Manny IMO
Dodged drug testing til he couldn't anymore
Mayweather was championing OSDT
Manny sucked below 122 ko ratio was crappy then starts knocking out guys 126+
Looked faster n stronger
PAC was more likely on PED than money ever was
If you over train you may need to replinish your body it happens with an iv....high school n college wrestlers do this often as well as other sports
PAC on the other hand avoided tests, lied about his shoulder, and his own trainer didn't know what was in his " special shakes" some 7x trainer of the year he was
What pacquiao did is NOTHING SPECIAL AND IN FACT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE IN FAR MORE PRONOUNCED FASHION THAN WHAT PACQUIAO DID.
Exactly what the TS have been posting in his countless non-PED threads. That Pacman is nothing special. He beat low quality opponents and was expected to beat them.
All of a sudden in this thread TS is now saying Pac is a monster. He's not supposed to beat them without roiding. He's too good to be real. Hehe...
See the idiocy of these floydiots? They want all sides of every argument. ;-)
What pacquiao did is NOTHING SPECIAL AND IN FACT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE IN FAR MORE PRONOUNCED FASHION THAT WHAT PACQUIAO DID.
Duran started his career at super bantamweight and ended it knocking out 9 Super middleweights. Duran must have been on PEDs.
Except the IV isn't banned if you have a TUE (which he has), and he did notify USADA.
True or False: Floyd did not have a TUE when the IV was administered...
What the TS is saying is Pac beat his opponents in impressive fashion, while TBE put the audience to sleep. Therefore, Pac should be the one suspected of cheating, not TBE. In other words, TS's a secret Pac fan. "No way he could do that without cheating. It's incredible! He must be on roids."
That's what this thread is all about.
Later, when all these IV thing finally goes away, expect the TS to resume making threads about Pac demonstrating how inferior actually his opponents were. That they're meant to be defeated. In other words, Pac is overrated, his opponents were so low in quality that you don't even need PEDs to beat them.
So which one is it? Depends on the idiotic TS's agenda. Hehe...
Thanks for the entertainment.. :wave:
where did i said you said Floyd is clean?
i said instead of categorically saying Floyd took something sometime, you spin it with 100% of athletes took something sometimes.
meaning that by saying that you clearly mention that since Floyd was an athlete he might have taken something sometime right?
which prove my point that if for some reason Floyd got busted, you will smear everybody else to justify what Floyd did.
what is wrong with your brain?
comprehension.
check all your post that we argued about.
Looool. You're such a bellend.
Where did I say that you said Floyd is clean (hope you are smart enough to follow that).
How the hell would I know specifically when he took something? I wasn't there. Were you?
Christ, you're such a tit.
Loooooooooooool
Loooooool. Me saying "Dunno about that" to someone saying "Floyd is clean" means I don't suspect him of taking something? What sort of world do you live in? Oh, it wasn't "IV gate" up until a couple of weeks ago. It was the same non-story it is now, except you plebs appear to have only just heard about it.
I obviously don't have any evidence of anything, but I know enough about professional sports to know that it's extremely, and I mean extremely rare to have a clean athlete at the top. There's too much at stake for them to avoid the temptation.
where did i said you said Floyd is clean?
i said instead of categorically saying Floyd took something sometime, you spin it with 100% of athletes took something sometimes.
meaning that by saying that you clearly mention that since Floyd was an athlete he might have taken something sometime right?
which prove my point that if for some reason Floyd got busted, you will smear everybody else to justify what Floyd did.
what is wrong with your brain?
comprehension.
check all your post that we argued about.
Where is the evidence that proves any hefty settlement? The terms and details of the settlement went undisclosed due to it being confidential. For all you know, neither paid the other anything.
All you need to know is that Floyd Jr and Floyd snr had to apologize to Pac on record for spreading false accusation against him.
Why do you think they had to do that? Is it because the Mayweather's are kind hearted lol
If you're not cheating why take a banned IV for a pretend dehydration? Then ask for a retroactive TUE weeks later without notifying anyone.
The difference between the two statements is that the latter actually took place. Owned.
