Miguel Cotto and Roc Nation refused VADA testing for Alvarez fight

Meanwhile Marquez KO's Pacquiao at age 40 with ONE shot and with a chest full of acne but he is a hero in Tiajuana. Gotta love the peasants... Margarito comes to fight with casts in his gloves but his win is "legit" Cotto is clean... But I would recommend the proud Morales-Way for Cotto. Throw a few tainted beef steaks on that grill and blame it on the weekend barbecue. You know Canelo is on that Beef ala Morales "diet..." I smell fear in the dusty pueblo... "Cotto is going to "Jose Cotto" Canelo's jaw...Better get conspiracy theory launched on Nov. 6th." AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL so "suspicious wraps" in Mosley fight= plaster in Cotto fight but you unibrow Cotto Jotto buttboys just want to sweep this under the rug? :lol1: Has there ever been more of a hypocritical fan base in any sport? Pac catch weight- "He drained mi papi Cotto :crying:" Cotto-Geale catchweight "My papi is a legend, he can demand whatever weight he wants, A-side betches!" :pat: Cotto has backne like a mofo right now. Why do you think he doesn't take off his shirt for the workouts anymore? If by "Jose Cotto" do you mean get a decent punch in and then get knocked the fck out a few rounds later? :boxing:

The WBC just started this last month, they are enforcing this for their championship fights, but for some reason Cotto-Roc rejected this and didnot allow the WBC to enforce it... It is with great pleasure to announce that the WBC (World Boxing Council) has joined forces with VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) to initiate the WBC CLEAN BOXING PROGRAM first proposed by our late President Dr.Jose Sulaiman Ch. Now under the directive of our President Mauricio Sulaiman this program will be another WBC dream come true. Along with the invaluable support and tireless efforts of VADA and President Dr. Margaret Goodman, the PROGRAM will start with our participation in the testing funding for the upcoming Super Lightweight Division World Championship between Viktor Postol (Ukr) and Lucas Matthysse (Arg) scheduled October the 3rd 2015 for the vacant WBC Superlightweight world championship. The WBC-VADA program is quite ambitious, and its main goal aside from testing is to educate the athletes on the danger and disadvantages that doping can bring to their present and future wellbeing, along with the penalties in testing positive for prohibited substances, in or out of competition. The WBC-VADA initiative tutorials as well as complete policies and procedures will be available to all through our WBC website. It is the WBC’s firm position to become a bastion of a drug free boxing profession. - See more at: http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADA/2015/09/02/hello-world/#sthash.THD3wi6H.dpuf The thing is, as a champion for the WBC (once they have become a champion) they have a choice as the "A-side" to voluntarily do testing but Cotto rejected :ugh:

i believe that WBC was trying to do that for this fight , but for some reason cotto-roc nation rejected ... if im not mistaken they enforced that for lucas-postol and lil G-Lepule, although a bit too late for the second fight... golden boy was involved for both fights and had no problem with it... :boxing: i think that next year will be a very interesting year for testing & boxing..... I'm hoping cotto still does at least the usada testing like in that thread I read before.

Cotto is roided to the gills. Pity it won't do him any good if he fights GGG.

I agree that there should be advanced testing for every fight, whether it be VADA, USADA, or the commission pays for it. Ideally, I think the commission and the sanctioning bodies should pay for it. The WBC just started this last month, they are enforcing this for their championship fights, but for some reason Cotto-Roc rejected this and didnot allow the WBC to enforce it... It is with great pleasure to announce that the WBC (World Boxing Council) has joined forces with VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) to initiate the WBC CLEAN BOXING PROGRAM first proposed by our late President Dr.Jose Sulaiman Ch. Now under the directive of our President Mauricio Sulaiman this program will be another WBC dream come true. Along with the invaluable support and tireless efforts of VADA and President Dr. Margaret Goodman, the PROGRAM will start with our participation in the testing funding for the upcoming Super Lightweight Division World Championship between Viktor Postol (Ukr) and Lucas Matthysse (Arg) scheduled October the 3rd 2015 for the vacant WBC Superlightweight world championship. The WBC-VADA program is quite ambitious, and its main goal aside from testing is to educate the athletes on the danger and disadvantages that doping can bring to their present and future wellbeing, along with the penalties in testing positive for prohibited substances, in or out of competition. The WBC-VADA initiative tutorials as well as complete policies and procedures will be available to all through our WBC website. It is the WBC’s firm position to become a bastion of a drug free boxing profession. - See more at: http://wbcboxing.com/WBCVADA/2015/09/02/hello-world/#sthash.THD3wi6H.dpuf

