Does Wladimir Klitschko entertain you?

He could only look for one power shot to end the fight and 80% of every round was him mauling Pulev like an animal. Why couldn't he out box Pulev instead of only relying on his power? Why are you complaining? He's a heavyweight. He's supposed to take out people in devastating fashion.

LOL well I'm biased so I mean I'm more involved because I'm a fan. He can clinch less but he's had exciting fights. Wladimir's performance against Pulev was great. Really?? I thought it was one of the most pathetic fights ive ever seen. There was no boxing out of Wlad. He could only look for one power shot to end the fight and 80% of every round was him mauling Pulev like an animal. Why couldn't he out box Pulev instead of only relying on his power? He cheated and fouled to set up a banger. The amount of fouls he committed in that fight was a disgrace. In one round he even went to hit Pulev with two hands at the same time. And that was not even his worst performance. The guy is a joke http://cdn2-www.******.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/gallery/wladimir-klitschko-vs-kubrat-pulev/wladimir-klitschko-vs-kubrat-pulev-07-photo-by-joern-pollex_bongarts-getty-images.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEVlQ66nlr8

Well, for a guy who is boring, he packs stadiums for almost every fight. :lol1: I've been to three Klitschko fights (one Vitali) and tickets were free for two of them.

It's the fact that we've seen him get knocked the **** out multiple times when he doesn't use illegal tactics, therefore the cheating is really infuriating, because that's what it is its cheating, its illegal tactics used every single round, pretty much every single exchange to get him to the final bell! It's absolutely pathetic.

Well, for a guy who is boring, he packs stadiums for almost every fight. :lol1:

No I don't, barring the odd performance like Wach and Pulev where he decided to throw hard, consistent, meaningful punches. There's just a totally lack of excitement or spontaneity about the guy. He never throws anything beyond the same three punches. I hate to bring up a cliché but it's like watching a robot fight. I don't mean in the way he moves, which is remarkably fluid for a big man, but in the fact that he only ever does the same thing over and over and over. Take him out of his comfort zone and his clinch reflex goes into overdrive. His refusal to abide by the rules coupled with his inability or unwillingness to fight on the inside or throw combinations more complex than a simple one two make his fights unbelievably tedious to watch. I actually prefer to watch John Ruiz fight. He at least worked in the clinch and wasn't afraid to mix it up when he had to.

Watching Wlad, I realize I Took Vitali for granted, that dude went on a run where he was absolutely destroying everyone. Wlad fits right in with the Lara's IMO, guys who have 0 care to please the crowd and have no ability to just turn it up on the drop of a dime and finish a fight when it should be finished. I'm done wasting my time with these guys.

I've followed and been a fan of Wladimir Klitschko's for the last about 10 or so years. He caught my attention when he dismantled Chris Byrd for the IBF title; it was a dominant performance and brutal KO. Based on that fight, I thought that his subsequent fights would be entertaining and we'd see the highlight reel KOs. Well, that notion never really came to fruition. Wlad has got some highlight reel KOs but the fights themselves have been lackluster. Some of the criticism is justly because of his style; the grab and clinch defense is boring as f*ck and his refusal to throw body punches has contributed to that boring style. If Wlad went to the body more, he would be able to really put a hurten' on some of his opponents and score an emphatic KO. Having said all this, Wlad has given HW boxing fans some certainty, stability and predictability. What I mean is: he's defended his tile year-in and year-out and there's no confusion on who the real champion is in the hw division. I can't stand when there's all these f*ckin' titles floating around and guys winning them and then losing them and there's no clarity in who's the real champ. In the late 90s we had Ruiz, Brewster, Holyfield, Bryd, Rahman, (Vitali) Klitschko all claiming fame to the HW title. These guys won titles, lost titles, regained titles and it was a merry-go-round of mediocrity. With Wladimir Klitschko you have certainty - the certainty that he'll be the HW champion next year and he'll defend his titles. That's the main reason why I admire and follow him. Back the thread question: is he entertaining? Well, at times he can be; but "NO" he not really that entertaining but he gives you certainty and reliability Respect and entertainment value are two different things. I agree with your post in many ways and three overall things I respect him a lot for are: 1) Cleaning up the division when, as you say, it was a complete mess. 2) Coming back from multiple hard defeats to be so dominant 3) Going on for so long and staying motivated for so many years despite the lack of challenges from time to time.

