Would a Ward-Kovalev outcome determine the P4P #1?

zac dunn? caleb truax? dmitri sartison? Damn those are some elite fighters !!!

So if Kovalev has to fight Stevenson first, who would ward fight ? I think it is a locked for GGG/Lemieux winner to fight canelo/cotto winner. What' fighter is left for ward to boost a clash with Kovalev ? zac dunn? caleb truax? dmitri sartison?

broner will be a 4 weight champ and these clowns will only be 1 and 2 division champs. facts people facts

So if Kovalev has to fight Stevenson first, who would ward fight ? I think it is a locked for GGG/Lemieux winner to fight canelo/cotto winner. What' fighter is left for ward to boost a clash with Kovalev ?

Yes these guys are both top 3 or 5 p4p... If one beats the other then it trumps any win the other p4p guys have..

Anyone who beats either Kovalev, GGG or Ward should be considered #1 at p4p.

absolutely. unlesss it was at 168 lbs and they had to wheel kovalev in. that fight, at 175, is the most significant fight in boxing.

I'd say it would be #1 Roman #2 Winner of Kovalev/Ward #3 Winner of GGG/Lemieux/Cotto/Canelo.. however if winner of these 4 also fights Andy Lee and wins, he should be #2.

Yes I think it's pretty safe to say that the winner of this fight would be the #1 P4P fighter.

No it wouldn't Ward isn't highly rated enough on the P4P rankings. Maybe Kovalev/Ward could go upto 2nd.

Ward is the #1 p4p fighter, so any fight that he's involved in will determine the p4p #1 fighter.

kovalev-ward won't happen until late 2016 if it happens, which gives gonzalez plenty of time to rematch estrada and perhaps take on someone else like inoue or nietes. it would be pretty harsh to demote roman after a run like that

one of the two can be crowned p4p #1 but so could GGG, Canelo, or Thurman. Also if Gonzales beats Estrada again he would deserve to belong on top as he is now. What victories do you think GGG, Canelo or Thurman could have that would propel them to the top of the list? (besides Ward for GGG). Gonzalez is already up there and a Estrada/Gonzalez victory for whoever wins when that happens next year is one of the top possible victories in the sport at the moment, but I think it falls just short of a victory over Ward/Kovalev

I'm pretty sure that unless Roman Gonzalez does something crazy, one of the trio of Kovalev/Ward/Golovkin will be p4p#1. There's no way Ward doesn't fight at least one of them, and he could potentially fight both of them. That's why I understand him wanting to wait around for Golovkin, but it looks like he may not be able to now. Which is a shame. And of course if either Golovkin or Kovalev beat Andre Ward, they are the p4p #1. I don't think it's even a debate without someone else pulling off a remarkable win. Lomachenko/Rigondeaux is the only fight I can think of which could provide the same status to the winner that Ward vs. Golovkin/Kovalev would. Roman is top 5, no doubt. Resume wise, he has one of the strongest in the sport at the moment. But its the overall accumulated body of work, I don't see any SINGLE win he could possibly get that would be bigger than a victory over Kovalev or Ward. I agree, Lomachenko-Rigo would be the only other fight I can think of that one single win for either guy, would come close to having the same P4P implications.

I been saying it for months. The winner of that fight is my number 1 p4p fighter in the world.

No. Golovkin is #1 until he retires because he's in an Apple commercial and beat Martin Murray. Martin Murray is one win away from becoming the #1 SMW.

one of the two can be crowned p4p #1 but so could GGG, Canelo, or Thurman. Also if Gonzales beats Estrada again he would deserve to belong on top as he is now.

It's funny, if you think about it.... both Golovkin and Kovalev have SO MUCH to gain from Ward- Ward could literally define their potential future ATG status because a win over Ward from either one would make them the P4P #1, if what you say about Ward-Golovkin is true. The tricky and confusing part is...... Would it be the same stipulation if Ward took a loss against one of them and fought other one? Probably not- the one who would of won first would be cemented as the P4P #1.... BUT, Golovkin-Kovalev would never happen and simply not possible, and should never even be discussed for obvious reasons. So, its kind of like a rat race to fight Ward first to be able to try and pop his cherry by possibly beating him and becoming the likely unanimous P4P #1. :Flush: Ward needs one of them as well, because "history" probably wouldn't rate a victory against anybody else in the world as much as a win over GGG/Kovalev would further propel his legacy. And at 168 he simply has no options and would be fighting there merely for money. I'm pretty sure that unless Roman Gonzalez does something crazy, one of the trio of Kovalev/Ward/Golovkin will be p4p#1. There's no way Ward doesn't fight at least one of them, and he could potentially fight both of them. That's why I understand him wanting to wait around for Golovkin, but it looks like he may not be able to now. Which is a shame. And of course if either Golovkin or Kovalev beat Andre Ward, they are the p4p #1. I don't think it's even a debate without someone else pulling off a remarkable win. Lomachenko/Rigondeaux is the only fight I can think of which could provide the same status to the winner that Ward vs. Golovkin/Kovalev would.

the winner is easily #1 p4p

I stopped including the HW champions in P4P discussions- because they are the P4P kings by default. Wlad (and any other HW champ in history) technically IS the reason there is a hypothetically P4P list in the first place. Since he is the HW champ, technically he's the champ of the world because nobody under HW could beat him.... but the same goes with other top HW's. If we included HW's and went by the realistic logic I just mentioned- then the P4P list would look something like: 1) Wlad 2) Wilder 3) Povetkin etc, and that wouldn't be any fun. So, while i do agree with you- I stopped including HW's in my P4P rankings. I see what you mean. Understandable. In that case, I honestly don't fucking know who should be #1 atm.