Is Roman Gonzalez really P4P no. 1?

I like his style and he has won titles in three classes and he has the longest winning streak that I know of. I agree he should have more names, but look at the divisions he is in. Brian Viloria will be a name on his ledger. To get some real names, he will have to move on up. If you could beat Rigondeaux, that would be big. There are only ten pounds between them. Rigo would destroy him, probably stop him mid rounds. Weight jumps matter more in the smaller divisions which is why it's already impressive he's in his 3rd division.

floyd was actually p4p #2 after beating herndandez and gatti then they moved him back down because they realized that was insanity. some people just get more hype than others. He was no. 1 by 2005 and his best win was Castillo or Corrales, neither of them a great fighter. So, as I said, it's not all resume, although imo resume should play a big part and in my own personal criterai Floyd wouldn't be p4p no.1 in 2005 and Gonzalez isn't no.1 today.

saying who has roman beat makes you look very silly. he beat the #1 guy at 105 pounds. he beat a guy who is the #2 guy at 105 right now. he beat the lineal champ at 112 and he beat estrada who is the #2 guy at 112 right now(although he did beat him at 108) add to that a couple solid top 10 fighters and his resume seems pretty damn good. just because you don't follow the lower divisions doesn't mean these guys weren't good. also he's a clean fighter not a clinch fighter like wlad so he should get the nod since cheating shouldn't be rewarded.

Were Castillo or Corrales or Brussels or Gatti great fighters? When he became p4p no. 1 in 2005? He was p4p 7 even before he had a corrales or castillo fight under his belt. So it's not just resume that gets you there. floyd was actually p4p #2 after beating herndandez and gatti then they moved him back down because they realized that was insanity. some people just get more hype than others.

Segura was past it. He lost to guys like Edgar Sosa and Brian Viloria. That is NOT good. Are you trolling?

is estrada a great fighter? that propels you to #1 overall status? seriously? talk about smh.... Were Castillo or Corrales or Brussels or Gatti great fighters? When he became p4p no. 1 in 2005? He was p4p 7 even before he had a corrales or castillo fight under his belt. So it's not just resume that gets you there.

Show me his 5 best wins. I will tell you Kesslers. Froch, Andrade, Beyer, Sartison and Mundine. Melindo was an impressive win, I agree with that. But not Segura. Fock no. melindo better than segura? now you're just talking out of your arse lol

honestly wlad klitz deserves to be P4P kang!!!!!!!!! this is just being honest

Show me his 5 best wins. I will tell you Kesslers. Froch, Andrade, Beyer, Sartison and Mundine. Melindo was an impressive win, I agree with that. But not Segura. Fock no. So Segura doesn't count but Beyer, Sartison, Mundine and Andrade do? Yeah that makes total sense.

Estrada lost to Juan Carlos Sanchez... And avenged it by stoppage. Then proceeded to beat Viloria (who was ranked in the ring ratings), Segura and Melindo. He has earned it.

Kessler got a win against Froch. Estrada got no such win. Kessler had a higher KO percentage. Kessler only lost to great fighters like Calzaghe, Ward and Froch (who he was 1-1 against). Estrada lost to Juan Carlos Sanchez... Don't even compare Estrada to Kessler. Estrada has to deserve it first. you don't know what you're talking about. viloria and segura have both featured in reputable p4p lists at certain times in their careers

Ward has defeated proven fighters like Froch and Kessler. Gonzalez is a good fighter, but he is fighting in an EXTREMELY WEAK DIVISION. So beating a champ there doesn't always mean a lot. Gonzalez's resume is not solid, he doesn't have one truly good signature win. the win over estrada is just as good as ward's wins over froch and kessler. what makes kessler so great? losing every big fight he was in except one, which was subsequently reversed in the rematch? i think you put too much stock into name value and for the record 108-115 is perhaps the most exciting region in boxing right now

His resume is too weak to even consider him the P4P #5. 6-10 is acceptable, though. he's beaten two titlists (niida and yaegashi), three fighters who won titles after being beaten by him (takayama, estrada and rodriguez jr) and one former titlist (sosa). that's pretty solid. ward's numbers are only marginally better

Wlad should be #1

so you dont know but you're defending his ranking? I made a thread on it already. I'm not doing your homework for you. With your ole "let me see your answers" ass.

is estrada a great fighter? that propels you to #1 overall status? seriously? I don't know. Watch some of their fights and form your own opinion.

did roman gonzalez beat estrada? SMH i like roman gonzalez, he's just not p4p #1 overall. Double SMH

this just reeks of golden boy shenanigans. How the hell can you name a god damn flyweight whose best win is what edgar sosa #1 overall p4p???? i dont like ward but i would have been fight with him getting that. hell i dont like wladmir's style but naming wladimir #1 is better than naming some 112lb nobody has heard of and who fights in a division WHERE THERE ARE NO GREAT FIGHTERS #overall p4p. sorry boxing hipster douche bags, not buying. he isnt all that either. sure great technique, but he looks like a poor man's verision of ricardo lopez who also didnt get any respect because he hid out at low ass weights instead of moving the fck up. DISHONEST RANKING. DO NOT RESPECT IT. I like roman gonzalez, he is smooth, very well schooled, technically sound, but he is not #1 overall p4p. you should have at least waited until his fight vs viloria who would be his most notable opponent. says a lot. Estrada > Viloria Heck, Estrada has a win over Viloria

I'm talking about talent pool, it was just an example, and youre just prving my point for me: Top middlewight southpaws Andy Lee(who GGG wouldve faced if not for the death of his dad btw) Willie Monroe Billy Joe Saunders Korobov Heiland Full time fighters who have all been hyped prospects and some with extensive amateur backgrounds. Top flyweight southpaws Full time filipino construction workers..... :wave: keep denying the truth. Not that I disagree with your overall point, but without putting actual numbers to what you're saying, it is essentially meaningless.I could say, statisticly speaking, that it is possible that the 263 minimumweight fighters are the greatest fighters to ever walk the planet, and I would be speaking the truth. Context matters.

Ah I agree that he shouldn't have to redo his whole resume but he should have to at least prove that he's fighting at the level he was before. Fighting Paul Smith didn't do it for me personally, so I wouldn't put him as number 2 right now but give him one good win and I might be willing to place him that high. IDK, he looked awfully sharp. I know Smith was not a super six guy level but he is a lhw and looked like a 3rd grader in there against Ward who would be in high school.