1st off, I didn't say Lara would win. I simply asked why it isn't happening.
2nd, he's Cuban
3rd, he dominated the Punisher, stopped Angulo and fought Canelo fairly evenly without a 152 needed.
Everything you spouted is wack. Kick rocks bro.
Nothing is wack.,,
Lara has had many chances at taking over 154, and he has failed everytime to look like the p4p terror that your hyping him up to be..
Literally,, I can't even imagine hopkins, floyd, Ward, etc getting dropped by angulo... Or not carving up canelo or williams.. Dudes tailor made to get carved up.. Yet Lara never could...
So if a guy can't even establish himself at a lower weight class, why in the hell would you think he could bump up and Fvck with a guy like ggg.
Lara is the most overhyped fraud,,,, only looks good vs shobox rejects like Ronald hearns...
I mean everyone is running from the G Monster. but Lara is running towards him. So why isn't the fight happening??
I'd like to see Lara vs. Golovkin.
Haymon and HBO could make it happen if they wanted to.
but why would they want to?
Why don't people shut up and wait? For all we know, GGG's next fight won't be until May vs Canelo?
G monster fights a few times a year. Doubt he sits around and waits for a duck (Cotto/Canelo) winner to quack.
Alfredo angulo was able to cut off the ring and drop lara, yes you read that correctly...a shot war torn ALFREDO ANGULO was able to get lara on the ropes and drop him. GGG vs lara wouldnt even be competitive.
All time great exexcuses;
-Golovkin would KO him so they don't need to fight. (is this an NSAC rule?)
-Promoters don't get along and they shouldn't even try (great things happen when you give up before you start).
-Lara too expensive doe (because we are somehow privy to the financial negotiations).
-Lara has no belt (even though no one with a belt is waiting in line).
-Lara brings no money (oops, neither does Genady).
-Lara too small (every fighter from 154 to168, except the skilled ones).
-When the above fails and you can no longer legitimately defend Golovkin, call someone an idiot and pretend to laugh so they don't see your tears....
ATG excuses after GGG ko's lara
-Lara was a 154lber
-Lara was shot
-Lara wasnt ready for GGG yet
Team GG should start acclimating HBO about the Lara fight and study the mechanics of bringing Lara to fight on HBO. We assume Lara would be able to keep Haymon out of the way with zero issue.
But first things first. Team 3G needs to get HBO's go signal. If they get a thumbs up, then they need to formulate an initial offer and send it to the Lara camp ASAP. It's a way of passing the ball in the other side's court, or in simple lingo, call their bluff. Unlike Ward who just choose to blow smoke.
All time great exexcuses;
-Golovkin would KO him so they don't need to fight. (is this an NSAC rule?)
-Promoters don't get along and they shouldn't even try (great things happen when you give up before you start).
-Lara too expensive doe (because we are somehow privy to the financial negotiations).
-Lara has no belt (even though no one with a belt is waiting in line).
-Lara brings no money (oops, neither does Genady).
-Lara too small (every fighter from 154 to168, except the skilled ones).
-When the above fails and you can no longer legitimately defend Golovkin, call someone an idiot and pretend to laugh so they don't see your tears....
haha, i suppose it couldbe interpreted like that . . .
I'd like to see Lara vs. Golovkin.
Haymon and HBO could make it happen if they wanted to.
Cotto and Canelo won't be fighting Golovkin anytime soon. Lara vs GG needs to happen ASAP.
I used to say that same saying all the time on GGG when I was on another board.
Other Golovkin fans keep writing off a Lara fight w/o thinking ahead.
K2's going to go after #1-Canelo/Cotto, #2-Lee/Saunders, #3-Quillin/Jacobs. There's a strong possibility they won't get any of those in the first half of next year, if ever. Lara is by far the best contingency plan they could ask for below 168lbs.
I could accept the Lara fight not happening due to politics, but K2 needs to call their bluff. Instead they did the opposite, Loeffler admitted they considered Lara and Sanchez said he killed it. That's where Golovkin fans need to voice their opinion. The Monroe fight was a setback and they took the Lemieux fight too early. The idea of fighting Tureano next is such a deflating letdown.