I disagree. I think most don't care about this **** or care very lil about it &/or they quickly forget about it. I mean hell man guys get caught & they do their suspension & its all good when they comeback. Most importantly I don't think people realize certain realities with PEDs & thats one of the main reasons I'm pro PEDs cuz I think its unreasonable to be able to stop the gains made by people who use PEDs with how things are currently thought about & done in boxing (plus as I've said numerous times I wanna be ringside for The Hulk vs The Thing in 20-30yrs, I love the idea of improved human performance via science). 1)You need year round testing for PED testing for it to mean anything. You can ***** & complain about the issues with getting that done, but the bottom line is testing means f#ck all for a specific fight as guys using most PEDs who are in possession of a working brain would use out of competition. And 2)there have been studies that suggest using certain PEDs can have lasting if not lifelong athletically beneficial changes to the body. So if a guy used PEDs over a 6 month layoff (which most elite guys have had at some point) & cycled off before a fight to pass drug testing its possible that guy could be seeing benefits of that PED usage during that one layoff period for years to come. Once you don't catch him over a decent usage period he's potentially good for the rest of his athletic career. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/effects-performance-enhancing-drugs-may-last-decades/ And those are just the two biggest realities I don't think people think about when all this sorta talk gets going on (besides PEDs don't make you Superman, there are guys getting KTFO & catching L's that are dirty, that UK HW is the best example). Everything you're talking about is virtually meaningless unless the fighters are stupid or careless. Steroids basically do turn you into superman physically, no doubt about that, skills wise it's different, but allowing PED's in boxing will just turn it into bodybuilding where guys will just try to outdo the others. Btw the modern VADA-esque testing still helps because guys will have to jump on stuff to bring their testosterone back to normal levels.

If TBE got away with it and get paid millions of dollars for it, why can't the others? Penalize TBE by exposing him as a cheat and make him give back the money he took, then I'd be all ears. :unitedsta

It'll take more than some spook behind a keyboard making Home Depot jokes to burn me queer. Besides, Home Depot jokes just go to show we're hard workers, unlike blacks who have the highest unemployment, welfare and drug use rates. Don't get me started on you faggot Puto Ricans. Dirty ass mother fuckers. Now I know spook and the other vile racist remarks are bannable offenses.

I'm only on the corner of Home Depot because your mom hasn't given me my money from the street corner she's working on. Cotto is about to get whipped like all your black ancestors did from their white masters. isn't attacking family members a bannable offense on NSB?

I disagree. I think most don't care about this **** or care very lil about it &/or they quickly forget about it. I mean hell man guys get caught & they do their suspension & its all good when they comeback. Most importantly I don't think people realize certain realities with PEDs & thats one of the main reasons I'm pro PEDs cuz I think its unreasonable to be able to stop the gains made by people who use PEDs with how things are currently thought about & done in boxing (plus as I've said numerous times I wanna be ringside for The Hulk vs The Thing in 20-30yrs, I love the idea of improved human performance via science). 1)You need year round testing for PED testing for it to mean anything. You can ***** & complain about the issues with getting that done, but the bottom line is testing means f#ck all for a specific fight as guys using most PEDs who are in possession of a working brain would use out of competition. And 2)there have been studies that suggest using certain PEDs can have lasting if not lifelong athletically beneficial changes to the body. So if a guy used PEDs over a 6 month layoff (which most elite guys have had at some point) & cycled off before a fight to pass drug testing its possible that guy could be seeing benefits of that PED usage during that one layoff period for years to come. Once you don't catch him over a decent usage period he's potentially good for the rest of his athletic career. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/effects-performance-enhancing-drugs-may-last-decades/ And those are just the two biggest realities I don't think people think about when all this sorta talk gets going on (besides PEDs don't make you Superman, there are guys getting KTFO & catching L's that are dirty, that UK HW is the best example). Everything you're talking about is virtually meaningless unless the fighters are stupid or careless. I think alot of people agree with you and Golovkin regarding PED's. IN many ways its like legalizing marijuana-the benefits outweigh the negatives. I think year around testing is the right thing to do, but that would get extremely expensive given the number of registered pro fighters.

