What Really Happened on our Fight of the Century

lmao fight of the century that wasn't even fight of the hour or fight of the weekend I think by now we could all understand the frustration these two super skilled legends had us in. Those two mofos are just too skilled to give us an entertaining fight!lol

there was no schooling in that fight. At ALL! It's the truth man, I'm a floyd fan too, but I now realized after watching it in frame by frame slow motion replay mode that there is no schooling or anything remotely close to that. If anything, manny had landed the more meaningful and effective punches between the two, and this is despite him fighting floyd's pace and style. Quite astonishing really.

Stfu Floyd schooled manny "30 punches a round" pacquio You have to watch it in frame by frame slow motion replay mode and you'll see the absurdity of those compubox boys.

Fight was very close but the Floyds refuse to admit it because for so many years they claimed Floyd was such a superior boxer and would easily outbox Manny. But what happened was a pure boxing match and their hero really couldn't figure Manny out, so he just played it safe. Floyd really just fought to survive and not end up like Cotto and Margarito. The commentary was very bias but what to expect when the biggest fight in boxing is between a foreigner and an American. They obviously going to favor their country man. The only problem I really had through was the compubox counting punches that tapped and even missed. I mean theyre instances were the compubox state are showing and you see them counting punches Floyd miss but not Manny's. Fight was mostly a cash grab anyway and a spectacle to call Floyd the best, there was only one outcome and that had been decided long before the fight. Yeah man that's what amazes me, despite Pacquiao being successfully lured by Floyd on his own pace and style, whether by accident or not, fact is, pacquiao fought floyd in pure boxing chess match and this isn't supposed to be his territory/style, surprisingly, manny didn't just do well against floyd but watching it frame by frame in slow motion replay, he made floyd missed a LOT in astonishingly inch by inch manner; --I mean a lot of floyd pot shots were literally just grazing by a hairline, and you know what's more astonishing, pacquiao was able to counter floyd with amazing accuracy and great timing at varied angles at times, a lot of these things you will miss in fight live because they are drawn within a hairline and inch by inch distance, that's how good these legends were in that night, their distance range control is too friggin awesome! This is something that I only realized once I viewed it on frame by frame slow motion replay mode. My eyes literally popped! And as for the compubox boys, they are not worth mentioning because they did a poor job in that fight, when you watch it in frame by frame replay, you could see how awful their work is. But now worries it's not how the fight is being scored anyway, but, I understand the need for objectivity and we can't ever have one as long as they won't find a way to incorporate replay in their scoring system in the future.

I guess I can change up and be manipulated by Lederman and Farhood instead. Sorry dude but lederman and farhood only called what they saw. That what they saw was consistent with 95% of people that watched the fight is telling. Your post illustrates my point perfectly. There were no problems with how the fight was scored. The problem was Manny's inability to cut off the ring and Floyd's right hand. It would just be nice to discuss the fight in terms of what went on in the ring.

This is some truth now. All these guys which tell us about scooling look only to one component of the game - ring generalship. This was the easyest component to judge. Other 3 components are too difficult for judging for an average fan. So these guys listen to kelerman, johnes, compubox, etc. Instead of carefully watching the fight by theirselves.

What really happened is Manny was misled. He was misled by Delahoya, Arum, Roach. He believed that Mayweather possessed very little power and once the bell rung, May's punches had a little bit more pop than he expected. Plus Pac had issues with a long jab, most fighters he had fought had little to no jab. Basically it was a learning experience all around.

