Bradley just out worked and out strengthed Vargas, Bradley at times showed he could also move and jab, which is how he won the JMM fight by such wide margins in the eyes of most. Out of all the welterweights not named May or Pac, he is probably the most versatile of the remaining guys. Without a doubt the most accomplished too.
So, if you have the two leading welterweights, shouldn't they be fighting? Forget Brook and Khan (Thurman isn't even an after thought lol). It's not just Bradley's career but also the fact that he always maintains his hunger and will not try and coast to a pay day or try and survive. Bradley can look at 5 million dollars in his bank account and still fight like a starving man.
This is the must fight in the division.
Why is Thurman v Mayweather more exciting? Was the bundu fight exciting? Or Guerrero? Thurman, when his power doesn't work often looks lost. What does he bring to the table that several similar "young lions" haven't brought before? Heck, even Ortiz back in 2011 or when ever it was, seemed like a better opponent coming off a war against Berto. Plus, why would I want a less deserving fighter to get the shot? Someone who is not at all proven on the world level. That's not what I want from boxing. Isn't sport supposed to be the best v the best?
Keeping that in mind - Bradley, Brook and Khan are all superior fights, in fact, even a Cotto rematch at 160 or Canelo at 154 would be better than Thurman at this stage.
The Guerrero fight was exciting yes, saved Al Haymon's PBC opening night. The Bundu fight was the exception, not the rule.
Why is Brook a better fight than Thurman? Why is Khan? Thurman has a better WW record than both. I'm good with all those fights. Not particularly interested in Bradley but no one could complain based on his record, but it doesn't excite me, wouldn't stay up for it.
Why is Thurman v Mayweather more exciting? Was the bundu fight exciting? Or Guerrero? Thurman, when his power doesn't work often looks lost. What does he bring to the table that several similar "young lions" haven't brought before? Heck, even Ortiz back in 2011 or when ever it was, seemed like a better opponent coming off a war against Berto. Plus, why would I want a less deserving fighter to get the shot? Someone who is not at all proven on the world level. That's not what I want from boxing. Isn't sport supposed to be the best v the best?
Keeping that in mind - Bradley, Brook and Khan are all superior fights, in fact, even a Cotto rematch at 160 or Canelo at 154 would be better than Thurman at this stage.
Maybe get your head out of Larry's arse and enjoy the sun, it's a beautiful day.
Oh ok, so you can talk to others about their grammar but when someone calls out your pityful grammar it's not ok :lol1:
"I went to university, I don't make grammatical mistakes"
:lol1: :dunce:
I understand the principle, Bradley deserves it more etc.
But it's not an exciting match-up.
Why make Mayweather-Bradley when Mayweather-Thurman is more exciting and can be made more easily.
If we're going to pick a boxer to fight Floyd then Lara is a tougher opponent too.
I think it'll be Khan though, that's the way it's looking. Khan or Berto.
If Mayweather-Bradley was made no one could complain but can't say I'd stay up for it.
Why is Thurman v Mayweather more exciting? Was the bundu fight exciting? Or Guerrero? Thurman, when his power doesn't work often looks lost. What does he bring to the table that several similar "young lions" haven't brought before? Heck, even Ortiz back in 2011 or when ever it was, seemed like a better opponent coming off a war against Berto. Plus, why would I want a less deserving fighter to get the shot? Someone who is not at all proven on the world level. That's not what I want from boxing. Isn't sport supposed to be the best v the best?
Keeping that in mind - Bradley, Brook and Khan are all superior fights, in fact, even a Cotto rematch at 160 or Canelo at 154 would be better than Thurman at this stage.
"Obviously your dumb arse larry so you won't understand that"
Exquisite grammar there mate. That University that made you immune to grammatical errors has really worked wonders.
Maybe get your head out of Larry's arse and enjoy the sun, it's a beautiful day.
As of almost 18 months gao, when I predicted the May/Pac fight would happen in 2015, I said Pacquiao was no longer a legitimate threat to Mayweather, same way that Tyson was not a threat to Lewis, although Lewis actually wanted the fight.
Cotto was coming off of two of the worst beatings ever laid on a fighter.
