This thread is ridiculous.
The man can fight and train however he wants, and run his finances whatever way he pleases.
He's being criticized as if he made poor career choices, when there is no evidence in favor of that. Wait for the fight and then base your judgment on whether he made the right move. Atlas could very well be a great fit. His wife is also receiving much unnecessary criticism. This is not Jin Mosley - give her a break.
1-He limited himself to Top Rank meaning he cant fight most fighters at 147. Tis has nothing to do with his wife. This is simpy a reality if signing with Top Rank -- you only fight TR fighters. GBP and Haymon Boxing does the same thing.
2-He left his long time trainer and sounds like his wife talking now. Maybe he felt that Joel Diaz had done as much for him as he could. A change can be good sometimes.
3-He is on the outside looking in on the ww landscapeEverybody is on the outside looking in. Promoters aren't willing to work with each other. That is not Bradley's fault.
Bradley is good at everything Mayweather is great at everything, Bradley took chances because he needed to Mayweather gave people chances. Mayweather >>>>>Bradley any day ending in Y.
Bradley might be making the change to help him change his fight style. He has been always trying to add power to his game but is never successful at that. some fighters just can't generate knock out power especially when they are fighting TOP fighters. These guys did not get to where they are because they have weak chins or no heart. As for his wife making decisions well its her money too right? If any of you are married and actually trust your wife than you know no one is going to watch you back like she is. Bottom line sometimes change is good and needed. Sometimes it back fires in your face. Lets see how it ends for Bradley in any event HOF well I am not sure he is quite there yet but he is TOP 10 of his era.
Just saying when boxers let their wifes manage their careers it usually ends bad. Look at Mosley, he let Jin manage his career and now Mosley Promotions operates out her basement. Also, remember Rachel Donaire? She had Nonito thinking they could do everything without a team. The last time I saw that dude he was getting decapitated 15th century style.
Mosley's simple self gave over too much to Jin with very little basis. She was obviously a gold digger. And as a woman, he money-fied her instead of mollified her. There is a difference.
Anyone can buy loyalty, but it doesn't last. Loyalty is rare, and is not a commodity that a woman like Jin is capable of providing. Tim must feel like his woman has that quality, however. And who are we to argue until proven otherwise?
Donaire's troubles cannot be blamed on his wife IMO. He got out boxed by Rigo at his peak and destroyed by Walters. Both things he could have changed the outcome of if he was able. He was not.
Imo, Bradley's success hinges on whether he is the true man of the household (giving his wife the illusion of control, while it's him really holding the reins)... or not...
I said this about 10 months ago and everyone ****ted on my thread. This was before he left Joel.
Can his legacy rise??? No, beating Vargas, and the Rios did nothing for Pacquiaos resume and it won't do anything for Bradley's resume.
Just saying when boxers let their wifes manage their careers it usually ends bad. Look at Mosley, he let Jin manage his career and now Mosley Promotions operates out of her basement. Also, remember Rachel Donaire? She had Nonito thinking they could do everything without a team. The last time I saw that dude he was being beheaded medieval style.
Would hate to see similar happen to Bradley.
Weird how everybody caps on Monica all the time. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What some might consider a 2,3,4,5/10 could be a 10/10 in somebody else's eyes. imo some of the stuff that's been said about her should be a banable offense. (But I'm no mod so, f*ck it) to me it comes off as insecure. Some of you guys must not have enough control over your own finances to be able to delegate responsibility to your spouse. Just my thoughts...
As to the TS; I think Bradley's career is doing fine. Tim gets paid top dollar and doesn't even really have the fan base to substantiate the pay day. I'm not really sure what to make of the fall out with Diaz though. I never imagined they'd split. But there again, Tim and Monica have managed themselves pretty well up until this point so their track record hasn't been one of bad decisions. I guess time will tell though.
Dude, Monica's behemoth ass had those two jobs before she nailed Bradley. With several kids by different fathers, what did she have to lose with dating him? In fact, I believe she wise'd up, investigated and assessed the situation(the fact that Bradley was both undefeated, completely invested in his career, and the potential payoff), and took the gamble; again, what did she have to lose?
I just hope we don't read on here five or six years from now that Bradley is living in Monica's basement all the while she's spending thousands of dollars in cosmetics on herself.
At least we have an accurate assessment of your feeling on Monica Bradley right?
