James DeGale vs. Lucian Bute

Yeah but those bouts were 5+ years prior and in the mean time there was the brain injury, inactivity, and no decent opponents. So hard to gauge the real value of that win Dirrel was shot too bits ... I love that guy as a fighter with the talent he showed against Froch and Abraham and believe it or not before he fought them he looked terrible... running away from journeymen,but catching them with something clean and beating them but just looking sloppy..but boy when he stepped to Froch and Abrham you could tell he was giving 100% and it was world class so in the mean time whilst he was building himself up fighting the rockins and Derrick colemans of the world post brain injury I thought he could still have it he's just throwing his skills out the window fighting bums and honestly thought the 100% (Froch,Abraham) Dirrel mighyt still have been in him and he'd show up against Degale... but unfortunatly he looked like Dog sh1t ..Totally shot shadow of himself...he def lost a step and a hella lot of speed/reflex

Apparently it's going to be in Canada http://www.rds.ca/combat/boxe/boxe-lucian-bute-affronterait-james-degale-le-14-novembre-au-centre-videotron-de-quebec-1.2600129?localLinksEnabled=false&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed Makes the fight more interesting. DeGale can't afford to switch off as he tends to do.

khomitsky is pretty good actually. he was disgustingly robbed against Stieglitz who was one of the better 168 pounders of the last 5 years. a fight he was winning handily when they stopped it because he didn't have tape on his gloves? i still have no idea what went on there. he also beat some good prospects in etches and buglioni. if those guys are fighting for titles then how is khomitsky who beat them just a journeyman? obviously i am just hyping him up because ggg easily destroyed him Buglioni and Etches are sh1t

I thought he beat Martinez but how healthy was Sergio and how lightly did he take Murray? I thought he lost to Sturm. People just try to say he was robbed in that fight to make him sound better than he is. Sturm lost his previous fight to Macklin and has lost more than half of his recent fights. He's done. Murray went life and death a couple of times with Khomistky who is a journeyman so that's about his real level. Murray is at 168 now, maybe he'll get the chance to be embarrassed by DeGale or Dirrell. khomitsky is pretty good actually. he was disgustingly robbed against Stieglitz who was one of the better 168 pounders of the last 5 years. a fight he was winning handily when they stopped it because he didn't have tape on his gloves? i still have no idea what went on there. he also beat some good prospects in etches and buglioni. if those guys are fighting for titles then how is khomitsky who beat them just a journeyman? obviously i am just hyping him up because ggg easily destroyed him

murray beat martinez according to most and about half the people think he beat sturm. i wouldn't consider that journeyman status since those were 2 of the best in the division. because of politics/luck he didn't get the W so it gives fuel to haters who like to discredit fighters but non biased fans would say he was a top fighter. you can make the argument that 160 was a weak division but to say muray was nothing more than a journeyman isn't fair. oh btw i love ggg I thought he beat Martinez but how healthy was Sergio and how lightly did he take Murray? I thought he lost to Sturm. People just try to say he was robbed in that fight to make him sound better than he is. Sturm lost his previous fight to Macklin and has lost more than half of his recent fights. He's done. Murray went life and death a couple of times with Khomistky who is a journeyman so that's about his real level. Murray is at 168 now, maybe he'll get the chance to be embarrassed by DeGale or Dirrell.

It's not really. Carson Jones has never done anything except push Brook once and get stopped in a rematch. Dirrell has easily handled Abraham and most believe beat Froch who were still two of the recent champions at the weight. Carson Jones is just a tough journeyman who once pushed a top fighter. A bit like Martin Murray. murray beat martinez according to most and about half the people think he beat sturm. i wouldn't consider that journeyman status since those were 2 of the best in the division. because of politics/luck he didn't get the W so it gives fuel to haters who like to discredit fighters but non biased fans would say he was a top fighter. you can make the argument that 160 was a weak division but to say muray was nothing more than a journeyman isn't fair. didn't you just make the arguement that dirrel was a top fighter based on not getting the W to froch yet you call murray a journeyman becaus he didnt' get the W on other figthers home turf? oh the irony... oh btw i love ggg

Yeah but those bouts were 5+ years prior and in the mean time there was the brain injury, inactivity, and no decent opponents. So hard to gauge the real value of that win It's a better single win than any of Golovkin's so I'm surprised you don't rate it.

It's not really. Carson Jones has never done anything except push Brook once and get stopped in a rematch. Dirrell has easily handled Abraham and most believe beat Froch who were still two of the recent champions at the weight. Carson Jones is just a tough journeyman who once pushed a top fighter. A bit like Martin Murray. Yeah but those bouts were 5+ years prior and in the mean time there was the brain injury, inactivity, and no decent opponents. So hard to gauge the real value of that win

Is that like "Carson Jones showed me enough vs Brook to tell me he's a threat to any welter"? Could be Degale is not all that to struggle with a brain patient. We'll see. It's not really. Carson Jones has never done anything except push Brook once and get stopped in a rematch. Dirrell has easily handled Abraham and most believe beat Froch who were still two of the recent champions at the weight. Carson Jones is just a tough journeyman who once pushed a top fighter. A bit like Martin Murray.

bute clearly looks like a shot fighter. afraid to get hit or engage. he still has power though but yea his brain is done.

He showed enough in the DeGale fight to tell me he's clearly better than Bute at the moment. Is that like "Carson Jones showed me enough vs Brook to tell me he's a threat to any welter"? Could be Degale is not all that to struggle with a brain patient. We'll see.

Hard to tell where Dirrell is at now, he got that brain injury and hadn't fought a live body in 5 years before Degale. He showed enough in the DeGale fight to tell me he's clearly better than Bute at the moment.

I don't think Bute has ever been as good as Andre Dirrell, never mind now. Hard to tell where Dirrell is at now, he got that brain injury and hadn't fought a live body in 5 years before Degale.

Bute hasn't made 168 in almost 3 1/2 years and he's lost half of his 4 whole fights in that time. Should have some entertaining moments though. DeGale should put him to sleep in the later rounds after Bute tires. Bute should win some middle rounds that James takes off. He was 170 for his last fight. Highest he's ever been is 173 for Pascal

Bute hasn't made 168 in almost 3 1/2 years and he's lost half of his 4 whole fights in that time. Should have some entertaining moments though. DeGale should put him to sleep in the later rounds after Bute tires. Bute should win some middle rounds that James takes off.

Don't understand the complaints this is a very winnable fight for Bute I see Bute stopping degale in 9 rounds he won't be gunshy vs dégale,I'd say Bute is a better fighter than Andre dirrel at this present time but has better timing and a fast left hand just probably not as good recovery as Dirrel if hurt I don't think Bute has ever been as good as Andre Dirrell, never mind now.

DeGale wins, maybe even by stoppage if he's on point. Be a shame if this fight wasn't in England. Don't understand the complaints this is a very winnable fight for Bute I see Bute stopping degale in 9 rounds he won't be gunshy vs dégale,I'd say Bute is a better fighter than Andre dirrel at this present time but has better timing and a fast left hand just probably not as good recovery as Dirrel if hurt

DeGale wins, maybe even by stoppage if he's on point. Be a shame if this fight wasn't in England. Definitely not going to be in the UK.

DeGale wins, maybe even by stoppage if he's on point. Be a shame if this fight wasn't in England.

He got hurt in the very last round of the fight where he was tired, I wouldn't necessarily say that proved he had no chin. He was already KO'ed in the amateurs by GGG.