Except the IV isn't banned if you have a TUE (which he has), and he did notify USADA.
floyd has a drug testing company in his pocket.
pac doesn't.
floyd has connections to a guy who owns multiple hormone theraphy centers.
pac doesn't.
floyd trains year round and does vampire facials and iv 'vitamin' drips.
pac doesn't.
floyd is surrounded by 250 lb. roided bodybuilders.
pac isn't.
This right here, end of discussion.
If you're not cheating why request a cut off date for testing?
If you're not cheating why take a banned IV for a pretend dehydration? Then ask for a retroactive TUE weeks later without notifying anyone.
The difference between the two statements is that the latter actually took place. Owned.
you did not categorically said you suspect Floyd of taking something right? you made a sweeping statement smearing everybody.
and that was after the IV gate. how convenient.
now tell me when did you suspect Floyd was using something and what makes you think about him that way?
Loooooool. Me saying "Dunno about that" to someone saying "Floyd is clean" means I don't suspect him of taking something? What sort of world do you live in? Oh, it wasn't "IV gate" up until a couple of weeks ago. It was the same non-story it is now, except you plebs appear to have only just heard about it.
I obviously don't have any evidence of anything, but I know enough about professional sports to know that it's extremely, and I mean extremely rare to have a clean athlete at the top. There's too much at stake for them to avoid the temptation.
Here's a post from the "original" saline thread responding to a poster claiming Floyd is clean.
you did not categorically said you suspect Floyd of taking something right? you made a sweeping statement smearing everybody.
and that was after the IV gate. how convenient.
now tell me when did you suspect Floyd was using something and what makes you think about him that way?
if you are as cynical as it gets and you thought floyd has used something at some point, why did you only brought this now?
when did you think Floyd used something
don't you umm ahhh on me
Here's a post from the "original" saline thread responding to a poster claiming Floyd is clean.
Dunno about that. I'm a Floyd fan, but I'd never say with 100% certainty that any athlete is clean.
Loooool. Trouble? What trouble? It's over and done with.
I'm as cynical a person as it gets, so yes, I do genuinely believe he has used something at some point. Heck, he may very well still be.
This "story" however just isn't what you want it to be.
if you are as cynical as it gets and you thought floyd has used something at some point, why did you only brought this now?
when did you think Floyd used something
don't you umm ahhh on me
between the two, who paid a hefty sum for an out of court settlement connected to a defamation suit regarding ped use when asked to produce test results? who?
floyd paying pac on the out of court settlement (when asked to produce his test results) is not a "circumstance" by any stretch...
how dense can you get....
why put a confidentiality clause on a win-win settlement? did you not understand floyd went to the out of court settlement "WHEN" he was asked by pac's lawyers to produce his test results? get real man, you asked me for details yet you yourself knows there was a confidentiality clause....
The chances of both fighters using PEDs are high, whether it be knowingly or unknowingly. However, Floyd is the only one who portrayed himself to be a crusader for a cleaner sport. Oddly enough, he's the only one with rumors floating around about failing 3 drug tests with USADA, along with getting caught using illegal IVs under highly suspicious circumstances.
It should also be noted that a couple of fighters who are promoted by TMT, and train alongside Floyd at his gym, have tested positive for banned substances. And early on in Floyd's career he was involved with Don Hale, a man who owns a multimillion dollar company that specializes in testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).
Here's what Floyd Sr. thinks about Don Hale - “Don Hale was nobody but somebody from hell, that’s who he was. He was the damn devil. I put my son with the devil. That’s what I did. He told some many lies, man."
http://boxingjunkie.com/2015/04/21/floyd-mayweathers-relationship-with-his-white-daddy-is-complicated/
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/azad-championship-report---floyd-mayweather-and-the-new-wave-of-drug-testing-in-boxing
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9076185/mickey-bey-jr-suspended-fined-positive-drug-test
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9278874/middleweight-prospect-jleon-love-fails-drug-test-faces-ban-fine
:popcorn:How to destroy fl0mos. I can't wait for their insults and trying to deflect attention away from their little fraud mayweather.
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