It's amazing that through frame by frame replays you could really watch how these two legends at the pinnacle of their skills work. What is really amazing to me is that pacquiao who clearly fought floyd's game whether he planned it or floyd has able to lure him into it was able to neutralize floyd defensively and floyd was missing his punches all over in inches by inches, and although pacquiao was expected to miss a lot due to the defensive prowess of floyd, which he did, pacquiao clearly landed the more meaningful and effective clean punches in the fight and this is undeniable. Now, we as floyd fans, was hypocritically saying that floyd had clearly schooled or dominated the fight, we want it so badly that we are beginning to believe it ourselves, but it's really not the fact, the actual fight is so VERY VERY VERY close. Do not listen to the jim lampley, roy jones or any of the compubox mumbo jumbo because it's all flawed and subjective, trust your eyes, watch it frame by frame in slow motion because that is the real deal and you will see the truth. And the truth is the fight could go either way because it's that close. The truth is manny pacquiao is the one who landed the more meaningful and clean effective punches, floyd missed a LOT too and I mean a LOT as much as pacquiao did. Here is the real score and what it's suppose to be, if we are to apply the actual basis on how this game is scored in today's boxing standard: Clean effective punching: Manny Effective aggressiveness: Manny Ring Generalship: Floyd Defense: Floyd No way you could argue with that because first of all, clean effective punching belongs clearly to Manny, No way you can fool a frame by frame, slow motion nowadays. Secondly, effective aggressiveness still belongs to manny because first of all, floyd isn't aggressive at all, why would a judge give this to floyd that's ridiculous, a guy who isn't aggressive at all can't be effective. And although manny's aggressiveness is being tamed by floyd's effective defense, it is Manny Pacquiao who is the more assertive and aggressive between the two so clearly this factor is in Manny Pacquiao's favor. Thirdly, ring generalship belongs clearly to Floyd, no way it's going to belong to Manny because the flow and pace of the fight was in floyd's favor, Manny fought floyd's pace and style. No way to argue about this. Fourthly, although both are superb defensively, and if you watch it frame by frame in slow motion, it could go either way,but for me, I'll give it to floyd because clearly he was able to tame Pacquiao's supposedly overwhelming offensive game and usual output. ***Okay so do you guys/gals see the flaw in today's scoring system? You're not alone, what is wrong here is that they made the scoring a subjective type instead of an objective one like most other modern sports. Why would they make such a thing? Why make it harder to score for themselves than it really is specially with today's technology is a great puzzle to us. Maybe they are stuck in the old traditional ways and still afraid of change or maybe they want to purposely control and from time to time encourage controversial decisions themselves so that they can skew/favor the result of the fight to the fighter which will benefit their own business welfare in the long run, we really do not know the real answer. But one thing we know is, clearly, this system does not work anymore because it has resulted in too many controversial decisions, the list of controversial and flawed decisions are already too long to count that you just have to accept it. Bottom-line: We now have the technology in our hands and this isn't 1800's anymore, change the scoring system and find a way to incorporate replay system with it; --every modern sports now have incorporated replay in their scoring system, why does the most dangerous sport in modern times, where every punch thrown can cause hematoma and death to human being still doesn't have the luxury of a truly accurate objective scoring system? Basketball has one now, Tennis has one now and a countless many other modern sports, and that's ridiculous because that's not so dangerous as boxing. Come on, it's time to change. In conclusion, there is no heroism nor celebration here for the fans, the fight of century is so awful for the casuals because they cancel out each other, only us, true hardcores of the game can appreciate the skill level involved in that fight. The fact is, both of them are so good at evading each others arsenal and the thinking part of the game that they could go on forever like that and no eventful thing will happen. Pacquiao fought floyd's game whether his team planned it or lured by floyd and whatnot and that's what happened, they cancel out each other, they are so so good defensively that the fight ended that way till the end. effective aggression: manny lololololololololol

By the way, it wasn't the fight of the year for me, let alone fight of the century. Even hype-wise, people were more crazy about many fights more than that one. It was a money fight, like Tyson vs Lewis.

Manny did good job his age relatively to all the wars he has been through, and after the most devastating loss of his career and few years of trash fight, I think Manny should be praised for the work he put in that fight.

This has to be the hardest any fan base has taken a loss. It almost makes me feel bad for them. Almost.

what really happened? the one who likes mango's found out very quickly that he wasn't as good as the one he was fighting. then he started making excuses and subsequently losing fans.

I think we need to stop referring to this fight as the fight of the century. Wasn't even fight of the night.

here you go guys... http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=668284

Fight was very close but the Floyds refuse to admit it because for so many years they claimed Floyd was such a superior boxer and would easily outbox Manny. But what happened was a pure boxing match and their hero really couldn't figure Manny out, so he just played it safe. Floyd really just fought to survive and not end up like Cotto and Margarito. The commentary was very bias but what to expect when the biggest fight in boxing is between a foreigner and an American. They obviously going to favor their country man. The only problem I really had through was the compubox counting punches that tapped and even missed. I mean theyre instances were the compubox state are showing and you see them counting punches Floyd miss but not Manny's. Fight was mostly a cash grab anyway and a spectacle to call Floyd the best, there was only one outcome and that had been decided long before the fight.

