The casual fans know what it's really about, they flick the channel, if it isn't going to entertain, they flick to the next. They wont waste their time or money on something that's boring.
While these Phony"hardcore boxing fans" have their heads so far up their a55e5, they act like their ***** don't stink out arenas.
These "Hardcore Fans" that don't stick up for the sport are to blame. We have "fans" bending over letting promoters/fighters take them for their money for stale fights.
Practically handing over their money, siding with the fighter's excuse for failing to entertain, and not sticking up for the boxing fans.
They keep lying to themselves, saying they don't get bored.
It's like they want people to know they enjoy watching paint dry, acting like there's some incredible stuff going on behind the scenes that will give them credibility.
When in reality, they're just sitting there, watching paint dry,wasting time, missing out on what the causals are doing, having fun .
You'll never catch the casual fan doing some dumb ***** like that, they're not that stupid.
Stop lying to yourself, all these fights fit within two extremes
(Boring--------------------watchable----------------------Entertaining)
Where only about 5% of Phony "Hardcore Fans" would say a boring fight entertained them for what ever reason the use to justify it.
Now because the fake fans are not looking for the viewers best interest in "pure entertainment", fights have tipped over to the Boring side because they let fighters get away with it.
These fighters are now using the excuse of not getting hit, even if it cost them the fight. Fights on the line, and they wait it out, if the opportunity doesn't come as a gift-box birthday present, they're ok with it, even if it means loosing the fight.
As a result there's no passion from these fighters. They just come and take the pay check, no entertainment, just a dry transaction, taking you for your money and time.
"It's like they want people to know they enjoy watching paint dry, acting like there's some incredible stuff going on behind the scenes that will give them credibility.
When in reality, they're just sitting there, watching paint dry,wasting time, missing out on what the casuals are doing, having fun ."
They don't want to own up to it. A boring fight is a boring fight no matter how technical it gets.
Let these FAKE "FANS" grasp for excuses on why they shouldn't want the most entertainment for their money, on a sport, which was made to entertain the fans.
it's painful to watch them suffer like that, like they're forcing a 16ft pole up their a55es, because doing so gives them credibility as a "Hardcore fan". This is just BS for fighters to cover up their lack of entertainment, and dumb fans to be taken for the least amount of work for their hard earned dollar
get with the program, grow a backbone and stick up for the fans best interest, NOT THE PROMOTERS/FIGHTERS.
that is
Most entertainment for your dollar/time. Worry about the fans,
I don't want that at all, why should he, he's the best and it works. But what I don't want is to hear him and his fans complain when people say he's boring. Playing it safe to win, while successful, is Not entertaining. That's not to say he's never entertaining but over the last decade there's been more snoozers than classics.
Exactly. That's what I meant by "Well you know he fight that way doe"
What double standard? if Canelo was beating Floyd, and Floyd kept boxing, I'd be saying it's on Floyd to change his style and go balls out to try and get the KO he needs to win. If he didn't, he deserved to lose.
Because Floyd wins and posters do not like that, they complain about "entertainment value" as code for what they really want- Floyd to fight recklessly so the other guy has a chance to win.
I don't want that at all, why should he, he's the best and it works. But what I don't want is to hear him and his fans complain when people say he's boring. Playing it safe to win, while successful, is Not entertaining. That's not to say he's never entertaining but over the last decade there's been more snoozers than classics.
Not true, my girl thought the Loma fight May 2nd was the best fight of the night. People like to see punches being thrown not someone trying to calculate when they should throw their jab.
its very true i love lomenchenko love watching him fight but most casuals think he is boring ya maybe a fight where his opponent was over matched but overall he fights like an amateur people dont appreciate what they are watching only hardcore fans can appreciate a technical fighter and dont be so quick to say its boring for everyone its not that our **** dont stink its that we actually enjoy technical fighters i dont see why thats such a big deal like so hard to believe
LOL you see the double standards doe?