Dude, Monica's behemoth ass had those two jobs before she nailed Bradley. With several kids by different fathers, what did she have to lose with dating him? In fact, I believe she wise'd up, investigated and assessed the situation(the fact that Bradley was both undefeated, completely invested in his career, and the potential payoff), and took the gamble; again, what did she have to lose?
I just hope we don't read on here five or six years from now that Bradley is living in Monica's basement all the while she's spending thousands of dollars in cosmetics on herself.
See this is a bunch of tabloid esque drivel that only bottom feeders would peddle.
Just as likely that Tim is happy and making 6 mill guaranteed.. that's good bread. Women like if you give them a little indication you trust them, but I'm sure Bradley is more into self management than some of yall think. He seems like a smart guy. Just letting his wife handle some details to keep her happy and make her feel involved and important.
But don't let a voice of reason spoil yall mud slinging fest
And why do you think this will happen? Wouldn't his fat wife (as many of you refer to her) have left him back when Bradley had less than $20 in the bank before the Witter fight and she was working 2 jobs to support the entire family?
You dudes claim she wanted to take control of his career to somehow ruin him and bleed him dry when he has made more money over the past 2 years than at any point in his career. I'm guessing she is going to up and leave now with her three kids and support them by herself and take what she can from Tim?
Just make sure that that Panda in your sig gives Tim a job when he needs it and gives Meldrick Taylor a raise too because he says that Panda is a right schitty boss.
Dude, Monica's behemoth ass had those two jobs before she nailed Bradley. With several kids by different fathers, what did she have to lose with dating him? In fact, I believe she wise'd up, investigated and assessed the situation(the fact that Bradley was both undefeated, completely invested in his career, and the potential payoff), and took the gamble; again, what did she have to lose?
I just hope we don't read on here five or six years from now that Bradley is living in Monica's basement all the while she's spending thousands of dollars in cosmetics on herself.
Mayweather and Bradley are not even in the same stratosphere man
And still, Floyd will be forever remembered more for what he could have been as opposed to what he was. Bradley might even remembered as an overachiever but that he will be remembered as one that was a boxer, one that represented what the sport was about instead of one that stood for the corrupt business that took boxing over. I hope you are starting to see my point.
He will be thought of as more of a man than Floyd will. All the shenanigans through out his career, the false retirements, the legitimacy of the drug testing, the potential payoffs around every corner, legacy forever ruined. Tim will be remembered as a man of the people while Floyd will be remembered as a fraud.
Mayweather and Bradley are not even in the same stratosphere man
And Bradley will simple jus"NEVER BE THOUGHT OF AT ALL"
He will be thought of as more of a man than Floyd will. All the shenanigans through out his career, the false retirements, the legitimacy of the drug testing, the potential payoffs around every corner, legacy forever ruined. Tim will be remembered as a man of the people while Floyd will be remembered as a fraud.
I don't have a problem with trying to keep money in the family, but when it comes to boxers and their spouse they have to be careful, Mosley is paying dearly for making his ex-wife his manager during his career, you can make your brother,sister, mother, father, uncle your manager, but making your wife your manager is dangerous because the moment things don't work out for the two of you she gets to take almost everything away from you, why? Because she would be adjudged to be managing everything in your career from the home to the kids to your finances.
The one caveat is that Shane Mosley's ex-wife wasn't starving with him, while Tim Bradley's wife was. Unless Wikipedia is inaccurate, Mosley got with Jin in 2002, over two years after that first De La Hoya fight; there relationship was what it was, but I'm fairly certain that Mosley was flashing when Jin came along.
Mosley's mistake was trusting his future with Jin; no idea how their relationship worked out or the condition she's in, but if things were good and he trusted his affairs with Shane Jr's mother (Shane Jr is 24, putting his birth back to when Mosley was still a promising amateur at 20), Shane would've been fine.
If you look back at most other relationships/partnerships, where both parties started from nothing together and built something, those tend to be the most solid and, as long as everyone respects everyone, seem to end up with the least amount of issues.
Bradley career wise is set. He's a HOF fighter and p4p one of the best. Now he's just pocketing and is currently the must establish champion at 147lb so in reality the guys in Haymon side need to get at him.
... actually, Kell Brook is the most established champion at 147 (assuming that we're saying that Mayweather doesn't count).
By the end of the month, he'd be three title defenses into his title reign, with the appearance of being good enough to basically beat every welterweight in the sport.
Bradley is only champion because the WBO never intended to make Mayweather champion, and because he beat a fighter (Jessie Vargas) who seems to always luck himself into catching the break.