Yeah, I've admitted that Clinchko deserves this nickname but I'm the one who's in denial... "It was part of his defence, doe', "Porter's head, doe" :lol1: And no, you're not asking a simple question, you create a thread with an agenda and argue with people who don't agree with that agenda. "I actually like Wlad, doe" Very objective. I'm done here, have a nice Sunday. http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/ef1/b81/6c1/resized/success-kid-meme-generator-yes-i-won-0b2e63.jpg

He's a great finisher, no doubt, once he hurts his opponent. But after it became known that his chin wasn't all that great? Kronk adjusted his style to limit the toe to toe exchanges. He then started the excessive holding and grabbing if his opponent got by the telephone pole jab. You can't blame that fight on Povetkin. Every time he tried to come in and fight, Wlad was climbing his back.

Haha, I'm like a broken record? :lol1: If you don't know the difference then there's no point in explaining it to you because you would be in denial anyway. Part of his style? What to cheat? Nice excuse. "Oh well, it's part of his style so it's ok" I'm asking a simple question, does he entertain you? Is it entertaining to watch someone fight after fight clinch more than land punches? Brook beat Gavin up with boxing. He wasn't leaning all over him and clinch him to death. Don't even mention it. Yeah, I've admitted that Clinchko deserves this nickname but I'm the one who's in denial... "It was part of his defence, doe', "Porter's head, doe" :lol1: And no, you're not asking a simple question, you create a thread with an agenda and argue with people who don't agree with that agenda. "I actually like Wlad, doe" Very objective. I'm done here, have a nice Sunday.

Jesus Christ man, you're like a broken record. 'They both clinch, but my guy is excused because he uses it as his defence'. Defence, offence - who cares? Clinching is clinching, it's awful to watch innit? Yes, Klitschko does clinch, it's a part of his style. It is what it is. That's what you wanted to hear? Also, Brook carried Gavin, he could've pulled the trigger much earlier if he wanted to, but he chose not to. Sounds familiar? You're a fan of a boring fighter. Don't hate it, embrace it. Haha, I'm like a broken record? :lol1: If you don't know the difference then there's no point in explaining it to you because you would be in denial anyway. Part of his style? What to cheat? Nice excuse. "Oh well, it's part of his style so it's ok" I'm asking a simple question, does he entertain you? Is it entertaining to watch someone fight after fight clinch more than land punches? Brook beat Gavin up with boxing. He wasn't leaning all over him and clinch him to death. Don't even mention it.

I've followed and been a fan of Wladimir Klitschko's for the last about 10 or so years. He caught my attention when he dismantled Chris Byrd for the IBF title; it was a dominant performance and brutal KO. Based on that fight, I thought that his subsequent fights would be entertaining and we'd see the highlight reel KOs. Well, that notion never really came to fruition. Wlad has got some highlight reel KOs but the fights themselves have been lackluster. Some of the criticism is justly because of his style; the grab and clinch defense is boring as f*ck and his refusal to throw body punches has contributed to that boring style. If Wlad went to the body more, he would be able to really put a hurten' on some of his opponents and score an emphatic KO. Having said all this, Wlad has given HW boxing fans some certainty, stability and predictability. What I mean is: he's defended his tile year-in and year-out and there's no confusion on who the real champion is in the hw division. I can't stand when there's all these f*ckin' titles floating around and guys winning them and then losing them and there's no clarity in who's the real champ. In the late 90s we had Ruiz, Brewster, Holyfield, Bryd, Rahman, (Vitali) Klitschko all claiming fame to the HW title. These guys won titles, lost titles, regained titles and it was a merry-go-round of mediocrity. With Wladimir Klitschko you have certainty - the certainty that he'll be the HW champion next year and he'll defend his titles. That's the main reason why I admire and follow him. Back the thread question: is he entertaining? Well, at times he can be; but "NO" he not really that entertaining but he gives you certainty and reliability

