Estrada vs. Marquez

I really liked the first 6 rounds of this fight. Estrada was the more polished of the two but Marquez kept coming but after lil Tyson got dropped, that was it. Estrada too good for him. Tyson should just retire imo. He hasn't been the same in years. He's only 27 this is all he knows. I think Estrada is just better than anyone out there

I really liked the first 6 rounds of this fight. Estrada was the more polished of the two but Marquez kept coming but after lil Tyson got dropped, that was it. Estrada too good for him. Tyson should just retire imo. He hasn't been the same in years.

was this fight not televised in the usa? seems like a missed opportunity to build the gonzalez rematch as a potential card headliner in the usa BeIn in Espanol, few people probably even have the channel. This was FOTN for me. Love watching Estrada and Hernan fight, for different reasons of course. It still blows my mind that Hernan is only 27 with this many tough fights under his belt, that **** isn't healthy. The "prime" has already been beaten out of him.

Marquez could not take a body shot for 2 rounds. That was crazy.

Yea Estrada takes a while to warm up and takes a lot of rounds off , in a rematch with Gonzalez that's gonna cost him. But damn those combinations are beautiful he just needs more killer instinct

I didn't see this thread when i done mine. Sorry and here is the fight for anyone that missed it.

was this fight not televised in the usa? seems like a missed opportunity to build the gonzalez rematch as a potential card headliner in the usa

Ring Magazine should replace Yamanaka with Estrada in the P4P rankings. Estrada is clearly a great fighter and is going to be very tough to beat even for someone like Gonzalez. Already tough to beat for Gonzalez once. I think both are better at 112. I drool at the thought. Hope we get there.

Ring Magazine should replace Yamanaka with Estrada in the P4P rankings. Estrada is clearly a great fighter and is going to be very tough to beat even for someone like Gonzalez.

I see Gonzalez getting past Viloria by late TKO, setting up a rematch with Estrada hopefully early in '16. My e-points will be on Chocolatito. Will be a tremendous fight.

Yeah, honeslty, If Estrada doesn't up his killer instinct, I could see him landing most of the clean hard shots against Gonzalez and losing a decision because of the quiet rounds.... He'll never get a decision against Gonzalez. Just like Marquez against Pacquiao. That's why I was irked that Estrada didn't take out Marquez after the first two knockdowns. He'll need a K.O. to beat Gonzalez.

Yeah, honeslty, If Estrada doesn't up his killer instinct, I could see him landing most of the clean hard shots against Gonzalez and losing a decision because of the quiet rounds.... I don't know that he'd outland him much either. This is the third time he's let an outclassed guy hang around in his last four. Maybe he gets bored? Happens.

He could have basically done tonight what Roman did to Sosa. That's, to me, a difference between the two. Roman would have been cooling his heels about six rounds earlier. Doesn't mean he'd win a rematch. But it's a difference between the two. Yeah, honeslty, If Estrada doesn't up his killer instinct, I could see him landing most of the clean hard shots against Gonzalez and losing a decision because of the quiet rounds....

Estrada's last 7 opponents have a combined 17 losses. Gonzalez's last 7 opponents have a combined 62 losses. Gonzalez is P4P #1 doe, :Flush:. Goddamn boxing hipsters, :grumpy:. About half those losses come from one non-title fight he did basically for free for the locals. Misleading.

Estrada should fight Valentin Leon next. We'll see if that gets Estrada a Top 5 P4P spot like it did for Gonzalez, :wave:.

Well precisely why I said it's dumb......he had everything on a platter to overwhelm Marquez with offense but he decided to let Tyson deliver hismelf to him and lost momentum....he was actually loading up on those uppercuts, but Tyson was prepared to eat them going forward, it was just a waste of time.....this is how Peterson fights a lot of times...everything on a platter to win with offense but makes weird choices in crucial times... His corner were also telling him to take 0 chances...but taking 0 chances against an uncoordinated guy with no defense who you just floored 4 times? It's a bit frustrating to watch... He could have basically done tonight what Roman did to Sosa. That's, to me, a difference between the two. Roman would have been cooling his heels about six rounds earlier. Doesn't mean he'd win a rematch. But it's a difference between the two.

But he wasn't sitting down and staying there like he did to just crush him to the floor four times. Looked like maybe he wanted the highlight reel up top. He got it. When he decided to just take over in four, it was easy for him. Marquez was missing and getting tore up. Well precisely why I said it's dumb......he had everything on a platter to overwhelm Marquez with offense but he decided to let Tyson deliver hismelf to him and lost momentum....he was actually loading up on those uppercuts, but Tyson was prepared to eat them going forward, it was just a waste of time.....this is how Peterson fights a lot of times...everything on a platter to win with offense but makes weird choices in crucial times... His corner were also telling him to take 0 chances...but taking 0 chances against an uncoordinated guy with no defense who you just floored 4 times? It's a bit frustrating to watch...

Estrada's last 7 opponents have a combined 17 losses. Gonzalez's last 7 opponents have a combined 62 losses. Gonzalez is P4P #1 doe, :Flush:. Goddamn boxing hipsters, :grumpy:.

Misuse of words, corrected yet again lol. Indeed it was a fun fight. Estrada was also eating plenty of leather in there, then again, when doesn't he? One down, Viloria vs Gonzalez to go. I'm excited for that one as well, I can't wait. When he decided not to, he stopped getting hit. In rounds four and five, he would get caught occasionally (you're going to with that style), but he was mostly making him miss and countering the hell out of him. Viloria-Gonzalez is a better made fight. Estrada is looking at a hell of a rematch either way. Safe bet is still Roman-Estrada II in the best made little man fight since 1993.

It was a fun fight. Great is a stretch. He let Marquez look like he had more left than he did. Beat the hell out of him for the most part after the third and that was making it harder than he had to. Misuse of words, corrected yet again lol. Indeed it was a fun fight. Estrada was also eating plenty of leather in there, then again, when doesn't he? One down, Viloria vs Gonzalez to go. I'm excited for that one as well, I can't wait.