in my eyes Ward would've been a heavy favorite....much like Pac, GGG is the fan favorite and Ward is the more proven less beloved champion like Mayweather...I couldn't see how Manny could win with out a tarveresque kayo....GGG cant outbox Ward, outmuscle him, outjab him, outthink him, IMO ward is cut from a different cloth and is proven. GGG hasn't shown anything that illustrates he could deal with a fighter the caliber of Ward. Besides power, he has nothing over Ward at all
You are wayyy, wayy off there...The only reason Ward is favor over GGG is because he is physically bigger than GGG. There is no indication that GGG can't outbox or outmuscle Ward. If you look at it that way thats ur view, but there are many people that sees it the other way. But like I say until there's a close possibility that the fight can happen I'm going to reserve the fight a toss up because I do respect both fighters' skills. No, GGG is cut from a different cloth if you want to put it that way...
you don't get credit for not fighting....boxing is fighting....I don't care for politics because non of us were at the negotiations.....you get credit for who you fight not for who "ducked" or "avoided" or who you could've should've beat
Yet you defend Ward's activity the last 4yrs?! Nobody denied what he did during the S6 tourney, but is that it? Theres been so many top ten he hasnt fought the during the missing years, figthers fight, but the boy doesnt...
Someone tell Ward better comp is not found on Australia 168 club circuit
yep, the commission doesnt even approve his opponents because they're too good lol
And Ward moves up in search of better competition. What's GGG gonna do when it's 155 or continue padding his ****ty ass resume? :lol1:
Someone tell Ward better comp is not found on Australia 168 club circuit
Offered 164, Ward said no. Although Ward said he'd have no problem fighting Floyd at 160 doe. :dance:
And Ward moves up in search of better competition. What's GGG gonna do when it's 155 or continue padding his ****ty ass resume? :lol1:
Sturm was elevated because they wanted to give Little G a world title. He was given it and never won it in the ring.
No dumbfcuk, he was elevated cause he paid the WBA to promote him to avoid his GGG mando
No he didn't, do you even follow Little G bro?
He won the interim title and was elevated to full champ when Sturm was elevated to super champ or something. He was already had a WBA that he won IN THE RING, it's not like he was gifted a version of the WBA title out of thin air.
Situation is no different from what happened to Keith Thurman....how come no one is complaining about that doe? Doesn't fit the agenda huh?
Canelo offered 155, Little G said no. Although Little G said he'd have no problem fighting Floyd at 154 doe. :dance:
Ward also said he could beat a Klitschko, why so many tune ups for Kovalev? Mayweather is supposed to be TBE, how well would a drained 160 pound fighter do against TBE? Sounds like a win-win for TBE yet he turned it down.
Maybe the WBA gave him one without ever fighting for it in the ring, like they did for Little G?
He didn't get that title by knocking a guy out in the early rounds?
No, sorry. I think it's clear at this point why he wasn't taking fights.
Speaking of turning them down with no counters, that's what GGG did to Ward. Ahem.
In that case, I can expect you to be in threads dissing GGG since his whole career has been nothing but tune-ups.
Offered 164, Ward said no. Although Ward said he'd have no problem fighting Floyd at 160 doe. :dance:
Da champ is only human and even if he did fight everyone will complain if its not superman -- and Im not talking about Stevenson.
Ward has a belt at 175? Didn't realize that. :boxing:
He didn't need to beat the man because he was THE MAN. At 175 I could care less if he didn't fight DM. That dude didn't want to fight and he never tried to make a fight with Roy. 160 was a pit stop for Roy but he did best Hopkins and Toney there and moved on to bigger and better things.