What double standard? if Canelo was beating Floyd, and Floyd kept boxing, I'd be saying it's on Floyd to change his style and go balls out to try and get the KO he needs to win. If he didn't, he deserved to lose.
Because Floyd wins and posters do not like that, they complain about "entertainment value" as code for what they really want- Floyd to fight recklessly so the other guy has a chance to win.
Hey man, don't get mad if fighters are not good enough to make Floyd fight differently. Maybe they should do more work, develop more skills.
LOL you see the double standards doe?
"You know he don't fight that way doe"- Every Flowmo ever :lol1:
Hey man, don't get mad if fighters are not good enough to make Floyd fight differently. Maybe they should do more work, develop more skills.
No it isn't. He couldn't outbox Floyd so if he wanted to win he had no choice other than to turn Margs.
Unless you are suggesting Floyd turn Margs and make it easy for Canelo to win.
"You know he don't fight that way doe"- Every Flowmo ever :lol1:
Yeah tmt fans are deep thoaters. On call and not even on the pay roll. Got one peen in their mouth and 2 other peens in each hand with knee pads on.
No matter what they defend. I never seen a tmt fan say man i cant support that. Or man i wanna see my fighter fight so and so as well.
seriously bro do you ever say anything that is not gay or mayweather related? for god sake say something constructive for once
Maybe he would have, but it something he was not capable of doing especially at 152 (Bullsh1t). Its like asking a point guard to start posting up on the center and driving it in lol
No it isn't. He couldn't outbox Floyd so if he wanted to win he had no choice other than to turn Margs.
Unless you are suggesting Floyd turn Margs and make it easy for Canelo to win.
Had he took Duva's advise, he almost surely survives and wins. Instead of being the 1st guy to beat the great Chavez sr, he became an almost forgotten figure.
That is why I don't think you risk going for the KO.
I understand your point but "Turning Margs" gave him the best chance to win. Its as if he just took the fight for the check.
Maybe he would have, but it something he was not capable of doing especially at 152 (Bullsh1t). Its like asking a point guard to start posting up on the center and driving it in lol
I enjoy every style of boxing. I don't care if you're a brawler or a boxer. Rigo is one of my favorites and many here think he's boring. The only thing I ask is for fighters to fight someone on their level. Unless you're being avoided like GGG, there's no excuse to fight the Bertos of this world after easily beating the Pacquioa.
He fought that way the whole fight. Did you expect him to box (run) the last two rounds? He was still getting his ass kicked. And Chavez ruined him for life.
As for Canelo, he's not a pressure fighter. It's retarded to see you and all the other haters post and talk about "style". "You know Floyd fight that way, Manny made it boring" :pat:
So Canelo is NOT a presssure fighter, he was never going to beat Floyd that night with the style he fights in. Was he supposed to turn into Margarito and pressure Floyd relentlessly? (something he's never done before)
Had he took Duva's advice, he almost surely survives and wins. Instead of being the 1st guy to beat the great Chavez sr, he became an almost forgotten figure.
That is why I don't think you risk going for the KO.
I understand your point but "Turning Margs" gave him the best chance to win. Its as if he just took the fight for the check.
They're not hated. Here's what I don't understand. Why you and your gang of ghouls keep ramming it down everyone's throat that using skills and playing it safe to win is somehow entertaining. I understand it guarantees a win, so why take a chance when the fight is in the bag but, it's not entertaining and you guys keep suggesting it is. It's like a team being up 13-0 and then running on every down and punting. In no realm is that entertaining, stop pretending otherwise.
Gang of Ghouls. LMFAO!!
If the guy losing will not "risk winning", why should the guy winning "risk losing"?
As for entertaining, the only time I am not entertained in a fight is when one or both guys doesn't do what it takes to win. I have never seen a boring fight where the guy losing goes balls out to win.
Had taylor fought the 11th and 12th smarter, he walks away with the victory. You saw it otherwise, fine. But chavez sr. was trailing on all cards. Taylor also may have still had a career left had he fought smarter.
