Would you stop watching boxing?
Would you be upset ?
Would you be happy about it?
How would it change the sport for the better in your opinion?
How would it hurt the sport in your opinion?
Id be in favor of open scoring . A scoreboard for the fans and for the scores to all be turned in by 30 seconds into the break via computer and paper. With scores being announced every round.
Have there been any examples of this?
Open scoring has been used enough times to have the data necessary to make a proper conclusion if good or bad. Based on the dozen or so times I've seen open scoring live, I can't think of a single example where it made the fight better.
Austin Trout admitted that when he heard the scores at the end of the 4th round vs Canelo, he stopped boxing and started pushing the fight. He said it hurt him, because it got him out of his game. But he admitted to becoming more aggressive.
It's no coincidence that Trout was throwing 8-16 power punches a round through rounds 1-4, then the scores were announced at the end of round 4, and voila, look at the increase in power punches thrown by him. From 19 to 26 the very next round, 47 in round 6, and averaged around 40 power punches thrown per round the rest of the fight. So he went from throwing less than 20, coasting, crusing, throwing little jabs to more than doubling his power punch output after the scores were announced. This made the fight more competitive in my eyes, Canelo was toying with him in the first 4 rounds. I thought Canelo clearly won but if Trout didn't pick it up it would have been ever worse for him.
I'm mixed, it helps prevent robberies by putting more pressure on judges but you lose the suspense of waiting to see who gets the nod when a fights really close.
Most sports have situations where one person or team has a big lead and chooses to run out the clock without taking unnecessary risk. It's a legitimate strategy and nobody complains about it.
So if that ever became a part of boxing due to open scoring, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Ultimately though, I would prefer that scoring remain private until after the fight. Open scoring changes the entire context of the sport. With private scoring, winning by decision feels more like a last resort, not a primary objective. With open scoring, the feel of boxing changes from two guys trying to knock each other out and if they don't, judges will render a decision to two guys trying to score points to gain a lead and kill the clock.
Which isn't good or bad, just different and it would be more like other sports, but I do think it would be a mistake to eliminate the pretense that boxers are trying to win the fight decisively.
Not a fan of open scoring. I have seen too many fighters take the last few rounds off because they knew they could not lose. If crooked judges are the problem go after them, everything else is just a bandaid.
Its up to the losing fighter to press the fight .its also up to the fans to stand up for their sport.
Also up to the media to call things out.
We have social media as well.
Its one thing to be biased for your fighter. Its a whole other thing to allow corruption
Fans in the arena would boo. And judges would then become more accountable for their card.
Im in favor off having the judges be interviewed at the post fight pressers.
Fighters who run and kill time would lose fans and
Tv interest. They would hurt their own bank account imo. It would have to be done for a full 2 years. You may have guys go harder in the first 6 rounds as well imo. Strategies become more open and in depth. Guys like roach hunter and floyd sr may have a losing fighter. And need their guy to attack more. Boxers may have to fight more. Fighters may choose to box more. Imo it helps over a long haul.
I don't think that booing fans would make a judge start to change his score. First of all, he couldn't change what he's already done and secondly, who cares? What if you're in someone's hometown and the fans are booing the score but their guy is actually losing? Maybe the fans are wrong. And also I think that more pressure comes after the fight when you can have someone explain why they judged an entire fight the way that they did and not just part of it.
And I don't think it would work, but if it did, I think you'd need more than two years. I think you'd need a significant change in the culture of the sport to the point where you'd have televised fights with ringside reporters actually interviewing judges in between rounds about how they score the previous round on camera. Right now, that's unheard of and I think it's at least half a decade away if they moved in that direction.
I think the ref should know the scorecard so that they can stop the fight if one guy is getting pummelled and has zero chance of winning. I don't think the fighters should know as it would result in more fighters coasting from the mid-late rounds.
It may also make the losing fighter more aggressive and have a sense of urgency to win by KO.
Fans in the arena would boo. And judges would then become more accountable for their card.
Im in favor off having the judges be interviewed at the post fight pressers.
Fighters who run and kill time would lose fans and
Tv interest. They would hurt their own bank account imo. It would have to be done for a full 2 years. You may have guys go harder in the first 6 rounds as well imo. Strategies become more open and in depth. Guys like roach hunter and floyd sr may have a losing fighter. And need their guy to attack more. Boxers may have to fight more. Fighters may choose to box more. Imo it helps over a long haul.
Except no one gave a sh*t when the judges had Danny Garcia winning by a ridiculous margin after 8 against Herrera, or when Alvarez had the fight in the bag after the 8th against Trout, when the fight was dead even.
So no, the fans possibly booing, which they probably won't since it is the money fighter getting these corrupt scorecards and the fans like the money fighter, isn't going to mean a thing. Especially not to the judges.
I don't see how open scoring would cut back on robberies and, unless the suggestion is a fourth and 'alternate judge' or something like that, I don't see how it would hold a judge with a crazy score more accountable than announcing it after the fight does.
Fans in the arena would boo. And judges would then become more accountable for their card.
Im in favor off having the judges be interviewed at the post fight pressers.
Fighters who run and kill time would lose fans and
Tv interest. They would hurt their own bank account imo. It would have to be done for a full 2 years. You may have guys go harder in the first 6 rounds as well imo. Strategies become more open and in depth. Guys like roach hunter and floyd sr may have a losing fighter. And need their guy to attack more. Boxers may have to fight more. Fighters may choose to box more. Imo it helps over a long haul.
I can't believe people are choosing the "no surprise" option. Have we not seen enough robberies that you want to see more? At the very least, it'll let a losing fighter know he needs to press the attack more. If fighters choose to coast when they're comfortably ahead on the cards it's up to the other fighter to try to close the show. Sure, there'd be no drama at the end, but anything which reduces robberies is OK by me.
Judges aren't being called to account as it stands, so what's the alternative?
I don't see how open scoring would cut back on robberies and, unless the suggestion is a fourth and 'alternate judge' or something like that, I don't see how it would hold a judge with a crazy score more accountable than announcing it after the fight does.
indifferent
open scoring is dumb on paper but scoring is so corrupt that in reality it kind of gives the fighter whos being robbed a chance to change their strategy
Its so bad that it's gotten to a point where when a fight goes the distance, I tune in just to see how ridiculous the scorecards are more so than to see who they announce as the winner.