Maidana looool A b level slugger giving Mayweather that type of bother was embarrassing for everyone involved.
Canelo, drained, green...no, not a threat. I'd call Hatton moving up in weight a bigger threat or DLH. That was 2007. 8 years since Mayweather has fought a threat.
Obviously your dumb arse larry so you won't understand that.
"Obviously your dumb arse larry so you won't understand that"
Exquisite grammar there mate. That University that made you immune to grammatical errors has really worked wonders.
I understand the principle, Bradley deserves it more etc.
But it's not an exciting match-up.
Why make Mayweather-Bradley when Mayweather-Thurman is more exciting and can be made more easily.
If we're going to pick a boxer to fight Floyd then Lara is a tougher opponent too.
I think it'll be Khan though, that's the way it's looking. Khan or Berto.
If Mayweather-Bradley was made no one could complain but can't say I'd stay up for it.
I would be OK with that match up! Always wanted to see Bradley get a shot at Mayweather
People talk about certain guys "deserving" the shot and there is no one who deserves it more than bradley.
Is this some type of bad joke?? He just fought Pacquiao,Maidana,Canelo,Cotto
are these not legitimate threats?
As of almost 18 months gao, when I predicted the May/Pac fight would happen in 2015, I said Pacquiao was no longer a legitimate threat to Mayweather, same way that Tyson was not a threat to Lewis, although Lewis actually wanted the fight.
Cotto was coming off of two of the worst beatings ever laid on a fighter.
Maidana looool A b level slugger giving Mayweather that type of bother was embarrassing for everyone involved.
Canelo, drained, green...no, not a threat. I'd call Hatton moving up in weight a bigger threat or DLH. That was 2007. 8 years since Mayweather has fought a threat.
Obviously your dumb arse larry so you won't understand that.
Not impressed.
Is this some type of bad joke?? He just fought Pacquiao,Maidana,Canelo,Cotto
are these not legitimate threats?
The Cotto win was a legacy win. The Canelo win was BS. Canelo was clearly drained. Floyd was as big as Canelo on fight night. Smh. The Pacquiao fight was a JOKE! Floyd's performance was cringe worthy. He didn't come to fight. He came to survive. The first Maidana fight was exciting. He got embarrassed and did a rematch to save face. He won it in unimpressive fashion. So, in conclusion, Floyd hasn't looked "great" since the Cotto fight. That's the way you're supposed to fight.
Can't quite remember the last time Floyd fought a legitimate threat. I'd be impressed if Floyd v Khan happens.
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Is this some type of bad joke?? He just fought Pacquiao,Maidana,Canelo,Cotto
are these not legitimate threats?
ah hell no. relax Bradley fought a guy with 10 KO's
Bradley's style and Mayweather's style will make it the most boring fight in the world.
Mayweather-Khan.
Bradley hasn't been in a boring fight for a while now.
Sounds like a good fight, would be a great opponent for a farewell fight and to go out on a high, Tim is a good name to have on your resume and it's probably a good style matchup for Floyd, so to Mayweather it would probably be the perfect choice.
It won't happen though because Bradley is with TR.
Thats the biggest issue
LOL @ Roy Jones being overrated. Hater logic. You probably think Ricardo Mayorga is HOF worthy. Roy Jones ruled boxing for majority of the 90s. De La Hoya was always #2 pound for pound to a PRIME Roy Jones. Don't forget that...# CHECK RING MAG RANKINGS THROUGHOUT ROY'S PRIME!
As for May-Pac:
Mayweather landed 81 power shots; Pac landed 63 power shots. Mayweather landed 148 punches; Pac 81.
How does the "cowardly runner" land more power punches than the guy you said won?
How does the "runner" land more overall punches? Please explain.
The Ring rankings are often laughable.
LOL @ Roy Jones being overrated. Hater logic. You probably think Ricardo Mayorga is HOF worthy. Roy Jones ruled boxing for majority of the 90s. De La Hoya was always #2 pound for pound to a PRIME Roy Jones. Don't forget that...# CHECK RING MAG RANKINGS THROUGHOUT ROY'S PRIME!