Your lineal crap bs is just that CRAP.
thank you for crediting me for the time " lineal champion"
Virgil Hill lost to DM, before that he held the WBA and won the IBF from Henry Maske, he was the number 1 light heavy and DM held the wbo...they fought DM won so he was #1 at 175.....Jones beat McCallum and Griffin for the IBF n DM was stripped of all his belts besides the WBO.....Yes, I think Jones would have won.....did they fight? No...no neither gets credit for it
I know on planet HEAD, your opinion is the only one that counts but hear on planet EARTH, yours is not
Bro like I said Jones is my favorite all time fighter, but im not biased....that DM fight should've been made and its his fault and DM....They were at a stalemate...Jones didn't wanna travel because of being robbed in the Olympics and DM...well he didn't fight out of Germany much and 9/10 he wasn't confident he'd beat Jones here if it went to the cards.....thus they were the best 2 of their era, they should of fought, they both take fault.
then it must be tough being a ward fan these days.......
so you gotta be a fan boy...ward has a better resume and is more tested than GGG...pleeeeeeease try to argue otherwise
You can have all the title defences in the world but when it comes down to it it's quality over quantity when comparing resumes.QUOTE]
this^^^^^....and GGG's quality is decent to crappy
Dude you are clueless, so Jones wasn't the best in his division he fought in when he was prime? Lineal is a sh it title.
an opinion is just that....an opinion
Jones is my all time favorite fighter but im not gonna give him credit for things he didn't do, which is not face the other titleholders at 160, 168, and heavy
In my opinion he was the best of his generation and his talent was second to none, politics kill the sport but it doesn't change he was never the man who beat the man in any divison he was in....he did virtually clean out 175 with the exception of DM's scalp but he gets no credit for a fight that didn't happen...sorry
fights are won in the ring, not message boards
So GGG has a resume that compares to a 25 year olds. You then list the greatest fighter of this generation (who is not just any average fighter).
Let's see.
Floyd's record was 28-0. 10 alphabet title fights and 2 division champion. He has some fine wins over Hernandez and Corrales and a disputed win over Castillo. A better resume than GGG? I guess most would say yes. But not by that much.
Canelo? Ok.
Broner (:lol1:) Overall record 31-2
Record in alphabet titlefights: 6-1 No wins that is obviously better than GGG's. Notable losses to Porter and Maidana.
How can you even take Broner in here? LMAO.
Estrada? I must admit I know nothing about this guy. Boxrec says he's 32-2. 6-1 in alphabet fights. He is ranked no. 38 p4p by boxrec. Golovkin is ranked no. 3.
In conclusion you can name the greatest fighter of this generation and the (arguably) no.1 p4p today. So if GGG is behind those it's not that bad at all.
resume is who you fought and they fought more dangerous guys than your boy, just face it
Broner has 2 losses but he has also fought in 4 divisions and fought more major titleholders and champions than GGG
Canelo has too and he is the middleweight champion whether you like it or not....wins over Trout, Lara, Mosley, Cotto is better than what GGG has faced....he also beat 2 future hall of famers and more titleholders than your boy
If you know nothing about Estrada go watch his fights and how he fought Choclatito, Viloria, Marquez, Melinda and other titleholders, he has comparable talent to GGG and has faced stiffer comp and has won titles at two weights
Khan and Garcia had better resumes at 25 than GGG does today as well, beat more top guys in their careers
just deal with it bro....GGG has a lot of talent but his resume is lacking for all his hype
In other Words Roy Jones never had a title to defend.
in other words, title defense records matter when you are undisputed or universally recognized as the champion/ undisputed
Hopkins wasn't til he beat Trinidad
GGG is not he has to beat Canelo
its not that complex.....Trinidad has a bunch of IBF ww defenses but wasn't lineal til he beat DLH then he moved up, Henry Armstrong has the record for most title defenses at ww
as for Estrada, brian viloria is more accomplished and better than everyone GGG has fought also he is a two division title holder and has defeated more current or former champions/titleholders than GGG....Again its not that complex to see
In other Words Roy Jones never had a title to defend.
Jones won the IBF trinket at 160 which was vacant, Toney for IBF at 168, unified belts at 175 even though Michalcewski was lineal and won the WBA trinket from Ruiz at heavy
Jones is great but he never was lineal champion just like GGG is not now
he gets no credit for that record....Carlos Monzon was wba, wbc and lineal champion when he won the title and defended 14 times
GGG won a "interim" or "regular" title and never fought a champion for it and was elevated to champion status
same with Hopkins he only defended the universal middleweight title 6 times and the ibf trinket 20
stop making up records to pad his resume...the defenses start when your undisputed or lineal
In other Words Roy Jones never had a title to defend.