Boxing "Fans' don't want to see fights because they don't make financial sense, the person that's calling out a certain fighter even though he's ranked highly, even though he could potentially make things interesting, even though it's a fight a lot of people want to see... "he's not a draw".
The Rams playing the Jaguars in the SuperBowl doesn't make financial sense but none of that matters... The two best teams play for the trophy PERIOD! Boxing is the only sport where it's acceptable for a mini Super Bowl to not happen because it's not going to make as much money as other SuperBowl's have or a potential SuperBowl could if you push the team who deserves to be there to the side and just let the Cowboys play instead. It's acceptable because fans accept it... not just casuals... even the supposed "hardcore fans" who post on forums just like NSB it's ridiculous.
I totally agree. Tired of fans talking bout A side and financials and who draws what.
Stay in ur lane , only thing that matters is good fights. Once I start seeing fans talk that bullsh1t it obvious who the fan girls are.
Fan Girls should wear skirts and have pom poms.
Boxing "Fans' don't want to see fights because they don't make financial sense, the person that's calling out a certain fighter even though he's ranked highly, even though he could potentially make things interesting, even though it's a fight a lot of people want to see... "he's not a draw".
The Rams playing the Jaguars in the SuperBowl doesn't make financial sense but none of that matters... The two best teams play for the trophy PERIOD! Boxing is the only sport where it's acceptable for a mini Super Bowl to not happen because it's not going to make as much money as other SuperBowl's have or a potential SuperBowl could if you push the team who deserves to be there to the side and just let the Cowboys play instead. It's acceptable because fans accept it... not just casuals... even the supposed "hardcore fans" who post on forums just like NSB it's ridiculous.
I totally agree. Tired of fans talking bout A side and financials and who draws what.
Stay in ur lane , only thing that matters is good fights. Once I start seeing fans talk that bullsh1t it obvious who the fan girls are.
Fan Girls should wear skirts and have pom poms.
GGG is supposed to be the most feared fighter on the planet and will beat anybody from 154-175.
:lol1::lol1:
Ward called his bluff and took his man card!!!
Ward brings nothing to the table $$$$$$
this is a tough one, I don't rate either guy's record that highly, but the bigger wins of the two are Ward's decisions over Froch and Bika (I don't rate Geale, Macklin, Murray and a skeleton Chad Dawson). Would Golovkin have KO'd all of Ward's opponents? Of course, but that doesn't really mean he would beat Ward. Ward could be the fastest guy Golovkin's ever faced. I actually wouldn't put money on this fight..
I would rank Geale and Murray over freaking Bika. I mean what the hell has Bika done?
At least Geale is a unified champion. And didn't Bika lose to Geale's less accomplished countrymen Sam Soliman?
this is a tough one, I don't rate either guy's record that highly, but the bigger wins of the two are Ward's decisions over Froch and Bika (I don't rate Geale, Macklin, Murray and a skeleton Chad Dawson). Would Golovkin have KO'd all of Ward's opponents? Of course, but that doesn't really mean he would beat Ward. Ward could be the fastest guy Golovkin's ever faced. I actually wouldn't put money on this fight..
ggg said the ward fight would happen after he's done at 160. same thing ward said about kovalev. only difference is ggg has big fights coming up and ward has no big fights coming up. he's simply not fighting kovalev because...i really don't know why. we know why ggg isn't fighting ward, he has unification fights with lemeiux and cotto-canelo. he's trying to make a good resume but you still aren't happy. why don't you pay attention to reality instead of rhetoric. reality is ggg is fighting good fighters in his own division, ward isn't. in the past he did but we aren't in the past anymore. you are getting caught up in the rhetoric which could be used against any fighter. yes ggg said he would fight guys at 168, ward also said he would be a heavyweight someday and beat klitschko.