As for May-Pac:
Mayweather landed 81 power shots; Pac landed 63 power shots. Mayweather landed 148 punches; Pac 81.
How does the "cowardly runner" land more power punches than the guy you said won?
How does the "runner" land more overall punches? Please explain.
Just like i told you.
What he saw was Manny doing EVERYTHING better then Floyd that night, but didnt get the decision because of corruption.
I mean, is there anything left to say?
Roy Jones was overrated. That's why. And for you to argue that Chico isn't his best win, shows me your lack of boxing knowledge. Everyone knows and thinks that! And I never said Floyd was afraid of Bradley. I said Bradley comes to fight and Floyd doesn't like that. Therefore, Bradley will not be his farewell opponent. Floyd isn't a warrior, he's a COWARD. I bet you wanna argue that too? And Floyd did not out box Manny. What I did see though was how Manny out countered him. How Manny out defensed him. How Floyd couldn't stop his straight left. How Manny didn't fall for his set up right hand tricks. How many counter right hands did Floyd snap Manny's head back with? Exactly. Schooled much? A true Champion tries to close the show. A true Champion stands their ground. A true Champion has killer instinct and never fights to survive. Floyd fought like he knew he was going to win as long as he didn't get KO'ed. The truth is the truth.]
LOL @ Roy Jones being overrated. Hater logic. You probably think Ricardo Mayorga is HOF worthy. Roy Jones ruled boxing for majority of the 90s. De La Hoya was always #2 pound for pound to a PRIME Roy Jones. Don't forget that...# CHECK RING MAG RANKINGS THROUGHOUT ROY'S PRIME!
As for May-Pac:
Mayweather landed 81 power shots; Pac landed 63 power shots. Mayweather landed 148 punches; Pac 81.
How does the "cowardly runner" land more power punches than the guy you said won?
How does the "runner" land more overall punches? Please explain.
Fanboy!
What does having Roy Jones as my avatar have to do with you being a envious HATER?
His best win remains Chico? Explain yourself. Canelo Alvarez is a much more impressive feat than defeating Chico Corrales. Your logic is funny. I bet you hate on FACTS as hard as you hate on Floyd. SMH
Manny Pacquiao was outboxed and defeated on May 2nd by Floyd Mayweather. Those are the facts. Manny had his chance and BLEW IT... after years of smack talk. LOL
Roy Jones was overrated. That's why. And for you to argue that Chico isn't his best win, shows me your lack of boxing knowledge. Everyone knows and thinks that! And I never said Floyd was afraid of Bradley. I said Bradley comes to fight and Floyd doesn't like that. Therefore, Bradley will not be his farewell opponent. Floyd isn't a warrior, he's a COWARD. I bet you wanna argue that too? And Floyd did not out box Manny. What I did see though was how Manny out countered him. How Manny out defensed him. How Floyd couldn't stop his straight left. How Manny didn't fall for his set up right hand tricks. How many counter right hands did Floyd snap Manny's head back with? Exactly. Schooled much? A true Champion tries to close the show. A true Champion stands their ground. A true Champion has killer instinct and never fights to survive. Floyd fought like he knew he was going to win as long as he didn't get KO'ed. The truth is the truth.]
He will tell you that Floyd has paid off everyone his entire career.
You can only go so far with a conspiracy theorist.
If he believes the sport is that corrupt then why even watch? Makes no sense.
He sounds like a closeted Floyd fan that's afraid to come out so he picks on him like a 3rd grade school girl with a crush.
Says the guy who has Roy Jones as his Avatar. Shaking my head. Floyd is a coward and a paper champion and now the entire world knows it. His fighting style is cringe worthy and his defense is overrated as well. He's a HOF'mer but no ATG. His best win remains Chico. He doesn't have a prime win on his resume, which is full of B Level opponents. Why are you mad at me for telling the truth? You should be mad at the way your hero fights. He talks all that **** and doesn't fight like a true champion. And now no one wants to EVER see him fight again. So, You're the MAD one, kid. I just call it like I see it. And like Manny said, "he didn't do nothing." I wonder if Floyd still thinks Manny is on roids after being rocked. Hahaha!!!!!! He fought scared!