this right here 100% :boxing: i believe that WBC was trying to do that for this fight , but for some reason cotto-roc nation rejected ... if im not mistaken they enforced that for lucas-postol and lil G-Lepule, although a bit too late for the second fight... golden boy was involved for both fights and had no problem with it...

Yep, it's a joke letting promoters handle the drug testing. There needs to be a federal law that in order to hold a sports combat license you're required to submit monthly testing so they can track your baseline levels and then do more extensive testing anytime they find anything elevated/depressed. Having everybody doing that would drop the costs due to economies of scale. For that matter, all professional athletes should have to. Yeah, it's never good to have the promoters pay for it. So long as testing can prevent a fight from happening promoters are going to be reluctant to use it. No one wants the money f-cked with, even if the right thing is being done.

I agree that there should be advanced testing for every fight, whether it be VADA, USADA, or the commission pays for it. Ideally, I think the commission and the sanctioning bodies should pay for it. this right here 100% :boxing:

It's true, team Kovalev didn't bring up VADA on their own, and few fighters actually do for various reasons (guilty, hassle, cost). But when it is brought and then rejected is when the fighters deserve to be criticized. That's what Cotto's doing and for no good reason. It's not like money is an issue, and drug testing should be required/expected anyways. Ironically 4 months from now Cotto would be required by the WBC to do this testing as part of the WBC's new rules. 4 months from now cotto will be recovering in a hospital, no need to worry for that...

I agree that there should be advanced testing for every fight, whether it be VADA, USADA, or the commission pays for it. Ideally, I think the commission and the sanctioning bodies should pay for it. Yep, it's a joke letting promoters handle the drug testing. There needs to be a federal law that in order to hold a sports combat license you're required to submit monthly testing so they can track your baseline levels and then do more extensive testing anytime they find anything elevated/depressed. Having everybody doing that would drop the costs due to economies of scale. For that matter, all professional athletes should have to.

It's true, team Kovalev didn't bring up VADA on their own, and few fighters actually do for various reasons (guilty, hassle, cost). But when it is brought and then rejected is when the fighters deserve to be criticized. That's what Cotto's doing and for no good reason. It's not like money is an issue, and drug testing should be required/expected anyways. Ironically 4 months from now Cotto would be required by the WBC to do this testing as part of the WBC's new rules. I agree that there should be advanced testing for every fight, whether it be VADA, USADA, or the commission pays for it. Ideally, I think the commission and the sanctioning bodies should pay for it.

Just making a comparison. The only agenda I have is getting Home Depot to shorten the range on their WIFI so you can't post from across the street on the corner. Cold!!! Home Depot Tribe!

Just making a comparison. The only agenda I have is getting Home Depot to shorten the range on their WIFI so you can't post from across the street on the corner. https://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif BURNT!!!!

You make a fair point, but why didn't Duva/Kov have VADA from the beginning is the best question. The request was a quick response to save face, we all see that. I do not want to deviate from the thread. The main point is "no VADA=dirty" can't be applied randomly. I agree that it looks bad, but I don't agree it automatically makes Cotto dirty. It's true, team Kovalev didn't bring up VADA on their own, and few fighters actually do for various reasons (guilty, hassle, cost). But when it is brought and then rejected is when the fighters deserve to be criticized. That's what Cotto's doing and for no good reason. It's not like money is an issue, and drug testing should be required/expected anyways. Ironically 4 months from now Cotto would be required by the WBC to do this testing as part of the WBC's new rules.

The best eva refused VADA testing also, so what's the point? :unitedsta