No he didn't at all. All you saw was the clinching - which by the way was the only fight ever where Brook has ever clinched in a fight. He used it as a form of defense for when Porter was rushing in, head first. Klitschko uses clinching/leaning/holding as a form of attack - in every fight. There's a big big difference. There's a reason the jab-right clinch is known today. It's because of Klitschko. jab jab grab. Granted, against Povetkin it was grab grab grab. I don't have to use that fight. Show me one fight other than Wach where he didn't have ridiculous size advantage where Klitschko didn't initiate 10 clinches a round. I'd like to see it. I'll wait. Jesus Christ man, you're like a broken record. 'They both clinch, but my guy is excused because he uses it as his defence'. Defence, offence - who cares? Clinching is clinching, it's awful to watch innit? Yes, Klitschko does clinch, it's a part of his style. It is what it is. That's what you wanted to hear? Also, Brook carried Gavin, he could've pulled the trigger much earlier if he wanted to, but he chose not to. Sounds familiar? You're a fan of a boring fighter. Don't hate it, embrace it.

I dont find him that entertaining he fights abit like a fencer but i respect his skills and acknowledge him as one of the best heavyweights ever

LacedUp gets owned :rofl: In what world did I get "owned"? Certainly not this one.

Mate, I hate to break the news to you, but in his biggest fight Kell Brook fought very much like Wladimir Klitschko does. And I'm not saying they fight the same way, but the fact is that against Porter he pulled a Klitschko. So when you create a thread 'Does Wladimir Klitschko entertain you?' and use Klitschko's absoulte worst fight as his highlights I point out your hypocrisy. As for the date thing, you're right, my bad. LacedUp gets owned :rofl:

Mate, I hate to break the news to you, but in his biggest fight Kell Brook fought very much like Wladimir Klitschko does. And I'm not saying they fight the same way, but the fact is that against Porter he pulled a Klitschko. So when you create a thread 'Does Wladimir Klitschko entertain you?' and use Klitschko's absoulte worst fight as his highlights I point out your hypocrisy. As for the date thing, you're right, my bad. No he didn't at all. All you saw was the clinching - which by the way was the only fight ever where Brook has ever clinched in a fight. He used it as a form of defense for when Porter was rushing in, head first. Klitschko uses clinching/leaning/holding as a form of attack - in every fight. There's a big big difference. There's a reason the jab-right clinch is known today. It's because of Klitschko. jab jab grab. Granted, against Povetkin it was grab grab grab. I don't have to use that fight. Show me one fight other than Wach where he didn't have ridiculous size advantage where Klitschko didn't initiate 10 clinches a round. I'd like to see it. I'll wait.

Mate, I'd hate to say you don't know shit about boxing. But if you're trying to tell me Brook and Wladimir fights ANYWHERE near the same way, I might have to. And btw, this tread isn't made today. Mate, I hate to break the news to you, but in his biggest fight Kell Brook fought very much like Wladimir Klitschko does. And I'm not saying they fight the same way, but the fact is that against Porter he pulled a Klitschko. So when you create a thread 'Does Wladimir Klitschko entertain you?' and use Klitschko's absoulte worst fight as his highlights I point out your hypocrisy. As for the date thing, you're right, my bad.

TS is one of those people. Love how he created Wladimir Klitschko bashing and Kell Brook praising threads within 24 hours :lol1: Mate, I'd hate to say you don't know shit about boxing. But if you're trying to tell me Brook and Wladimir fights ANYWHERE near the same way, I might have to. And btw, this tread isn't made today.