What does having Roy Jones as my avatar have to do with you being a envious HATER?
His best win remains Chico? Explain yourself. Canelo Alvarez is a much more impressive feat than defeating Chico Corrales. Your logic is funny. I bet you hate on FACTS as hard as you hate on Floyd. SMH
Manny Pacquiao was outboxed and defeated on May 2nd by Floyd Mayweather. Those are the facts. Manny had his chance and BLEW IT... after years of smack talk. LOL
I counted at least 10 excuses in your post. I bet you consider yourself "objective" towards Floyd, don't you? SMH
I brought Pac/Maidana in the discussion because you inferred that Floyd is afraid to fight Bradley because Bradley "comes to fight". Understand now?
You say Floyd was FORCED to fight Pacquiao and Maidana to avoid public humiliation. Yet, Floyd's record against them is 3-0. So much for only fighting them to avoid public humiliation.
Why you mad at Mayweather?
You should respect the hustle and the skill. He's consistently fought and OWNED every top dog in or near his division.
What other boxer can you say that about? He fights at the HIGHEST LEVEL the sport has to offer, and he keeps winning with his "gay style". If having elite defense, outstanding footwork, hall of fame stamina, uncanny offensive accuracy, etc... is GAY then why can't anyone conquer his "gay" style?
Shouldn't a "gay" style be WEAK? How are all these "alpha hetero male" boxers letting a "gay style" dominate them for almost two decades? How do you allow a "gay style" to earn the most money by any athlete in a calendar year?
Please explain.
He will tell you that Floyd has paid off everyone his entire career.
You can only go so far with a conspiracy theorist.
I'm confused by your response? Who is talking about Manny or Maidana? The only reason Floyd took the rematch with Maidana is because he was embarrassed in the first fight. He was FORCED to fight him again to avoid public humiliation. Manny won the fight despite the bogus views from judges, ref, and commentators. He deserves a rematch also. Do you think Floyd will fight him again? Because I don't. Take away Floyd's illegal tactics, Vegas, home judges, add a neutral ref, and a Manny with 2wo good hands, and he'd win AGAIN!
I counted at least 10 excuses in your post. I bet you consider yourself "objective" towards Floyd, don't you? SMH
I brought Pac/Maidana in the discussion because you inferred that Floyd is afraid to fight Bradley because Bradley "comes to fight". Understand now?
You say Floyd was FORCED to fight Pacquiao and Maidana to avoid public humiliation. Yet, Floyd's record against them is 3-0. So much for only fighting them to avoid public humiliation.
Why you mad at Mayweather?
You should respect the hustle and the skill. He's consistently fought and OWNED every top dog in or near his division.
What other boxer can you say that about? He fights at the HIGHEST LEVEL the sport has to offer, and he keeps winning with his "gay style". If having elite defense, outstanding footwork, hall of fame stamina, uncanny offensive accuracy, etc... is GAY then why can't anyone conquer his "gay" style?
Shouldn't a "gay" style be WEAK? How are all these "alpha hetero male" boxers letting a "gay style" dominate them for almost two decades? How do you allow a "gay style" to earn the most money by any athlete in a calendar year?
Please explain.
Funny.......
S8 HATER-NATION!
You're mad because Floyd won't put himself at risk in the fashion YOU want him to. You got the game messed up son.
Floyd did exactly what he was supposed to on May 2nd. Win the fight. PERIOD!
Whoever doesn't like that... has LOSER'S MENTALITY.
Says the guy who has Roy Jones as his Avatar. Shaking my head. Floyd is a coward and a paper champion and now the entire world knows it. His fighting style is cringe worthy and his defense is overrated as well. He's a HOF'mer but no ATG. His best win remains Chico. He doesn't have a prime win on his resume, which is full of B Level opponents. Why are you mad at me for telling the truth? You should be mad at the way your hero fights. He talks all that **** and doesn't fight like a true champion. And now no one wants to EVER see him fight again. So, You're the MAD one, kid. I just call it like I see it. And like Manny said, "he didn't do nothing." I wonder if Floyd still thinks Manny is on roids after being rocked. Hahaha!!!!!! He fought scared!