Yes, I feel exactly the same way. I recall Loeffler saying Lara was possible from K2's perspective as they would be open to working with Haymon (not sure about HBO). As for Sanchez, he dismissed Lara as an opponent when he was questioned why they chose to fight Monroe Jr. I never got the sense that Tom presented Lara to Abel and Abel said no. Could be wrong, but that's my recollection.
There seems to be no indication that Canelo or Cotto will fight GGG so the ideal scenario would be GGG takes the vacated WBC title and fights the winner of Lee/Saunders while Lara fights the winner of Quillen/Jacobs. The winners of those 2 fights face each other. And if GGG comes out on top and Canelo feels he's ready for 160, he faces Canelo sometime early to mid 2017. On the other hand, if none of the other MW pretenders/belt-holders step up to negotiate a fight before the end of the year why not give Lara a shot if he's truly willing? At that point, I'd even be happy if GGG said f*** it and called up Ward even though I don't think Ward deserves the fight on his terms.
Why do you keep bringing up Berto? We all know Floyd is a *****, what's new?
And to dismiss the fact that fighters deserve fights is ridiculous, otherwise the likes of Fury or Povetkin would never have faced Wlad or Brook would never have gotten a shot at the IBF strap. Come on.
Plus, I'm not making excuses for GGG, I'm just saying, why is fighting this mythical ,slick fighter who never loses, known as Lara better than fighting legitimate MIDDLEWEIGHTS in Lem, Macklin, Murray and even Geale? Just answer me that.
Seems like you're pretty good at making imaginary arguments. Lets address them. I've never dismissed the fact that fighters deserve fights. I'm trying to get the point across that that doesn't matter. In fact, you actually addressed that issue in your 1st point. Fighters that don't deserve shots get them all the time. Fighters that do, sometimes don't. What that means is, you can't sit there and say a certain fighter needs to do this and do that to earn a fight when that really doesn't apply. Berto was an example of how much that doesn't apply.
I never said Lara (deserves the fight more than anyone else). I asked why isn't it happening. I've also never stated that lara was more deserving, or more legitimate than fighting Lem, Macklin, Murray or even Geale. So I can't answer a question that you made up for yourself, by yourself on your own imaginary terms that never actually existed.
I'm saying, there is no problem with G Monster vs Lara, period. All the other $h*t, the excuses, (more deserving, comparing him to past opponents, saying who deserves it more,) that all you buddy.
Canelo can deserve the fight till the middle of 2050. never said he didn't. But he does not want the fight. I never asked or said Lara deserved it more. I asked why isn't it happening and a boatload of excuses happened, from you and others.
And boxing is not about working yourself into position. That's not true. Andre Berto didn't work himself into $h*t. And don't go assuming anything about Khan fighting Floyd or Pacman. Cause you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
We can agree on your last point. The only one worth anything. There's no reason why you should be (against) Lara/G Monster. Doubt Lara wins, but he'd be an excellent scalp, especially by ko.
Why do you keep bringing up Berto? We all know Floyd is a *****, what's new?
And to dismiss the fact that fighters deserve fights is ridiculous, otherwise the likes of Fury or Povetkin would never have faced Wlad or Brook would never have gotten a shot at the IBF strap. Come on.
Plus, I'm not making excuses for GGG, I'm just saying, why is fighting this mythical ,slick fighter who never loses, known as Lara better than fighting legitimate MIDDLEWEIGHTS in Lem, Macklin, Murray and even Geale? Just answer me that.
Golovkin's like that Ferrari in the garage that gets driven around town all the time but is never taken over 55. I'm a GGG fan, but I'm a bigger fan of boxing. If he can't get Canelo or Cotto, make it happen. Would love to see a little more effort from Lara's camp, though. Stop with the Twitter call outs and pursue the fight. Try actually caling K2...here is their phone #!.. 310.399.2101. Maybe go grab a belt at 160 and become a mandatory. Or at least fight a contender at 160. Twitter's not going to get it done.
I used to say that same saying all the time on GGG when I was on another board.
Other Golovkin fans keep writing off a Lara fight w/o thinking ahead.