GGG doesn't have a fight signed beyond Lemueix daggum. You and I both know If cotto wins and Floyd tells the WBC he wants to fight cotto, they will take that fee and tell GGG to go kick rocks, then he is right back to where he started-no quality opponent to fight.
ggg said the ward fight would happen after he's done at 160. same thing ward said about kovalev. only difference is ggg has big fights coming up and ward has no big fights coming up. he's simply not fighting kovalev because...i really don't know why. we know why ggg isn't fighting ward, he has unification fights with lemeiux and cotto-canelo. he's trying to make a good resume but you still aren't happy. why don't you pay attention to reality instead of rhetoric. reality is ggg is fighting good fighters in his own division, ward isn't. in the past he did but we aren't in the past anymore. you are getting caught up in the rhetoric which could be used against any fighter. yes ggg said he would fight guys at 168, ward also said he would be a heavyweight someday and beat klitschko.
No he and his team have all insisted the fight take place at 164. Ward has said he'll go to the full weight limit of 175. That's the difference.
So? Golovkin didn't have a super-six like tournament in his division and now it's his fault and he should look to fight in 3 divisions just for shts & giggles. No one is going out of their way to fight outside of their weightclass unless it's for a big payday.
He was the one that said he was willing to fight in 3 divisions and that no one would fight him! Everyone was running scared!
As soon as someone shows willingness to fight him, Golovkin, his team and his legion of rabid fans think of every excuse for the fight NOT to happen.
Does that make any logical sense?
100% Facts with No Emotional Attachment, I agree 1000% but I get it, certain fans dying for a new Hero in boxing and GGG seems to be that guy now after Pacquiao has fallen. You cannot changed the fact that Ward is proven, GGG is Not, that is just a FACT! That is not hating GGG or anything like that. As for this "A Side" BS, neither are A Sides, both are C's. Only A sides in boxing are Mayweather, Pacquiao and Cotto! After them then you have Canelo! These are guys who generate on their own and when fighters get a shot at them it is usually for a Career High Purse.
that's actually not a fact. that's the opposite of a fact.
Perhaps because GGG's resume is horrendous and he's 33 years old. Plus he's making ridiculous catchtweight demands.
Andre Ward has already proven he's one of the best fighters in the world before he even turned 30. There's a willingness on his side to eventually move up to the full weight limit of 175 and fight Kovalev. Even Kathy Duva has said the fight will happen.
Will Ward-GGG ever happen? We don't know because GGG and his team are a bunch of entitled twats who have done nothing to deserve the lofty position they feel they are in.
So? Golovkin didn't have a super-six like tournament in his division and now it's his fault and he should look to fight in 3 divisions just for shts & giggles. No one is going out of their way to fight outside of their weightclass unless it's for a big payday.
164 is not happening, but the idea that this fight has to happen at 168 is also not helping.
Perhaps because GGG's resume is horrendous and he's 33 years old. Plus he's making ridiculous catchtweight demands.
Andre Ward has already proven he's one of the best fighters in the world before he even turned 30. There's a willingness on his side to eventually move up to the full weight limit of 175 and fight Kovalev. Even Kathy Duva has said the fight will happen.
Will Ward-GGG ever happen? We don't know because GGG and his team are a bunch of entitled twats who have done nothing to deserve the lofty position they feel they are in.
ggg said the ward fight would happen after he's done at 160. same thing ward said about kovalev. only difference is ggg has big fights coming up and ward has no big fights coming up. he's simply not fighting kovalev because...i really don't know why. we know why ggg isn't fighting ward, he has unification fights with lemeiux and cotto-canelo. he's trying to make a good resume but you still aren't happy. why don't you pay attention to reality instead of rhetoric. reality is ggg is fighting good fighters in his own division, ward isn't. in the past he did but we aren't in the past anymore. you are getting caught up in the rhetoric which could be used against any fighter. yes ggg said he would fight guys at 168, ward also said he would be a heavyweight someday and beat klitschko.
His eyebrows look like they're about to burst. Not sure if I could go on boxing if my eyebrows were as soft as Rosado's look.
