Virgil Hunter is A Piece Of Shi*

All one gotta do is look at the skin colors. Had Angulo been Andre Ward.... well, we know the fight wouldn't had gone on. This is a reminder of how dumb some people here truly are. Trainers can't stop boxers from fighting idiot. That's the job of the commission and the Doctor's working together.

and the next fight at 160 against De La Rosa. Some fighters will push on anyway, there's no changing their mind. angulo shouldve have retired a while back, ah well Or maybe Hunter wanted the money too and since Angulo isn't a "brother" the hell with it he said. wait...what? hunters supposed to be a racist now? he probably did want the money, same way dundee bleed Ali dry and didn't refuse to train him for the Holmes fight..was he racist too? where the hell has this come from lol

I knew immediately that Anuglo had nothing that night, yet all these Canelo stans were telling me I was hating on him and that was a 'brilliant performance' by Cinna-Buns.

Don't get the hate for Virgil one of the best trainers IMO and gives some of the best interviews. Saw this video last night , Suprised Virgil was so open about that fight I liked it though you rarely hear trainers or fighters be this honest wish it happend more, Basically saying what everyone already knew who watched that fight. Angulo has looked like f.u.cking garbage since he lost to Lara probably for a variety of reasons.

I don't like Hunter, looks like an undercover sex pest but you can't blame him for this. ANgulo made up his own mind, wanted that money and that fight. In all honesty, Angulo was just as slow in the Lara fight. and the next fight at 160 against De La Rosa. Some fighters will push on anyway, there's no changing their mind.

It should have been clear enough I meant moving down a full division. Everyone is aware he moved down (Dawson did ask for a catch weight once they were negotiating however it was rejected by Ward). There is an advantage to moving fully down though, and that is had dawson won, he would be the legit undisputed champ, and enough to call lineal IMO because although calzaghe was undefeated and Roy before, Ward won the tournament so hes lineal IMO. Dawson took more risk but had more to gain. No matter who won at say 172, they are the winner of a catchweight fight, just as Cotto is supposed to be the lineal middleweight champion but its complete BS and will always have an * next to it because he refuses to fight or defend at 160. Same as if Ward went to 175, hes taking more risk but for more reward, because he would hold the lineal light heavyweight title and addition to being the lineal super middleweight, which is huge legacy wise but as it is, all he has is another defense of the 168 title in his win over Dawson.

I don't like Hunter, looks like an undercover sex pest but you can't blame him for this. ANgulo made up his own mind, wanted that money and that fight. In all honesty, Angulo was just as slow in the Lara fight. Or maybe Hunter wanted the money too and since Angulo isn't a "brother" the hell with it he said.

All one gotta do is look at the skin colors. Had Angulo been Andre Ward.... well, we know the fight wouldn't had gone on. I didnt want to go thier but I knew this was teh case.

You gonna cry? How ironic you crying about health when u mtfers support magarito. At least he wasnt hit with bricks.....

I don't like Hunter, looks like an undercover sex pest but you can't blame him for this. ANgulo made up his own mind, wanted that money and that fight. In all honesty, Angulo was just as slow in the Lara fight.

i mean thats boxing the part we dont see we just take for granted what these fighters go thru sometimes to make weight. its not like this is uncommon if trainers didnt let their fighters fight every time they went thru hell to make weight we wouldnt have hardly any fights. its just another thing we as boxing fans take for granted that we dont fully understand. for instance a boxer does everything he can to make weight doesnt and without knowing we instantly call the fight un professional or lazy or fat whatever it may be. we dont seem to care what that fighter might have to or had already gone thru to make weight. just crazy the stuff the fans dont see i mean when a guy looks like hes about to die weighing in its prob because they are literally close to death in some ways Interesting perspective. Well said indeed.

Virgil has always struck me as a creep. What a piece of ****, the way he talks about him... Shady backstabbing gossipy son of a *****.

he said angulo was a dead man for the canelo fight that he was passing out right up to the fight, yet he let the fight go on and didnt even stop it just let him get beat up. I cant stand Piece of shit trainers like this. Just think about it this way what if angulo ended up like magomed (which could have been the case) how would you guys feels about him still letting the fight go on. All one gotta do is look at the skin colors. Had Angulo been Andre Ward.... well, we know the fight wouldn't had gone on.

It's well known that angulo was dead at the weight for the canelo fight, but am sure angulo and his trainer both already had an understanding about how the fight would go. We don't know so it would be difficult to critise just the trainer for letting the fight continuing after knowing that angulo was suffering from weight problems. i mean thats boxing the part we dont see we just take for granted what these fighters go thru sometimes to make weight. its not like this is uncommon if trainers didnt let their fighters fight every time they went thru hell to make weight we wouldnt have hardly any fights. its just another thing we as boxing fans take for granted that we dont fully understand. for instance a boxer does everything he can to make weight doesnt and without knowing we instantly call the fight un professional or lazy or fat whatever it may be. we dont seem to care what that fighter might have to or had already gone thru to make weight. just crazy the stuff the fans dont see i mean when a guy looks like hes about to die weighing in its prob because they are literally close to death in some ways

Trainers actually work for the fighters, not the other way around. Look at the insight John Scully proved us in regards to how much against the catchweight he was for Dawson against Ward and how he knew Dawson was not fit to fight and wanted the fight to be cancelled but couldn't do anything about it because a). he's not the fighters manager b). he's not the fighters promoter c). he's not the fighters boss. This is the reality unless it's some young kid. In a perfect world you would want the fighter and trainer to have a mutual respect and that the fighter should listen to his coach at all times, but these are all grown men and they make their own decisions. Dawson - Ward was not a catchweight fight. It was at 168. They were both champions, Dawson moved down. The upside to that for Dawson is that he would be the undisputed 168 pound champ had he won. That is what is in it for Dawson to move down, if he fought at 175 and won, it would just be a title defense for him. Agree with all of the other stuff though.

Well hunter said he passed out the day before the fight... maybe they went to see a doctor to make sure that he can fight the next day & gave them the go ahead. :dunno: There is a pre fight questionnaire, remember the one Pacquiao said he shoulder was fine on? They probably said "no" to having any known medical problems.

Oh jeez I forgot for a second that Angulo was a grown ass man responsible for his own decisions. He took a fight that he knew he could barely make the weight because it was the biggest offer money wise. Thats all Hunters fault.

Well hunter said he passed out the day before the fight... maybe they went to see a doctor to make sure that he can fight the next day & gave them the go ahead. :dunno:

You can't tell these guys not to get in the ring, they want that paycheck. Not that I'm a Virgil Hunter fan, but at the end of the day, this is the prize fighting business, you don't fight, you don't get paid.

Angulo looked "jorge kawhagi" slow in that fight. It was comical how incredibly slow he was against canelo.