It's clear height is not Povetkin's issue, he needs a damn good ref that deducts points from excessive clinchers.
Sure, Wilder might be faster than Wach, a better boxer.. but in NO WAY he has a better chin.
Sasha dominated Wach completely.
Probably Povetkin, but Wach is so bad. As Dan_Cov said, his claim to fame is not being knocked out by Wlad. In a fight where he was beaten from pillar to post. And then he serves as a decent sparring partner and fights guys 100 years past their prime.
It's a good fight though, wouldn't be surprised by any outcome. Either guy gets a KO or points win.
Pretty good fight.
Just watched the fight and Povetkin's definitely a smooth operator - he's got really good boxing skills and I think he has deceptively fast hands. Povetkin is very good at negotiating the distance against a taller opponent and has a lot of snap and accuracy on his punches when he gets in range.
Povetkin doesn't have much of an inside game though. Against Wach everytime they got remotely close, Povetkin was content with letting Nady break them up. On an aside, what a horrendous ref job by Jay Nady. Whenever the fighters got close he instinctively broke them up, instead of instructing them to fight out of the clinch. He also, repeatedly issued warnings to Wach for having his hands on Povetkin - his was too involved in action.
Anyway, after watching this fight, I think Wilder beats Povetkin. Wilder has about the same height and reach as Wach but is much more offensively skilled, powerful and explosive. Also, in his last fight, Wilder showed that he has a decent inside game and can box 'in-close.' Wilder will have to fight a smart disciplined, but not overly tentative, fight against the Russian and once he finds his ranged and rhythm I think he KO's him.
Povetkin looked strong, fast, and healthy.
And Wilder is going to beat his ass.
All the people saying that Povetkin is going to demolish Wilder are the same people who said Stiverne was going to demolish Wilder.
Come get some more egg on your faces.
Pov is worlds better than All stiverne does is plod n wait for the counter shot.pov works in there n forces openings.wilder has never seen a fighter even close to that
Wach barely got past a journeyman, Oluokun. He was landing some monster shots against Wach and cutting the ring off, it's no surprise Povetkin would KO him.
Wach is not good, he's not even better than Duhapaus.
:crackhead
He won't need a "better chin" than Wach. Wilder is NOTHING like Wach. Wilder throws an extremely high # of punches, has massive power, and is much much faster and quicker than Wach. Povetkin wont be wading in while Wilder is hunched over waiting to be blasted with hooks.
Wilder uses his height and reach very effectively. Sure Wilder will get hit, but Stiverne hit him and never really hurt him despite being known as a big puncher. And he was never really hit flush. And Povetkin will be taking massive punishment trying to come in on DW unlike v Wach.
Stiverne was ill..
Povetkin will not be ill and even then, he still has more power.
Wilder gases out badly later on, Povetkin keeps going.
It's clear height is not Povetkin's issue, he needs a damn good ref that deducts points from excessive clinchers.
Sure, Wilder might be faster than Wach, a better boxer.. but in NO WAY he has a better chin.
Sasha dominated Wach completely.
He won't need a "better chin" than Wach. Wilder is NOTHING like Wach. Wilder throws an extremely high # of punches, has massive power, and is much much faster and quicker than Wach. Povetkin wont be wading in while Wilder is hunched over waiting to be blasted with hooks.
Wilder uses his height and reach very effectively. Sure Wilder will get hit, but Stiverne hit him and never really hurt him despite being known as a big puncher. And he was never really hit flush. And Povetkin will be taking massive punishment trying to come in on DW unlike v Wach.
That's debatable, Stiverne is just as good, if not better than any of Povetkin's best wins and Wilder pretty much dominated him. Stiverne has serious knockout power and could easily hurt Povetkin who's wide open, if Takam & Huck could hurt Povetkin, so could he.
Duhapaus has actually proven more than Wach, his win over Charr is more impressive than anything Wach has done. Wach's claim to fame is being Wlad's punching bag.
And who exactly who has Stiverne beaten?
Every single one of Wilder's opponents would also be KO'd by Povetkin.
That's debatable, Stiverne is just as good, if not better than any of Povetkin's best wins and Wilder pretty much dominated him. Stiverne has serious knockout power and could easily hurt Povetkin who's wide open, if Takam & Huck could hurt Povetkin, so could he.
Duhapaus has actually proven more than Wach, his win over Charr is more impressive than anything Wach has done. Wach's claim to fame is being Wlad's punching bag.
Wach barely got past a journeyman, Oluokun. He was landing some monster shots against Wach and cutting the ring off, it's no surprise Povetkin would KO him.
Wach is not good, he's not even better than Duhapaus.
Every single one of Wilder's opponents would also be KO'd by Povetkin.
Wach has a better chin and im not convinced doesnt have better skills than Wilder. Wilder has more punching power, Wilder is a slightly better Seth Mitchell in my opinion.
Wach barely got past a journeyman, Oluokun. He was landing some monster shots against Wach and cutting the ring off, it's no surprise Povetkin would KO him.
Wach is not good, he's not even better than Duhapaus.
:lol1: you kidding right?
Those shots Wach took up the ass would kill Wilder
Wach is not Wilder lmao, Wilder has great reflexes and strong jab when he uses it. Wach's power is also nothing compared to Wilder's, 53% to 97%.
Wach literally looks like he's fighting in slow motion, his claim to fame is not getting KO'd by Wladimir, he's no better than Duhapaus. Povetkin kept using the same lunging hooks over and over again with the same footwork, his offense is very basic.
When he's fighting off the back foot practically all of his advantages are gone. Wach doesn't throw punches, while Wilder is one of the most aggressive heavyweight champion in years.
Wilder was brought along slowly for sure at the start of his professional career, but he beat Bermane Stiverne soundly when he fought him. It's true he hasn't fought the top opposition since then, but IMO he's just preparing for Povetkin. Lets see who he'll fight January 17th.
I just don't understand these people yapping off thinking it's a given that Wilder will get beat or that he'll be a cakewalk for Povetkin. Wilder is a level above the Stivernes and Arreola's of the HW division, and IMO above the Wach's and Pulev's.
Everyone who loses automatically gets 'bum' status on these boards. It's quite sad.
Wilder is too used to dominating kids. He'll get ****y, eat a couple of hooks or crosses and start backpedaling that will end with him on the mat at least once and then get stopped.