And his argument really made no sense. It's like saying what the fanboys have been saying "Well, Ward said he'd go down to 160 for Mayweather, so why not 164 for Triple G?".
100% Facts with No Emotional Attachment, I agree 1000% but I get it, certain fans dying for a new Hero in boxing and GGG seems to be that guy now after Pacquiao has fallen. You cannot changed the fact that Ward is proven, GGG is Not, that is just a FACT! That is not hating GGG or anything like that. As for this "A Side" BS, neither are A Sides, both are C's. Only A sides in boxing are Mayweather, Pacquiao and Cotto! After them then you have Canelo! These are guys who generate on their own and when fighters get a shot at them it is usually for a Career High Purse.
the best fight would be ward/kovalev actually. those guys are more proven and closer in weight. so even if we got ward/ggg you would be complaining about how its not ward/kovalev right? i don't think so. floyd fanatics have taken things to a whole different level. they are so mad that everyone calls their favorite fighters duckers that they are trying to retaliate by making new insane rules. guys in completely different divisions are now ducking if they don't move up? that was never the argument used. people just wanted the best in the same division to fight. example floyd-marg, floyd-cotto, ggg-cotto, ggg-martinez, etc...
the saddest part is you only selectively use your own criteria. in the case of ggg-ward ggg is ducking! yet in ward vs kovalev is ward ducking? how come you aren't as belligerent calling ward a ducker? he said he would go up to light heavy years ago! why aren't you using that as ammunition? you keep saying ggg would fight at 168 over and over yet don't use wards own words against him.
this is an example of being biased. don't you want to be consistent? if you think not fighting someone in a bigger division is ducking then stick to it and call ward a ducker just like ggg. if you think that a fighter should try to fight the best in his division then stick to it and call ward a ducker for avoiding bute, stevenson, froch 2, and trying to fight caleb truax, periban, sartison, and paul smith.
Perhaps because GGG's resume is horrendous and he's 33 years old. Plus he's making ridiculous catchtweight demands.
Andre Ward has already proven he's one of the best fighters in the world before he even turned 30. There's a willingness on his side to eventually move up to the full weight limit of 175 and fight Kovalev. Even Kathy Duva has said the fight will happen.
Will Ward-GGG ever happen? We don't know because GGG and his team are a bunch of entitled twats who have done nothing to deserve the lofty position they feel they are in.
the best fight would be ward/kovalev actually. those guys are more proven and closer in weight. so even if we got ward/ggg you would be complaining about how its not ward/kovalev right? i don't think so. floyd fanatics have taken things to a whole different level. they are so mad that everyone calls their favorite fighters duckers that they are trying to retaliate by making new insane rules. guys in completely different divisions are now ducking if they don't move up? that was never the argument used. people just wanted the best in the same division to fight. example floyd-marg, floyd-cotto, ggg-cotto, ggg-martinez, etc...
the saddest part is you only selectively use your own criteria. in the case of ggg-ward ggg is ducking! yet in ward vs kovalev is ward ducking? how come you aren't as belligerent calling ward a ducker? he said he would go up to light heavy years ago! why aren't you using that as ammunition? you keep saying ggg would fight at 168 over and over yet don't use wards own words against him.
this is an example of being biased. don't you want to be consistent? if you think not fighting someone in a bigger division is ducking then stick to it and call ward a ducker just like ggg. if you think that a fighter should try to fight the best in his division then stick to it and call ward a ducker for avoiding bute, stevenson, froch 2, and trying to fight caleb truax, periban, sartison, and paul smith.
Come on daggum kov/Stevenson is the best fight for kov and ward/ggg is the best fight for GGG. I did not say ducking did I?
because ward isn't the focus of the discussion the A side GGG is. That's the thing with the spotlight, it shines on your weaknesses and your strengths equally.
You and the other assclowns decided to set the standard on NSB when guys you hated were on top. Now that its guys you love and they are being held to the same retarded standards you and others like you created you wanna cry.