It's amazing that through frame by frame replays you could really watch how these two legends at the pinnacle of their skills work. What is really amazing to me is that pacquiao who clearly fought floyd's game whether he planned it or floyd has able to lure him into it was able to neutralize floyd defensively and floyd was missing his punches all over in inches by inches, and although pacquiao was expected to miss a lot due to the defensive prowess of floyd, which he did, pacquiao clearly landed the more meaningful and effective clean punches in the fight and this is undeniable. Now, we as floyd fans, was hypocritically saying that floyd had clearly schooled or dominated the fight, we want it so badly that we are beginning to believe it ourselves, but it's really not the fact, the actual fight is so VERY VERY VERY close. Do not listen to the jim lampley, roy jones or any of the compubox mumbo jumbo because it's all flawed and subjective, trust your eyes, watch it frame by frame in slow motion because that is the real deal and you will see the truth. And the truth is the fight could go either way because it's that close. The truth is manny pacquiao is the one who landed the more meaningful and clean effective punches, floyd missed a LOT too and I mean a LOT as much as pacquiao did. Here is the real score and what it's suppose to be, if we are to apply the actual basis on how this game is scored in today's boxing standard: Clean effective punching: Manny Effective aggressiveness: Manny Ring Generalship: Floyd Defense: Floyd No way you could argue with that because first of all, clean effective punching belongs clearly to Manny, No way you can fool a frame by frame, slow motion nowadays. Secondly, effective aggressiveness still belongs to manny because first of all, floyd isn't aggressive at all, why would a judge give this to floyd that's ridiculous, a guy who isn't aggressive at all can't be effective. And although manny's aggressiveness is being tamed by floyd's effective defense, it is Manny Pacquiao who is the more assertive and aggressive between the two so clearly this factor is in Manny Pacquiao's favor. Thirdly, ring generalship belongs clearly to Floyd, no way it's going to belong to Manny because the flow and pace of the fight was in floyd's favor, Manny fought floyd's pace and style. No way to argue about this. Fourthly, although both are superb defensively, and if you watch it frame by frame in slow motion, it could go either way,but for me, I'll give it to floyd because clearly he was able to tame Pacquiao's supposedly overwhelming offensive game and usual output. ***Okay so do you guys/gals see the flaw in today's scoring system? You're not alone, what is wrong here is that they made the scoring a subjective type instead of an objective one like most other modern sports. Why would they make such a thing? Why make it harder to score for themselves than it really is specially with today's technology is a great puzzle to us. Maybe they are stuck in the old traditional ways and still afraid of change or maybe they want to purposely control and from time to time encourage controversial decisions themselves so that they can skew/favor the result of the fight to the fighter which will benefit their own business welfare in the long run, we really do not know the real answer. But one thing we know is, clearly, this system does not work anymore because it has resulted in too many controversial decisions, the list of controversial and flawed decisions are already too long to count that you just have to accept it. Bottom-line: We now have the technology in our hands and this isn't 1800's anymore, change the scoring system and find a way to incorporate replay system with it; --every modern sports now have incorporated replay in their scoring system, why does the most dangerous sport in modern times, where every punch thrown can cause hematoma and death to human being still doesn't have the luxury of a truly accurate objective scoring system? Basketball has one now, Tennis has one now and a countless many other modern sports, and that's ridiculous because that's not so dangerous as boxing. Come on, it's time to change. In conclusion, there is no heroism nor celebration here for the fans, the fight of century is so awful for the casuals because they cancel out each other, only us, true hardcores of the game can appreciate the skill level involved in that fight. The fact is, both of them are so good at evading each others arsenal and the thinking part of the game that they could go on forever like that and no eventful thing will happen. Pacquiao fought floyd's game whether his team planned it or lured by floyd and whatnot and that's what happened, they cancel out each other, they are so so good defensively that the fight ended that way till the end. Cool and dandy BUT...fights are NOT scored in "super slow-motion, frame-by-frame" etc. They are scored live, round by round. Do judges see every little aspect? No. But, its their job to be objective and non-bias. Its perfect? No. Does it works? Yes.

lmao fight of the century that wasn't even fight of the hour or fight of the weekend :lol1: i've seen better fights in hockey pads and skates

"Clean effective punching: Manny " please close this thread, this is ridiculous....jeez

No matter what you say to a mayweather fan....it won't get through there cranium and register with them....most of them are either inbred.....racist......or woman beaters and there part of mayweather brothers Union of retards.......no way on earth did floyd win by more than a round.....should have been a draw or each fighter by a round......jnr didn't didn't dominate the fight the way the commentators made you believe......at first I scored it for floyd 8-4 when I wqtxhed it live......my opinion has changed a lot after watching it numerous times to a very close split decision.......mayweather pulled off an illusion and pacquaio was unfortunately the White rabbit out the hat.....should be a rematch next year.......:nutkick:

After the fight people thought Floyd had done better than he really had, because it was a case of Pac not looking himself for some reason, and they de duced it must be because of the success of Floyd. But it was a close fight. Some of the slo mos of Floyd prodding punches shouldn't really have been scored but I bet they were.