight shouldn't matter, right? Hell, it would even benefit Golovkin more, so GGG should stop bitching about it.
The middleweight championship should be fought at the 160 pound limit.
Simple enough for you?
was he really 175 lbs on fight night???
They didn't show fight night weights but wouldn't be surprising at all. He was 172 for Trout, 174 vs Angulo, and looked really beefy vs Cotto
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