GTFOH and go put your big boy pants on. Maybe next time you will not create retarded standards to measure boxers by. BTW, is GGG undefeated because "he hasn't fought everyone he should"?
Ward/GGG and Kov/Stevenson fight. Ward should then fight Kov if he wins. If GGG wins, he can do whatever he wants at 160 or 168.
the only thing wrong with it is it isn't the best fight-ward/GGG is.
NSB has made it such that if you do not fight the "best opponent" you will face criticism.
Maybe we need to get rid of the absolute retarded fuccboys that started this stuff.
I will be watching, I know you will too.
the best fight would be ward/kovalev actually. those guys are more proven and closer in weight. so even if we got ward/ggg you would be complaining about how its not ward/kovalev right? i don't think so. floyd fanatics have taken things to a whole different level. they are so mad that everyone calls their favorite fighters duckers that they are trying to retaliate by making new insane rules. guys in completely different divisions are now ducking if they don't move up? that was never the argument used. people just wanted the best in the same division to fight. example floyd-marg, floyd-cotto, ggg-cotto, ggg-martinez, etc...
the saddest part is you only selectively use your own criteria. in the case of ggg-ward ggg is ducking! yet in ward vs kovalev is ward ducking? how come you aren't as belligerent calling ward a ducker? he said he would go up to light heavy years ago! why aren't you using that as ammunition? you keep saying ggg would fight at 168 over and over yet don't use wards own words against him.
this is an example of being biased. don't you want to be consistent? if you think not fighting someone in a bigger division is ducking then stick to it and call ward a ducker just like ggg. if you think that a fighter should try to fight the best in his division then stick to it and call ward a ducker for avoiding bute, stevenson, froch 2, and trying to fight caleb truax, periban, sartison, and paul smith.
Is there something wrong with the fight? It's a very solid fight. "Great" is Mayweather vs Pacquiao, although that turned out to be a stinker, but this is a unification bout which is always great to see happen. One step closer to a single champion (something fans typically hope for).
Lemieux is coming off a couple good wins, he's looked good picking up a title and he's created a bit of a buzz. Sure Golovkin is a big favorite but that has more to do with how good people believe Golovkin is, not an indication it's a crappy fight. There isn't another middleweight in the world who would be a 14-1 favorite over Lemieux (would Cotto even be favored? Would Quillin or Andy Lee be huge favorites?) That of course isn't to say Lemieux is some great fighter, of course we still don't know if he's the same guy that lost to Rubio when he was 22 years old or whatever, or if he's legitimately improved. No matter what the case, at the very least the guy has legit power so there's always that. The important thing here is it's a unification match and a fairly big fight that has huge ramifications (a GGG win will put him in prime position for Canelo/Cotto and a Lemieux win would change the entire landscape of a couple weight classes to say the least).
All in all, this is a very interesting fight that screams high entertainment on paper.
It's also a little refreshing to see this fight actually being made since too often guys win a first title and then fight soft touches for a while before fighting someone good again, which seemed was where Lemieux was headed based off Gomez and Oscars comments talking about Lemieux fighting a couple times before Golovkin. Really glad they came together.
the only thing wrong with it is it isn't the best fight-ward/GGG is.
NSB has made it such that if you do not fight the "best opponent" you will face criticism.
Maybe we need to get rid of the absolute retarded fuccboys that started this stuff.
I will be watching, I know you will too.
Starts the interview saying Ward shouldn't have to move down, then finishes saying Ward will outmuscle Golovkin. Gabe skips the part where Ward said he'd move down to 160 for Floyd. When Ward has something to bring to the table then they can talk 168, same logic Ward's using for Kovalev.
So GGG moves up to save Ward from moving up??? Golovkin is in a great fight coming up. Ward has nothing coming up. Then GGG will wait for the Cotto Canelo winner while Ward waits on nothing. Who exactly need who??? Ward needs to just move on and go to 175. Lol at anything Rosado has to say. He's a glorified Bum.
GGG couldn't KO that glorified bum.
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