So I watched Southpaw on Thursday night...My Analysis

Saw Southpaw today quite enjoyed it. The p Good post, I agree.

Saw Southpaw today quite enjoyed it. The p[erson that stole the movie was the little girl playing Billy Hope's daughter That little girl can act

lol @ better than Raging Bull and Rocky. Combined. :boxing:

lol @ better than Raging Bull and Rocky.

I agree with this. I haven't seen the movie this thread is about, but this happens all the time. I often love movies, google it and see crappy critic ratings. Or I won't watch a film because of critic reviews, then later on end up watching it and loving it. Flip-side is true as well, critics love a movie that really isn't that good. Audience scores are usually much better indications. You are going to watch it regardless though, right?

WAR Southpaw!! :headbang: bumped for relevance

Danny Leigh would be the man to review this film. He loves boxing and movies. (and naturally loves boxing movies) He's written this but it's not a review http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jul/12/jake-gyllenhaal-im-fascinated-with-what-it-is-to-be-a-man Even if he rates it poorly, he's still just one person. I mean, i've met boxing fans and non-fans alike tho thought Rocky was overrated and boring, that doesn't shake my thought that it's one of the greatest movies of all time, boxing aside.

I watch all the boxing movies, except for that last one sly and Dinero did. So I'll watch this one too, Jake is a heck of an actor, we don't get that kind of talent in boxing movies very often, and know he put his all inti this because he desperately wants to shed the broke back mountain image. Really sucks 50 cent is in this, can't Hollywood find some black guys who can actually act? I haven't seen the sly/deniro one either now that you mention it, I wonder how it stacks up against other boxing movies.

Danny Leigh would be the man to review this film. He loves boxing and movies. (and naturally loves boxing movies) He's written this but it's not a review http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jul/12/jake-gyllenhaal-im-fascinated-with-what-it-is-to-be-a-man

I watch all the boxing movies, except for that last one sly and Dinero did. So I'll watch this one too, Jake is a heck of an actor, we don't get that kind of talent in boxing movies very often, and know he put his all inti this because he desperately wants to shed the broke back mountain image. Really sucks 50 cent is in this, can't Hollywood find some black guys who can actually act?

Saw the movie and everything was great but the boxing parts. As soon as the movie started to focus on the boxing aspect of the sorry it started to fall apart. Jake was good as always. And his performance really does deserve an Oscar nomination. He and also are two of the best actors out who haven't been properly awarded. Whitaker was dreadful however. I don't know what happened to this guy but he has been hamming it up lately. Really bad performance. I think they went with an to obvious of an ending. And should have went with something a little more darker instead of the good guy barely beats his nemesis plot. I also hated the scenes where Whitaker is teaching Billy Hope defense. It's just silly to me that a boxing movie would depict a 43-0 fighter and world champion as having zero defense. I guess since I'm a boxing and know it's almost impossible for anyone to accomplish that without knowing defense. Tell that to the morons in here who make ignorant statements like "Maidana/Margarito are face first brawlers".

You sure you aren't saying this because you area already an enormous fan of the sport? No, I have made two seperate analyses of this film, one as a boxing fan and one as a movie buff, this is my boxing fan assessment, my movie buff review I posted on a different site. Even if I wasn't a boxing fan I would consider this an instant classic film, but I made this thread moreso to discuss the boxing realism and feel in the film specifically.

My main gripe with the film is there was no progression or plot development what so ever. "Rushed" would be an understatement. SPOILERS; He goes from 43-0 Undisputed World Champion (I'm assuming superstar by his house, cars etc? but they don't really let the audience know his level of stardom) hen his wife dies basically immediately after the first fight, his life instantly spirals out of control, gets knocked out in his next fight, immediately goes to Whitakers gym, does some training, learns how to defend, fights a charity exhibition, gets a title shot against his rival, wins, the end. That's all in the space of what? A few months? His daughter was in care of 60 days whilst all of this was going on. 60 days.... Can't I get some development? Can't we see the demons he's facing as his life's going out of control and his journey getting over them more closely? They talk about drugs and alcohol through the film but you never see him actually take any. Can't we see him struggle whilst he's training and learning new tricks not have one session on defense and suddenly he's a mixture of Roberto Duran and Floyd Mayweather? The guy has a charity exhibition then jumps straight into a title shot after getting knocked out in his previous fight. The guy sounds punch drunk in the whole film. That's intentional i'm assuming so surely it would take longer than one training session for him to reach these new heights. Of course the switching southpaw ending just beyond ridiculous. Overall I'd give the film 6/10.

Maybe Billy Hope was like Golovkin and let guys hit him in the face on purpose. That's why he had to learn defense when he finally fought someone who was elite. :lol1: Seriously? I wish I could have been there to see that. Yeah, he was right there in front of me. Talked to him for a few minutes while we were in the popcorn line also. He told me how Brook lowballed him during negotiations, wouldn't let him use his gloves and how he wasn't cool with the rematch clause.

So did it end up having to do anything with a southpaw stance or not? Oh yeah, it did. But don't worry, only in the most ridiculous way ever.

Distinctly average film. Comparing it to a masterpiece such as Raging Bull is a huge insult.

I also hated the scenes where Whitaker is teaching Billy Hope defense. It's just silly to me that a boxing movie would depict a 43-0 fighter and world champion as having zero defense. I guess since I'm a boxing and know it's almost impossible for anyone to accomplish that without knowing defense. Maybe Billy Hope was like Golovkin and let guys hit him in the face on purpose. That's why he had to learn defense when he finally fought someone who was elite. I watched the movie last night. I was sitting two rows behind Brandon Rios and it was hilarious to see his reaction when Victor Ortiz appeared on the screen. :lol1: Seriously? I wish I could have been there to see that.

I watched the movie last night. I was sitting two rows behind Brandon Rios and it was hilarious to see his reaction when Victor Ortiz appeared on the screen.

So did it end up having to do anything with a southpaw stance or not?

A buddy of mine from the gym told me it was great. He's a big boxing guy and trains and spars so after hearing from him I got to see it now.