Anyone else think like me that Valuev never learnt to use his hips properly

Values absolutely sucked. Watching him fight was a nightmare. At least tye fields would get brutally ko'd. Watching haye Rock him was fun, though. LOL yeah it's funny because Fields did throw his all into his punches...threw his hips right into huge KO's ------------------ Valuev probably could rotate like you're imagining TS, but the time it would take him to return into punching position again would leave him exposed big time. He just doesn't have the reflex and that's a lot of weight propelling forward. See a similar dynamic with big man Wach who will only mix-in a full shot once in a while.

If Valuev could punch like Golovkin does, you'd see men falling out of the ring.

Flexibility has little to do with being able to rotate Ok, I think you're done here.

Flexibility has little to do with being able to rotate, you don't much/any, as for being flexible, I don't think it has that much to do with size you get stiff small men, flexible big men and all sorts inbetween u trollin me He didnt mean hips. He meant hippos.

As a tall guy, I can say that it does matter. I've had more than one coach say I have unusually good flexibility for my height but I still can't turn as explosively and as quick as a shorter guy in my same weight class. Notice how small boxers tend to get in the pocket, work angles, and get out with incredible hip rotation that you simply never see above 155lbs? The longer your frame, the greater affect on the speed of your rotation. Could Valuev have been better? Sure. But, expecting much more of him is overlooking how hard it is for most giants to be flexible and quick. He was never going to be a 7' Pacquiao, no matter who trained him. Flexibility has little to do with being able to rotate, you don't much/any, as for being flexible, I don't think it has that much to do with size you get stiff small men, flexible big men and all sorts inbetween u trollin me

This is the biggest complaint I see from fans of the popular divisions(147, 126) regarding the big boy divisions. They don't realize the big guys just can't do the same things as a 150 pound man, it's just not possible. They equate that with them being **** fighters. Real shame. I think theres an element of truth to both sides, ie heavy guys are less common and so there is a weaker pool of talent and they arnt as able p4p alot of the time you raise a point few people consider tho that was interesting

As a tall guy, I can say that it does matter. I've had more than one coach say I have unusually good flexibility for my height but I still can't turn as explosively and as quick as a shorter guy in my same weight class. Notice how small boxers tend to get in the pocket, work angles, and get out with incredible hip rotation that you simply never see above 155lbs? The longer your frame, the greater affect on the speed of your rotation. Could Valuev have been better? Sure. But, expecting much more of him is overlooking how hard it is for most giants to be flexible and quick. He was never going to be a 7' Pacquiao, no matter who trained him. This is the biggest complaint I see from fans of the popular divisions(147, 126) regarding the big boy divisions. They don't realize the big guys just can't do the same things as a 150 pound man, it's just not possible. They equate that with them being **** fighters. Real shame.

Hip rotation shouldn't be a problem tho As a tall guy, I can say that it does matter. I've had more than one coach say I have unusually good flexibility for my height but I still can't turn as explosively and as quick as a shorter guy in my same weight class. Notice how small boxers tend to get in the pocket, work angles, and get out with incredible hip rotation that you simply never see above 155lbs? The longer your frame, the greater affect on the speed of your rotation. Could Valuev have been better? Sure. But, expecting much more of him is overlooking how hard it is for most giants to be flexible and quick. He was never going to be a 7' Pacquiao, no matter who trained him.

Big Stiff Idiot who couldn't move out of his own weight.

Values absolutely sucked. Watching him fight was a nightmare. At least tye fields would get brutally ko'd. Watching haye Rock him was fun, though.

The larger you are, the less coordinated and flexible you're likely to be. You didn't see Andre the Giant doing backflips off the top ropes. Same reason. Andre didn't do back flips much like butterbean cant, because gravity has a dramatic affect on you when you are that heavy. Hip rotation shouldn't be a problem tho

The larger you are, the less coordinated and flexible you're likely to be. You didn't see Andre the Giant doing backflips off the top ropes. Same reason.