Luis Ortiz-Bermane Stiverne being finalized for GGG/Lemeuix undercard?

Jennings is a puss, messed it up for all of us. I don't mind this fight if it can be made. Bermane is a real juggernaut. Should be very entertaining. I don't think he's a coward... I think he's trying to sit out his stint with Shaw

Jennings is a puss, messed it up for all of us. I don't mind this fight if it can be made. Bermane is a real juggernaut. Should be very entertaining.

I hope Stiverne was just sick in the Wilder fight and that wasn't really indicative of his ability. He was extremely sluggish and passive. It's hard to tell because Arreola has slumped a lot too and he's the only measuring stick we have. Interesting fight if it happens. Wilder was just about two classes above him during that fight. Wilder kicked his ass bad. But Stiverne is a quality HW and this should be a good fight

Like twice before when he held the interim title for the WBA That's what I thought, although it's actually a pretty interesting fight if you ask me, N'Dam is nothing if not durable, I don't see him beating GGG but maybe he could end his KO streak.

Didn't N'dam turn down the fight before? Honest question, I am not sure. Like twice before when he held the interim title for the WBA

GGG/N'Dam to end the year wouldn't be that bad. Somebody needs to show that N'Dam can be knocked out. Didn't N'dam turn down the fight before? Honest question, I am not sure.

GGG/N'Dam to end the year wouldn't be that bad. Somebody needs to show that N'Dam can be knocked out. Not to end, more like begin the year in Monaco. I don't think Lee fights GGG off the bat

All I can say is I heard it's bad and we might not even see this fight go off... if it doesn't.... expect N'Dam to get another title shot -_- GGG/N'Dam to end the year wouldn't be that bad. Somebody needs to show that N'Dam can be knocked out.

Id rather see Gonzalez as a main event. He deserves that after beating Pascal Roman Gonzalez

I was wondering if they'd go after Stiverne after Jennings dropped out. This will strengthen the Candadian ppv market, maybe increase the number of Canadians willing to make the flight. Ali said he wanted a tune-up before Bradley and now Timmy's going to fight Rios anyways. Maybe GB gets Bundu to fight him? I expect GB to have Eddie Gomez, Jamie Kavinaugh, and Jason Quigley on the untelevised portion of the card. They'd be smart to reach out to Heather Hardy as well. She could introduce Quigley & Kavinaugh to the NY Irish. I'm surprised no one's been talking about this. Even TJ's TL is silent. Bottom line, Gary Shaw needs to go away. All I can say is I heard it's bad and we might not even see this fight go off... if it doesn't.... expect N'Dam to get another title shot -_-

I'd rather Jennings/Stiverne, but that's probably too much to ask for. As long as Gonzalez is on the undercard, I'm happy. I think Jennings is gonna hit 2 fights a year unless he leaves Shaw and goes to Roc.... i think he's gonna try to wait his contract out

I'd rather Jennings/Stiverne, but that's probably too much to ask for. As long as Gonzalez is on the undercard, I'm happy.

I don't know about this one; I'm not totally excited about it. It could end up being a 'borefest.' I hope I'm wrong

I was wondering if they'd go after Stiverne after Jennings dropped out. This will strengthen the Candadian ppv market, maybe increase the number of Canadians willing to make the flight. Is it asking for too much to have another fight to already stacked card? Maybe have Sadam Ali featured somehow is what I'm thinking. Looking like the year's best card doe Ali said he wanted a tune-up before Bradley and now Timmy's going to fight Rios anyways. Maybe GB gets Bundu to fight him? I expect GB to have Eddie Gomez, Jamie Kavinaugh, and Jason Quigley on the untelevised portion of the card. They'd be smart to reach out to Heather Hardy as well. She could introduce Quigley & Kavinaugh to the NY Irish. I heard Gary Shaw was gonna get the Johnson/O'Kane fight on there....but I also heard there's an ugly situation there brewing and maybe the fight won't happen. I'm surprised no one's been talking about this. Even TJ's TL is silent. Bottom line, Gary Shaw needs to go away.

Why not? He's a new yorker. In the end it depends on their budget....I heard Gary Shaw was gonna get the Johnson/O'Kane fight on there....but I also heard there's an ugly situation there brewing and maybe the fight won't happen. I think if HBO picks up the card for the fight... could for the moment remedy the situation... if money (low purse bid) is the problem Sounds good if true, adding another fight to round of this card will make for an action packed night from top to bottom.

Wow really looking forward to this fight.i wanna see what Ortiz can do against one of the top guys and if bware can Bounce back from that Wilder loss..

That's what I was saying....He's still with Eye of the Tiger management....but Haymon always has last say There's the rub. Be interesting to see if he let's one of the fighters he "advises" fight on HBO PPV

Damn, this would be a good fight. I like Ortiz - really think he can get in the mix.

Is it asking for too much to have another fight to already stacked card? Maybe have Sadam Ali featured somehow is what I'm thinking. Looking like the year's best card doe Why not? He's a new yorker. In the end it depends on their budget....I heard Gary Shaw was gonna get the Johnson/O'Kane fight on there....but I also heard there's an ugly situation there brewing and maybe the fight won't happen. I think if HBO picks up the card for the fight... could for the moment remedy the situation... if money (low purse bid) is the problem

Is it asking for too much to have another fight to already stacked card? Maybe have Sadam Ali featured somehow is what I'm thinking. Looking like the year's best card doe