As for Canelo, you got my point.
He fought that way the whole fight. Did you expect him to box (run) the last two rounds? He was still getting his ass kicked. And Chavez ruined him for life.
As for Canelo, he's not a pressure fighter. It's retarded to see you and all the other haters post and talk about "style". "You know Floyd fight that way, Manny made it boring" :pat:
So Canelo is NOT a presssure fighter, he was never going to beat Floyd that night with the style he fights in. Was he supposed to turn into Margarito and pressure Floyd relentlessly? (something he's never done before)
You are really overexaggerating the point being made to you.
Casual fans only like the violence of boxing, they do not care about any technical skill. Same way casual hoops fans love the dunk contest but would never watch a Spurs game or watch a game with Vince Carter playing instead of 2 great teams because Vince might unleash a double 360 tomahawk dunk.
We all love a Matthysse/Provodnikov or Gatti/Ward. But that doesn't mean we all want to see 2 bums bang it out on BKB.
What we cant understand is why boxing skills are so hated by "boxing" fans.
Maybe you and others are not so much "boxing" fans but "fighting" or "violence" fans. Nothing wrong with that.
They're not hated. Here's what I don't understand. Why you and your gang of ghouls keep ramming it down everyone's throat that using skills and playing it safe to win is somehow entertaining. I understand it guarantees a win, so why take a chance when the fight is in the bag but, it's not entertaining and you guys keep suggesting it is. It's like a team being up 13-0 and then running on every down and punting. In no realm is that entertaining, stop pretending otherwise.
You're the only one that gets it.
These "Hardcore Fans" don't want to face the truth, it's painful to see them suffer like this.
Just look at the first page, they go on justifying their pain, calling anyone who enjoys a entertaining fight a "casual".
You are really overexaggerating the point being made to you.
Casual fans only like the violence of boxing, they do not care about any technical skill. Same way casual hoops fans love the dunk contest but would never watch a Spurs game or watch a game with Vince Carter playing instead of 2 great teams because Vince might unleash a double 360 tomahawk dunk.
We all love a Matthysse/Provodnikov or Gatti/Ward. But that doesn't mean we all want to see 2 bums bang it out on BKB.
What we cant understand is why boxing skills are so hated by "boxing" fans.
Maybe you and others are not so much "boxing" fans but "fighting" or "violence" fans. Nothing wrong with that.
What was that exactly? Get his ass kicked? Are are you one of the delusional fanboys who thinks Taylor was winning easily and got robbed? I seen Taylor get his ass kicked for 12 rounds while getting some good shots in and the commentators swore it was a schooling by Taylor :pat: The Aftermath tells a different story.
Had taylor fought the 11th and 12th smarter, he walks away with the victory. You saw it otherwise, fine. But chavez sr. was trailing on all cards. Taylor also may have still had a career left had he fought smarter.
As for Canelo, you got my point.
Whenever someone says they're a "hardcore fan" I picture:
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/c/cb/Comicbookguy.gif/revision/latest?cb=20120624090208
Sometimes we take weird internet norms for granted. Imagine a guy in real life, on an elevator or at a bar or something getting all pissed telling you how he obsessively savors and rewatches the most boring sports events he can find on purpose to prove he's a hardcore, not a casual!
You're the only one that gets it.
These "Hardcore Fans" don't want to face the truth, it's painful to see them suffer like this.
Just look at the first page, they go on justifying their pain, calling anyone who enjoys a entertaining fight a "casual".
Talk to your boy Canelo and ask him why he didn't press harder and try to win. Oh, yeah It's Bardock. in your mind Floyd should've done what Meldrick Taylor did.
What was that exactly? Get his ass kicked? Are are you one of the delusional fanboys who thinks Taylor was winning easily and got robbed? I seen Taylor get his ass kicked for 12 rounds while getting some good shots in and the commentators swore it was a schooling by Taylor :pat: The Aftermath tells a different story.
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