Mikey garcia gives details of top rank legal battle: "they didn't offer any fights"

that's 2. and those 2 are the exception not the norm. mikey was making good money. and those "SIGN EXTENSION AND I'LL GET YOU THIS" is when he would have made even more. ask bradley and pac. arum is a businessman he'll pay to keep those he wants to keep. Forgot Cotto as well. Cotto kind of did his thing on the quiet though. Has never publicly said anything bad about Arum and company until recently. Cotto shut his mouth, then when his contract was up he went a did a few fights and got his payday against Floyd. Came back to Arum for a fight or two and then signed with Roc Nation. Guess he saw the money was better outside of Top Rank. The weird one is Tim Bradley. I mean he can't draw but gets real good paydays. And Bob seems happy to just keep paying him. His level of opposition seems to be dropping but he still gets paid.

How much was Mikey Garcia suppose to get for that fight? I don't remember the details but I do remember he was suppose to fight Gamboa. About 1.2-1.5M was the last offer...

Argh the Andre Ward legal defence - I'm trying to break free from my promoter whilst legally bound and my promoter still isn't giving me any fights derppppp

ummm... chavez jr. made money. that crap hurt pac or bradley? Bradley is an odd situation; proven fighter who can't seemingly draw anywhere seemed to flatly have decided to take the biggest guarantee contract that Arum would give him, and ride out the rest of his career plugging away against whomever Top Rank puts him in, competition be damned. And Pacquiao? He's literally banked twice the number of money fights that Mayweather has had, yet has walked away with less than half of the money that Mayweather's been able to generate. Maybe Pacquiao should've asked a couple more questions.

You know what's kind of weird is the fighters that seem to be a bit smarter as far as what's involved on the business side of boxing are the ones who have problems with Top Rank. Not even "smarter" per se; it's just the fighters who are curious to know stuff seem to run into all of the problems with Arum.

like who? only one who left and got better was floyd. rest didn't really make more. oscar? but he came back and dealt with arum. So did Floyd. And Cotto.

the dummy is the moron who told arum he wanted to leave. Once a fighter sues a promoter for the Ali act, there's nothing to be said, breach of contract is what they're looking for. The real sad part in all this, is how no one is questioning, how TR keeps putting fighters in endless contracts and managers keep letting their fighters sign those contracts, the entire purpose of the manager is to look out for the fighter and not the promoter, hell, we don't even know how many fighters have these contracts because most of them are conformed with a single promoter, but the second the fighter realizes that there's no end insight, he has to take action. Could he have kept quiet and acted like most fighters and stayed with 1 promoter, yup, but he doesn't want to be locked down with 1 promoter for the rest of his career, win or lose, something needs to change on who revises these contracts, obviously there's a problem on who's really looking out for the fighters in TR.

Those are the ones i'm talking about, Oscar, Floyd, now Mikey. Just seems like they are the ones to ask questions and want to be a bit more involved business wise. Top Rank doesn't seem to like that, they just want them to shut up and fight. Both Oscar and Floyd made their biggest paydays once they left Top Rank. Arum didn't want to match them together and said Floyd was asking for too much, and look what happened when they made the fight. that's 2. and those 2 are the exception not the norm. mikey was making good money. and those "SIGN EXTENSION AND I'LL GET YOU THIS" is when he would have made even more. ask bradley and pac. arum is a businessman he'll pay to keep those he wants to keep.

like who? only one who left and got better was floyd. rest didn't really make more. oscar? but he came back and dealt with arum. Those are the ones i'm talking about, Oscar, Floyd, now Mikey. Just seems like they are the ones to ask questions and want to be a bit more involved business wise. Top Rank doesn't seem to like that, they just want them to shut up and fight. Both Oscar and Floyd made their biggest paydays once they left Top Rank. Arum didn't want to match them together and said Floyd was asking for too much, and look what happened when they made the fight.