K2's going to go after #1-Canelo/Cotto, #2-Lee/Saunders, #3-Quillin/Jacobs. There's a strong possibility they won't get any of those in the first half of next year, if ever. Lara is by far the best contingency plan they could ask for below 168lbs.
I could accept the Lara fight not happening due to politics, but K2 needs to call their bluff. Instead they did the opposite, Loeffler admitted they considered Lara and Sanchez said he killed it. That's where Golovkin fans need to voice their opinion. The Monroe fight was a setback and they took the Lemieux fight too early. The idea of fighting Tureano next is such a deflating letdown.
I'm not talking about who wants the fight or not, I said Canelo does dersve it more, whether or not you like that term is up to you, fact is, prove to me what Lara has done to deserve the fight more.
If your simply going on the basis that Lara is calling out GGG then he should get the fight, you must also believe Khan should have had the Mayweather fight 3 times in the last two years and he should be fighting Pacquiao next, right?
Boxing isn't just about who is calling out some guy from somewhere, it's about, partially anyway, about working yourself into a position to deserve a fight.
But hey, if everyone wants to GGG kill Lara, then why not.
Canelo can deserve the fight till the middle of 2050. never said he didn't. But he does not want the fight. I never asked or said Lara deserved it more. I asked why isn't it happening and a boatload of excuses happened, from you and others.
And boxing is not about working yourself into position. That's not true. Andre Berto didn't work himself into $h*t. And don't go assuming anything about Khan fighting Floyd or Pacman. Cause you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
We can agree on your last point. The only one worth anything. There's no reason why you should be (against) Lara/G Monster. Doubt Lara wins, but he'd be an excellent scalp, especially by ko.
Did you really just post that? The major difference between Canelo and Lara is Canelo doesn't want the fight, Lara does. Therefore that point is useless. You cant fight someone if they won't fight you. More of this "done to deserve", nonsense then trying to validate it with busted points.
I'm not talking about who wants the fight or not, I said Canelo does dersve it more, whether or not you like that term is up to you, fact is, prove to me what Lara has done to deserve the fight more.
If your simply going on the basis that Lara is calling out GGG then he should get the fight, you must also believe Khan should have had the Mayweather fight 3 times in the last two years and he should be fighting Pacquiao next, right?
Boxing isn't just about who is calling out some guy from somewhere, it's about, partially anyway, about working yourself into a position to deserve a fight.
But hey, if everyone wants to GGG kill Lara, then why not.
No doubt, lara would be the best name in ggg resume and ggg would be a huge favorite to ko him, but most of ggg fans don't want this fight because there's a slight chance that lara would outbox ggg , just man up and say it.
Golovkin's like that Ferrari in the garage that gets driven around town all the time but is never taken over 55. I'm a GGG fan, but I'm a bigger fan of boxing. If he can't get Canelo or Cotto, make it happen. Would love to see a little more effort from Lara's camp, though. Stop with the Twitter call outs and pursue the fight. Try actually caling K2...here is their phone #!.. 310.399.2101. Maybe go grab a belt at 160 and become a mandatory. Or at least fight a contender at 160. Twitter's not going to get it done.
GGG has already faced multiple former title holders in the division and legitimate contenders. Lara is a legitimate contender a division below but until he actually gets a win, rather than the "oh i twas a close fight, robbery though, lara won", no I don't buy that rubbish. Canelo has done more to get a GGG fight and Geale, Macklin, Murray all did more at MW to get the fight.
If Lara moves to MW and actually fights a top 10 there then sure, he deserves the fight. Why not? Till then it's BS. Lara is the single most overrated fighter on this forum, he'd get stopped inside 5.
Did you really just post that? The major difference between Canelo and Lara is Canelo doesn't want the fight, Lara does. Therefore that point is useless. You cant fight someone if they won't fight you. More of this "done to deserve", nonsense then trying to validate it with busted points.
No doubt, lara would be the best name in ggg resume and ggg would be a huge favorite to ko him, but most of ggg fans don't want this fight because there's a slight chance that lara would outbox ggg , just man up and say it.