Andre ward is hands down p4p number 1 after sept

They shouldn't have stripped a prime champion of his ring title over injuries n promo issues Ward kicking everyone ass at 168 Dude is so skilled and talented This thread is whack Dyde has done squat since the tourney if it not black its whack to you racist dudes

Clearly he is. But its really "vacant" until somebody earns it.

Honestly GGG is Pound for Pound the best already. Ward really isn't up there yet never was. At best you can rank Ward at about 15. I mean Pound for Pound Kovalev, Rigo, Lomachenko, Mayweather, Pac-Man, GGG, and Roman Gonzales are better fighters. wtf?? how he has faced 0 current world champions and his best win is what Martin Murray?

He beat Paul Smith ffs. If/when he beats Kovalev we'll have this talk again. And probably only after Mayweather actually retires too.

Pound for pound is just personal opinion. It's how good you think a fighter is and has nothing to do with who that fighter beat or didn't beat. There are no wrong answers. If you think Ward is the best then Ward is the right answer for you. For me the dirty fighting, illegal holding and hitting, wrestling and clinching Ward is not in the top 10 pound for pound fighters in the world. I see too many other great fighters today who I think are better than Ward to give him a top 10 spot. He almost never fights and when he fights it's in Oakland where they let him break the rules and do what he wants. It's been a long time between fights for Ward and an even longer time since he fought a real good fighter.

I rather he prove it in the ring. Which he will. Boxing will be alright after Floyd and Manny are gone.

Not if he's gonna keep fighting the Paul Smiths of this world he's not. If that's the case then might as well make Golovkin number 1 P4P Why are folks on here so hell-bent on minimizing Paul Smith? Because Andre Ward fought him? Smith came into the fight after 24 tough rounds with WBO 168 champ Arthur Abraham (where a case can be made that he won the first fight). Prior to that, he'd won his prior four fights (against meh competition). George Groves and James Degale have proven themselves to be world-level fighters, so even those losses don't knock Smith off that much.

What's gonna happen in September? Ward has said he'll fight at HW, so I reckon that he'll fight Wladimir Klitschko in september so he can claim a top spot in the p4p rankings. I think thats the vision the TS has had while masturbating in his filth.

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I didn't say win after September, but I guarantee you he will fight some top opposition and beat them....he'll claim the spot before the end of next year I don't see GGG, Froch, Degale, or Groves beating him at 168 The guys with the best chance to beat Ward is at 175...that's Stevenson and Kovalev because they can actually hurt him and possibly keep him down. He has the skills to outbox all of them and I favor him to beat them all. Kov has the best chance because of his versatily, underrated skills and power. If they fight between now and next year, I pick Ward...he wont be drastically outsized, has the better defense, and underrated physical strength and will be faster of hand and foot...also he hasn't lost since he was he was 12, and is a student of the game I hope some of these fights get made in the near future

Anyone who thinks Ward is a better fight/better athlete than Floyd or Rigo is delusional...

I agree that Ward can be the 1 P4P fighter in the world, if he beats Kovalev at 175. Then beats Stevenson and fights GGG at 168. You were talking about September 2016 right.

What's gonna happen in September?

He just fought Super Rod Salka... what's the point of this thread, he hasn't been relevant since 2011. Go fight Killer Kov and any other killers

So we have a guy who hasn't fought an opponent with a pulse in nearly 4 years, returning to beat an untrained overweight no. 4 SMW in England, and he is supposed to be the second best fighter on the planet? Really? Only on NSB. Exactly. A bunch of knobs in this forum.

They shouldn't have stripped a prime champion of his ring title over injuries n promo issues Ward kicking everyone ass at 168 Dude is so skilled and talented These are exactly the reasons why fighters should get stripped. Inactivity and prolonged injury.

So we have a guy who hasn't fought an opponent with a pulse in nearly 4 years, returning to beat an untrained overweight no. 4 SMW in England, and he is supposed to be the second best fighter on the planet? Really? Only on NSB.

Honestly GGG is Pound for Pound the best already. Based on which of his wins? Murray? Geale? Those are names that put someone p4p #1? Put down the crack pipe dude.

Yup, stopping Paul Smith will do that to a career..........off like a rocket.

How can you guys call GGG a top p4p fighter if he hasnt even beaten a top fighter? Kovalev has beaten hopkins, floyd beat manny, rigo beat donaire. They all have atleast one big name on their resume wich GGG doesnt Don't take these guys serious!