Should Ineffective Aggression Be Regarded As A Major Scoring Criteria?

WTF lol, did they really just give him that, to me only real way to judge punch stats in any fight is to slow mo the video and count every punch that landed yourself. Yes, sometimes when one re-watches a fight, they see things that they never saw before. Slow-mo certainly comes in handy. Though one thing to be careful about slow-mo is that you can't hear how hard the punch connected. At times what you can't see due to bad camera angle, one can hear the thud(connect). So its good to see it in various speeds.

Some judges do take into consideration a boxer's aggression when scoring a round, even ineffective aggression, but most judges these days score for effective aggression only. If "Ineffective Aggression" was regarded as a staple scoring criteria, would it actually make for more entertaining fights and perhaps level the playing field a little between boxers and brawlers? In other words, imagine if Ineffective Aggression attained almost the same status as "Effective Aggression", it would mean that the more aggressive and active a fighter is, the higher possibility he has to win a fight, even if he's outgunned, over-matched, out-sized and out-skilled! Oftentimes, the fighter which the audience finds most entertaining is the one who is being aggressive, it's that fighter who usually provides the activity, the motion and movement, the action, while the measured boxer bides his time waiting patiently to counter. So that "ineffectively aggressive" fighter is actually the one entertaining the paying masses and it might make sense to repay him more appropriately by acknowledging his efforts officially on the scorecard? It's the opposite of effective aggression, so in a way it already is. I always give points fo effective aggression, if you drive your fighter back by landing shots and putting him on the back foot by force and position, I will give you the round unless you got outpunched, but it's one of the hardest things to do in boxing, land effective shots moving backwards, and you have less power than the man coming forward. If you are coming forward but getting countered and/or not able to control your opponent and are losing the ring battle then you aren't getting any love from me. take a step back, reassess, and come with a diferent strategy. Throw more feints and frequent jabs and work your way in to land hard shots and pivot.

Well, damn. Good catch. But don't act like Floyd didn't land anything else all night. Floyd landed at times but some rounds went the way that punch stat count went. Incorrectly scored. Floyd takes advantage of everything, as one should get by now and the Vegas judges are no different.

That line reminded me of this. Floyd swinging at air and punch stats saying "close enough": http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-22-2015/Jtqcdn.gif WTF lol, did they really just give him that, to me only real way to judge punch stats in any fight is to slow mo the video and count every punch that landed yourself.

This can't be a serious question.

That line reminded me of this. Floyd swinging at air and punch stats saying "close enough": http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-22-2015/Jtqcdn.gif Well, damn. Good catch. But don't act like Floyd didn't land anything else all night.

No but there definitely needs to be better balanced judging between aggressor and defenser. Because ineffective aggression is more visible than ineffective defense. I dont think Floyd did well against manny because mannys defense matched floyds or even outperformed and he was also better aggressor. But most people couldnt see that floyds defense game wasnt working out,

This .gif should live forever to be used whenever anyone uses CompuBox as proof of anything. Should make it a sticky.

That line reminded me of this. Floyd swinging at air and punch stats saying "close enough": http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-22-2015/Jtqcdn.gif This .gif should live forever to be used whenever anyone uses CompuBox as proof of anything.

Are some fans getting that desperate that they want to change rules to give their overrated favorite fighter an advantage over fighters that fans know their favorite fighter can't beat Landing Clean is how your score points. You don't get points for swigging at Air and at someones Guard ^^^^^^^:boxing: That line reminded me of this. Floyd swinging at air and punch stats saying "close enough": http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-22-2015/Jtqcdn.gif

The answer to the question is no, it should not. But I disagree with the ts assuming that it does not already happen, fact is to many judges already give credit for ineffective aggression. IMHO a lot of the times you see a scorecard that doesn't match reality or the other scorecards it's usually because they felt one fighter deserved the credit as the aggressor regardless of how ineffective it was. Effective Aggression is in the eye of the beholder. Completely agree. And lol at officially scoring "ineffective" aggression. By these rules, I reckon you scored it as "ineffective aggression" in favor of Fury and Klit when they punched their own face? :D

With lots of bodyshots. What was so ineffective about Canelo's aggression compared to Lara's potshot every minute? Lara barely led even, you can't give him the effective aggressor category. Canelo by a landslide. Fair enough, but canelo did miss alot of punches also.

Wait a minute, so if what you guys are saying is true. if ineffective aggression isn't good enough to win rounds then how did Canelo get the win over Lara?? Because Lara's style was every bit as ineffective as Alvarez's aggression, and the fight could be scored either way.

Wait a minute, so if what you guys are saying is true. if ineffective aggression isn't good enough to win rounds then how did Canelo get the win over Lara?? With lots of bodyshots. What was so ineffective about Canelo's aggression compared to Lara's potshot every minute? Lara barely led even, you can't give him the effective aggressor category. Canelo by a landslide.

Wait a minute, so if what you guys are saying is true. if ineffective aggression isn't good enough to win rounds then how did Canelo get the win over Lara??

Giving credit to ineffective aggression is like rewarding kids with medals just because they competed. Whoever feels that ineffective aggression should be a favoring factor probably grew up receiving those consolation trophies and medals just so their feelings wouldn't get hurt. :lol1:

May weather ran from Delahoya the first 7 rounds Delahoya missed a lot landed some but Floyd ran landed nothing so Yes I would give those rounds to the guy who's trying to make a fight out of it.

Scoring ineffective aggression is why Trinidad "won" against DLH.

You don't get points for swigging at Air and at someones Guard Floyd does.

The answer to the question is no, it should not. But I disagree with the ts assuming that it does not already happen, fact is to many judges already give credit for ineffective aggression. IMHO a lot of the times you see a scorecard that doesn't match reality or the other scorecards it's usually because they felt one fighter deserved the credit as the aggressor regardless of how ineffective it was. Effective Aggression is in the eye of the beholder.