I don't even bother correcting these dummies anymore. the dummy is the moron who told arum he wanted to leave.

And get stuck in quasi-Chavez Jr perpetual hell ( "we'll get you the Martinez if you give us two more fights before walking ... we'll give you the Golovkin fight, if you give us another option fight after that")? gtfoh. ummm... chavez jr. made money. that crap hurt pac or bradley?

You know what's kind of weird is the fighters that seem to be a bit smarter as far as what's involved on the business side of boxing are the ones who have problems with Top Rank. like who? only one who left and got better was floyd. rest didn't really make more. oscar? but he came back and dealt with arum.

****ing retard in the background at the end messing with a good interview. ANYHOW, good share! It's hard to know who to believe in these situations. Bob says Garcia has a distorted idea of his worth as a fighter which I DO believe because Mikey strikes me as a little bish. BUT Bob is also a trickster, even though I like him lol. We'll see how this plays out. I like and enjoy the drama though.

You know what's kind of weird is the fighters that seem to be a bit smarter as far as what's involved on the business side of boxing are the ones who have problems with Top Rank.

Eh, it's over for the guy. He'll get his "freedom" and then get ktfo by a nobody. Just finish your contract, continue to win and then leave. TR and other promotional companies put in millions of dollars during the build up phase before they make any money. They deserve to make a ROI. The PBC model is going to be interesting. All their top guys, even Floyd were developed by another company, so I'm curious about their prospect model on the future The PBC model is different, in the sense that their fighters get minimal signing bonuses, get kept seemingly as busy as their camps are willing to push them on cards around the country, and only have to pay out anything to Haymon once they've started being a bankable commodity (according to the leaked contract example, Haymon has set that value at $150k purses and beyond). It's a riskier gambit by the fighters with Haymon, but if they measure up, they're positioned to put a ton more money in their own pockets than a fighter who took the security of a promoter's advance. Longterm, personally, I think the PBC model is better for developing prospects too; basically, PBC prospects are supposed to constantly keep fit and get their opponents on 4-6 week, or less (with basically styles that could be anything, as Haymon can and does bring in any and every fighter not tied down to HBO or HBO-affiliated companies). You give a fighter 15-20 fights of that and just imagine how polished they'd come out when given a full 10-12 week camp or longer to prep for an opponent. You may end up with some 19-1 to 17-3 prospects, but they'd likely all be better fighters for it.

arum got him 34 fights in 7-8 yrs. fights on tv, fights in vegas, l.a., n.y. he got paid good. his dumbass should have finished his TR deal then jumped ship. but no he tried to break his contract. too stupid. And get stuck in quasi-Chavez Jr perpetual hell ( "we'll get you the Martinez if you give us two more fights before walking ... we'll give you the Golovkin fight, if you give us another option fight after that")? gtfoh.

Everything that Arum offered was contingent on Garcia agreeing to fight under the Top Rank banner for the rest of his career. The price was too high to pay. I don't even bother correcting these dummies anymore.

Eh, it's over for the guy. He'll get his "freedom" and then get ktfo by a nobody. Just finish your contract, continue to win and then leave. TR and other promotional companies put in millions of dollars during the build up phase before they make any money. They deserve to make a ROI. The PBC model is going to be interesting. All their top guys, even Floyd were developed by another company, so I'm curious about their prospect model on the future

Mikey garcia is a bytch... Top rank took him to the top and was in line for a manny fight.. Garcia is an idiot Everything that Arum offered was contingent on Garcia agreeing to fight under the Top Rank banner for the rest of his career. The price was too high to pay.

Top rank wants to make money I'd believe a lot of sneaky stuff about how they conduct business but simply forbidding to let you fight without just cause isn't one of them They didn't hire him to stand around snacking from the office fridge But if they have a fighter in Mikey who they have invested time and money in, wants to leave at the end of his contract, what would you as top rank do? Try and talk him out of It? If he stil says no then top rank probably decided to screw around with his career. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android