Just pathetic what they just did with Cotto's belt ..I can understand stripping Cotto for not defending it but to grant Canelo the belt of he wins is some foul sh* t !!
They allowed Floyd to keep his belt for several,yrs with out defending it yet Cotto gets stripped because he refuse to pay further sanctioning fees when he just paid 800k to GGG to step aside ..
That situation was totally different.
Golovkin in the mandatory to the WBC belt, there is only one mandatory at a time. If Golovkin is elevated to full champion, he will have his own mandatories to deal with (whoever is #1 or there will be a elimination fight(s) to determine a mandatory between the highest ranked/available fighters.
Oh ok got you thanks for clearing that up..
We all know that Canelo is able to fight for the title because he's a big name and he's Mexican, 2 things the WBC likes. If this had happened 4 days before the Daniel Geale fight, the WBC would've stripped Cotto and moved the belt on to Golovkin.
Cotto told the WBC weeks/months ago that he wouldn't pay the full sanctioning fee. They waited until now to strip him so they could try and get the belt onto Canelo. If Canelo wins you know he will get a exemption/delay on the GGG fight "well Cotto got one to fight Geale so why shouldn't Canelo get one for an easy fight" kind of logic.
I like Cotto and Canelo, just saying, the WBC bent/broke their own rules to have their belt on this fight, then when they found out Cotto wouldn't pay the fees they waited until fight week to strip him so they could still get the sanctioning $$ from Canelo and hopefully have him win the belt, rather than give it to GGG who generates far less money for them.
Good points.
I think Canelo probably should get some fights at 160 before fighting GGG, which i really think he's going to avoid.
Fair enough...if these guys aren't middleweights they shouldn't be holding MW belts.
No he doesn't by interim champion rules he doesn't ... If the champion can go for any reason the person holding the interim title is the new champion
If the champion is sick and can go anymore
If the champion move to another weight division
If the champion is strip for legal reason
If the champion dies
Boxing is just changing the rules in 2015, Today GGG should be named the new WBC Champion
Look at what happened when Darius M was stripped of his titles those titles were won of mandos then RJJ had to fight this mandos to win them are there no mandatories or is GGG the only mandatory for the WBC ?
So if Canelo loses GGG is handed another title..lol
Not GGG's fault. GGG could have won it in the ring vs Cotto but Cotto chose to bypass GGG and fight Canelo instead which is understandable. Bigger fight, more money. Had GGG beaten Cotto, he could have put all the titles on the line with a showdown against Canelo. Canelo doesn't seem to want to face GGG either.
Now I'm a fan off all 3 fighters, but answer me how is it GGG's fault if he were handed the title since neither Cotto nor Canelo wants to face him for it instead?
Still GGG should have to win the belt in the ring
No he doesn't by interim champion rules he doesn't ... If the champion can go for any reason the person holding the interim title is the new champion
If the champion is sick and can go anymore
If the champion move to another weight division
If the champion is strip for legal reason
If the champion dies
Boxing is just changing the rules in 2015, Today GGG should be named the new WBC Champion
Canelo getting the belt if wins make no sense because you already have a WBC interim champion by law of the interim champion rules GGG is your new WBC World Champion ... The only thing Canelo should get if beat Cotto is #1 mandatory spot to GGG
Still GGG should have to win the belt in the ring
Yeah man, ducking is funny, innit?
Nobody ever ducked Floyd, Golovkin is too good for his own good so he will likely have to move up to 168 maybe late 2016 or atleast by 2017.
Man tries to clear out his division and the people who held the belts choose the pathetic route Martinez ducked for ages so did Sturm, very sad that their careers are marred with that but they've only themselves to blame.
Canelo getting the belt if wins make no sense because you already have a WBC interim champion by law of the interim champion rules GGG is your new WBC World Champion ... The only thing Canelo should get if beat Cotto is #1 mandatory spot to GGG
Why the hell shouldn't Canelo win the belt If he beats Cotto?
What are you on man, it was originally planned that Canelo was fighting for this belt and it was in absolutely no way shape or form Canelo fault that Cotto was stripped.
Blame Cotto but to say Canelo shouldn't have a chance of winning the belt is silly, I hope Canelo realizes he has a mandatory If he wins.
Nit picking than are are their weight classes then ? This catch weight **** has ****ed up boxing !
This I'd not a new trend. Catcheeights are older than you and I!
I don't know. He hasn't had a fight over 155. To me that's not a MW. To nitpicking nerds on NSB, that's MW. But I'll tell you what. No other MWs come in at 155 to the weigh in. So, you do the dishes....
Oh, by the way...guess who does come in to weigh ins at 155. Junior Middle Weights.....a whole ****ing boatload of them since the division was created. Wooooooooooooo!
Nit picking than are are their weight classes then ? This catch weight **** has ****ed up boxing !
They are enforcing the rules and GGG should get his long overdue shot at the crown or win it by default if the champion refuses to fight him. Canelo doesn't get a free ride. He also has to fight GGG at 160 or forfeit the belt. The WBC has done lots of bad things but I don't think this is one of them. Cotto told them to shove the belt and their fees and he would fight whoever he pleased. That's great but he can't do that and seriously expect to keep their belt. If you want to be WBC champ you have to follow their rules just as with all the other alphabet groups. Canelo is complying with their rules so he can win the title but if he doesn't fight GGG next he loses it. They aren't doing anything to Cotto that they wouldn't do to Canelo just as quickly if he told them to fuk off the way Cotto did.
if having the WBC title improved his negotiating leverage with Canelo, then no, its not excessive. But if the WBC title is worthless (as some Cotto apologists are inferring), then he should have vacated it immediately after Martinez........
Exactly, obviously its not meaningless to Cotto if he was willing to pay 800K just to keep it a little while longer until he gets his ass kicked by Canelo and at the same time not fight Golovkin :lol1: These Cottostans want it both ways, like their queer cotto likes it from his fat gay lover
Based on rankings I mean is Canelo now a MW ?
Why do the rankings matter in this situation? How is it his fault the lineal champ of the MW division weaseled his way out of fighting the mandatory? The contract was signed for the WBC championship, sanctioning fees are part of the contract, Cotto refused to pay, they stripped him. :lol1: What trouble are you having understanding this? So Canelo should be punished because Cotto wanted to act like a Diva 4 days before the fight? LMAO
Do you think 1% is excessive? I don't.
Cotto looking at $10m guaranteed and up to $30m after sponsors, ppv bonus etc Canelo $6.5m guaranteed. http://t.co/nB0kx9RCl6— John S. Nash (@heynottheface) August 13, 2015
Cotto not paying the sanctioning fee is his way of b1tching out of the GGG fight and vacating his title. Instead of dumping his belt in the trash like a true coward, he will say the WBC screwed him over (even though every single champ has to pay sanc fees) and his fanboys will eat it up. History will show he dropped his belt the week of the fight doe :lol1:
if having the WBC title improved his negotiating leverage with Canelo, then no, its not excessive. But if the WBC title is worthless (as some Cotto apologists are inferring), then he should have vacated it immediately after Martinez, instead of paying the fees for Geale fight as well as $800k step aside to GGG..........
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